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Woj on during the half saying the Heat are now in on Gallinari. Wow.

Riley doesn't screw around. If they grab Gallo in addition to Iguodala -though its unclear what he has left - they look much tougher on paper. Their length and defense lets them match up with any of the other Easter teams pretty well.
 

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Miami was already a team nobody would want to play in the first round. Iggy is a nice addition, as is Crowder, who is still a serviceable wing whose toughness will fit right in. If they add Gallo, they're going to be a real tough out this May.

Woj just confirmed Winslow is going to Memphis, which seems like a nice buy low on a talented player given that Iguodala was never going to play for them. I like this deal for both teams. Curious what other pieces are changing hands, and how this deal could expand to include Gallinari.
 

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That is a huge deal. Covington is actually a great get for Houston. Denver gets another shooter in Napier (Green is out for the season) while Atlanta gets Capela as part of their young core. The Wolves get some decent pieces to keep or flip and maybe they can staple ATL's Nets pick to Wiggins for D Lo.
I like the Timberwolves' haul for what is effectively an expiring Covington (there's no way he doesn't opt-out in Minnesota).
 

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What the heck is Miami trading away for these guys?

They can't trade a first round pick til 2025. They don't even have a second round pick til 2022.

They sending Nunn for one guy and Herro for the other with expiring contracts? Or is OKC high on Winslow?

Edit: I guess Memphis is high on Winslow
 

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I don’t understand that. Winslow isn’t a stud by any means but you’re really going all in for Iguodala?
 

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Possible three-way trade that works in the trade machine:

MIA gets Gallinari, Iguodala (MIA cannot take more salary than it sends out, GFIN)

MEM gets Winslow, Herro, Olynyk, Waiters

OKC gets Hill, Crowder, Okpala (OKC gets under the tax line and only takes on expiring contracts + Okpala)
 

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I am not sure I get the Iguodola love. He was a perfect fit in Golden State because of who they were. He is older and hasn't played in a year. I'm skeptical that he offers much
 

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That Iguodala extension is insanity. Paying a 38 year old $15 million? Memphis made out like absolute bandits.
 

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Miami also will have a lot of cap room to go after Giannis in 2021. Been rumors for the last year that Reilly thinks he can land him.
 

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Here's one key to getting this three-team deal done and Gallinari to Miami, league sources tell ESPN: Can OKC get Miami to lift the protections on a 2023 first-round pick the Heat owe the Thunder? The pick was originally protected in the top 14.
 

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Danny Green is basically better than Marcus Morris, especially when it comes to fitting in on a contending team. Morris is putting up good numbers on a garbage team. Green is a good defensive wing, a career 40% shooter from three, and has played in a billion big games. He is the exact kind of player a contending team should be trying to add, not get rid of.
 

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I figured Burks or GR3 would wind up in either Boston or Philly. But not both in one place. Good trade for the 76ers - they just improved their depth and distance shooting in one fell swoop. Meanwhile, Myers now has three more shots to mine the second round for gems.
 

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two pretty good shooters.
Two pretty good players — GR3 the better defender and shooter off the catch, Burks the better creator off the bounce. Kerr seemed super bummed to be letting them go (and said it was rough on the team too, which might explain their pathetic performance tonight, on top of the absence of two of their best and most veteran players).

Ah well... godspeed. Only gotta get through 30 games without them, and then they’re free agents again. I’d think they’d love to re-sign them in the off-season with the hard cap lifted, if the price is right.
 

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I loved the deal for Memphis when I first saw it, but now I'm not totally sold on tying up cap space next year with Johnson and Waiters at a time when lots of teams think they're contenders and might be able to pay high prices for dumping salary into cap room. Not the biggest deal though, and Winslow still has real upside--if they like him a lot, it's well-played.

Also, it's awesome to see the Lakers get shut out for Iggy.
 

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I liked it a few years ago when Houston rolled out a lineup of Harden-Gordon-Ariza-Mbah a Moute-Tucker against GSW, a bunch of guys between 6'5-6'9" that could switch onto anyone and also shoot. But that was specifically against GS, who killed teams who played traditional bigs because they would always switch them onto Curry and have no place to hide them when Draymond played the 5.

The problem is that the Warriors are not standing in Houston's way. The seven other WC playoff teams (Lakers, Clippers, Nuggets, Jazz, Mavs, Thunder, Memphis, as well as Portland if you wanted to include them) all play basically with a traditional five or a traditionally sized five, and on some of those teams like Lakers, Nuggets, Jazz and Mavs, that center is one of their most important players. Small ball is helpful but I don't know if it is the solution like it could have been against GS.
The thinking is that we want to be what the Warriors were and see if other teams can play their bigs against us. If Tucker is playing the 5 and we're playing the Lakers, is McGee going to guard Tucker when he's stationed at the corner for every possession? If yes, who is going to help at the rim when Harden/Westbrook drive?

Morey is going for it, given the strengths of Harden and Westbrook. We're going to get out rebounded but we're going to get enough open 3s and open lanes to drive. Let's see how it goes.
 

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Two pretty good players — GR3 the better defender and shooter off the catch, Burks the better creator off the bounce. Kerr seemed super bummed to be letting them go (and said it was rough on the team too, which might explain their pathetic performance tonight, on top of the absence of two of their best and most veteran players).

Ah well... godspeed. Only gotta get through 30 games without them, and then they’re free agents again. I’d think they’d love to re-sign them in the off-season with the hard cap lifted, if the price is right.
More on 76ers-Warriors trade, from Philly.com:

https://www.inquirer.com/sixers/philadelphia-sixers-nba-trade-deadline--20200206.html
 

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What's the final word on salaries Memphis is taking on? I love turning $17M of space into cost-controlled Winslow + premium GSW pick outside their title window. However, if they end up taking on both Johnson and Waiters, that kills their ability to do this exact type of space renting deal next year, when a lot of contenders will need a team with that kind of flexibility to facilitate upgrade trades in a weak UFA market.
 

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Was really hoping Celtics would get Burks. Praying Danny can get them some help off the bench to have a chance at the Bucks.
 

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No noise whatsoever around the Celts since the Capela trade went down.

With most of the Eastern contenders making moves this would appear to be a good time for Danny to make a move to improve this roster with so many young players and draft assets he could move?
 

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No noise whatsoever around the Celts since the Capela trade went down.

With most of the Eastern contenders making moves this would appear to be a good time for Danny to make a move to improve this roster with so many young players and draft assets he could move?
To channel my inner Princess Bride, it's inconceivable to me that Danny would stand pat, especially with the Sixers and Heat making moves to bolster their rosters. Maybe he wasn't interested in Burks or Robinson, but if that's the case, I hope he has a bigger deal in the works.
 

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To channel my inner Princess Bride, it's inconceivable to me that Danny would stand pat, especially with the Sixers and Heat making moves to bolster their rosters. Maybe he wasn't interested in Burks or Robinson, but if that's the case, I hope he has a bigger deal in the works.
Why would he have been interested in Burks or Robinson? They don't solve the shooting problem, and they're barely upgrades on Semi (better on offense, a lot worse on D), who's probably not even in the postseason rotation, barring injuries.

(To be clear, I think high-end shooting IS a problem for this team, but you don't solve that with 35-40% on low-volume guys. We already have plenty of those.)
 

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Why would he have been interested in Burks or Robinson? They don't solve the shooting problem, and they're barely upgrades on Semi (better on offense, a lot worse on D), who's probably not even in the postseason rotation, barring injuries.
They both are better shot creators than Semi and they are both better at higher volume.
 

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Why would he have been interested in Burks or Robinson? They don't solve the shooting problem, and they're barely upgrades on Semi (better on offense, a lot worse on D), who's probably not even in the postseason rotation, barring injuries.

(To be clear, I think high-end shooting IS a problem for this team, but you don't solve that with 35-40% on low-volume guys. We already have plenty of those.)
Burks averages 16.1 points per game and is shooting 38 percent from 3-point range (and 90 percent from the line). Not sure Semi could score 16 points in a week.

It would be great to acquire a pure shooter like Joe Harris, but somebody who can actually get buckets on the second team would be valuable too.
 

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Either is a better shot creator than Semi and they are both better at higher volume.
Yes, but the Celtics don't need mediocre shot creation on the 2nd unit. They will have Kemba, JT, Hayward, JB, and to some degree Smart creating shots in the playoffs. They need guys to knock down the shots that are created, and in that sense Burks isn't an upgrade.

Do you really want Burks taking away primary/secondary creation duties from one of the top 4/5 in the postseason?

I'm not trashing the dude, I think he's a perfectly cromulent player, but I don't see how Ainge not wanting him is hard to understand in the context of the strengths of this particular Celtics team.

Perhaps it's because they're verbally adjacent, but I think people are confusing bench "shot creation" (not a big need of this team) with bench "shooting" (a massive need of this team).
 

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Yes, but the Celtics don't need mediocre shot creation on the 2nd unit. They will have Kemba, JT, Hayward, JB, and to some degree Smart creating shots in the playoffs. They need guys to knock down the shots that are created, and in that sense Burks isn't an upgrade.

Do you really want Burks taking away primary/secondary creation duties from one of the top 4/5 in the postseason?

I'm not trashing the dude, I think he's a perfectly cromulent player, but I don't see how Ainge not wanting him is hard to understand in the context of the strengths of this particular Celtics team.

Perhaps it's because they're verbally adjacent, but I think people are confusing bench "shot creation" (not a big need of this team) with bench "shooting" (a massive need of this team).
I agree. We need someone who will embiggen the roster for the playoffs more then those two.
 

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Told Boston was in on Alec Burks and Glenn Robinson III, but Golden State would not take take any salary back. Boston wasn't willing to waive players who have guaranteed money extending into next season. Lack of roster spots is working against the Celtics a little right now.

They were definitely interested....C's have a Porier problem, annoying he's signed for another year.
 

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Told Boston was in on Alec Burks and Glenn Robinson III, but Golden State would not take take any salary back. Boston wasn't willing to waive players who have guaranteed money extending into next season. Lack of roster spots is working against the Celtics a little right now.

They were definitely interested....C's have a Porier problem, annoying he's signed for another year.
Yes, the salary cap appears to be an issue for Boston right now.
 

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Told Boston was in on Alec Burks and Glenn Robinson III, but Golden State would not take take any salary back. Boston wasn't willing to waive players who have guaranteed money extending into next season. Lack of roster spots is working against the Celtics a little right now.

They were definitely interested....C's have a Porier problem, annoying he's signed for another year.
Can someone educate me on why Poirier’s 2nd year wasn’t a team option? He really would have passed on NBA chance for that?
 

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Yes, the salary cap appears to be an issue for Boston right now.
Yeah, the luxury tax next year is a big factor. They can probably go 5-10M over, but I doubt they'll do much more than that. I still would like them to go after someone like Bjelica and then deal him as a mild asset in the summer.
 

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Miami won't have that much cap room left if the Heat extend Iguodala and Gallinari.
Yeah, it's an interesting situation. Iggy (by current reports) is a team option for 21-22, so probably they're trying to do something similar with Gallo. Probably the intent is to have good players plus big expirings next season in case someone is available, while being able to clear max room in 2021. They're on track right now: the only contracts/holds left then are Bam (15.3M), Butler (36M), Herro (4M), and Dunn+Robinson (2.1M each), and Okpala+Silva (1.8M each).

Some of that will get taken with draft picks and other contracts, but they're on track to clear about $60M that summer if they want. So they could conceivably give Gallinari a couple year extension and still be major players in FA in 2021.