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Greg29fan

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Fantastic game - I think OU is a little bit more talented but Self is a much better coach than Kruger is and that's what usually shows up at some point in college b'ball.
 

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The one one one man to man defense that was being played on Hield was as good as I've seen by a college player in a very long time. The kid stuck with him impressively, moved laterally beautifully and gave Hield as much trouble as he possibly could. That Hield was still amazingly productive in spite of this defense is incredible.
 

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Mid-major stuff, but La Tech lost at home last night to ODU, ending a 39 game home court winning streak, 2nd in the nation. Interestingly, the second longest streak now belongs to ODU, who has won 32 straight at home.
 

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There are no top teams this year. Insane number of losses by top-5 teams this year
 

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i dont know if it's parity, in the top ~20 teams are still going to be much better than the 13-16 seeds, so early games will probably be normal, but of those top 20 teams, the odds of any specific winning will be very low.
 

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i dont know if it's parity, in the top ~20 teams are still going to be much better than the 13-16 seeds, so early games will probably be normal, but of those top 20 teams, the odds of any specific winning will be very low.
Isn't that the very definition of parity? It isn't only the top 20 teams either. There isn't much separating those in the 40-50 range from entering the top 20.
 

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Opposite. Parity within the top 20 sure, but it's 20 out of 200.
 

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Opposite. Parity within the top 20 sure, but it's 20 out of 200.
I disagree. The college game is filled with teams even deeper than 40 who can and are winning against top 20 teams. Georgetown was a 105 last night beating Xavier. Tonight Michigan St lost to a barely 200 team. It's happening every night.
 

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I disagree. The college game is filled with teams even deeper than 40 who can and are winning against top 20 teams. Georgetown was a 105 last night beating Xavier. Tonight Michigan St lost to a barely 200 team. It's happening every night.
24 of the top 60 teams in the KenPom rankings are from outside the P5 conferences. The parity this year is really deep and one of the reasons why the NCAAs will be as unpredictable as ever.
 

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Duquense bball team stuck on highway for the past day, now walking to get food...dropped from an overpass.

 

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I might argue this is the least interesting, least talented and lowest quality top 25 that I can remember. I was listening to one of the Sirius radio sports stations and they had an hour where callers where asked to name three college basketball players not on their favorite teams. more than half failed. there are just not enough good players. and the coaching largely sucks. Teams like Maryland have great players thanks to UA and a garbage coach. Simmons goes to LSU to play for a bad coach. Most of the ones and does are not that great. and the migration of better coaches to the P5 conferences is just starting, so might take a while
 

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I might argue this is the least interesting, least talented and lowest quality top 25 that I can remember. I was listening to one of the Sirius radio sports stations and they had an hour where callers where asked to name three college basketball players not on their favorite teams. more than half failed. there are just not enough good players. and the coaching largely sucks. Teams like Maryland have great players thanks to UA and a garbage coach. Simmons goes to LSU to play for a bad coach. Most of the ones and does are not that great. and the migration of better coaches to the P5 conferences is just starting, so might take a while
There would be good players all the time if players simply stayed in college long enough.
 

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There would be good players all the time if players simply stayed in college long enough.
this is the problem, right? ESPN tried so hard to make Ben Simmons the next Durant. and his team is completely unwatchable. There are no good teams this year and no stars. so the only star is the tournament and this year, when Duke, Kentucky et al are long shots for the second weekend, its gonna be tough to garner interest. They'll need some real cinderella teams me thinks
 

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Look at the pre season all america team this year. it's nearly all upperclassmen. last year it was nearly all underclassmen. just one of those years.
 

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this is the problem, right? ESPN tried so hard to make Ben Simmons the next Durant. and his team is completely unwatchable. There are no good teams this year and no stars. so the only star is the tournament and this year, when Duke, Kentucky et al are long shots for the second weekend, its gonna be tough to garner interest. They'll need some real cinderella teams me thinks
If the season ended today, Kentucky and Duke are #4 or #5 seeds. So long shots for the second weekend? I don't think so. And who are "et al"? UNC? Kansas? 1 or 2 seeds. So if they don't make the second weekend, there sure are likely to be real cinderella teams.

The NCAA tournament does not need marquee teams to be the chalk to succeed.
 
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There would be good players all the time if players simply stayed in college long enough.
The game has changed. One and Done is the norm for the best prospects so they don't get to develop into elite college players and this has changed the college landscape. With the exception of Kentucky and a select few others the better college players are 3-4 year guys who play at mid-majors or spread out throughout the country creating this parity. Unless an NBA age restriction is established the reward of a college freshman taking 1st round money to get to that second contract sooner outweighs the risk of staying in college and possibly have your game overly scrutinized costing you millions.
 

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Jeff Borzello ‏@jeffborzello 11s12 seconds ago
Louisville press conference at 1:30 w/ Rick Pitino, school president and AD "to deliver an important message to the University Community."
Sounds like they are self-imposing a postseason ban which is a majorly tough break for Damion Lee and Trey Lewis who transferred there for an extra year to play in the tourney and had absolutely nothing to do with the hookers scandal.
 

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Always amazing how well Duke can run a clean ship and compete (and beat!) all these dirty programs year after year! Really admirable of K.
 

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Always amazing how well Duke can run a clean ship and compete (and beat!) all these dirty programs year after year! Really admirable of K.
Didn't Coach K ignore sexual assault allegations in the past year or two so he can win basketball games?
 

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If by "ignore" to "win games" you mean completely call attention to them by kicking one of his best players off the team for the first time in K's career?

Yeah, he totally ignored that and took the move that would serve to win more games.
 

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Okay i was wrong about the parity things. Top 15 teams lose every night to unranked teams.