NFL announces new punishments for games that are PPD for covid next season

[McBride11]

Did Dak have a HIPAA concern when his fractured ankle / leg were being discussed at length?

The NFLPA / NFL should have made it loss of game check, unless vaccinated. That would have helped to motivate some fringe players.

And imagine being a coach with the opportunity of a life time, deciding science doesn't matter, I'll get fired instead. Yikes

edit - not trying to pile on Dak just that these NFL players routinely have their medical issues discussed ad nauseum between games. Dak was a hero discussing his mental health issues honestly.

 

[Preacher]

That is not what HIPAA is dumbass.

God, that just annoys me.

Maybe Dak is a covered entity. I don’t know what these guys do in the off-season.

 

[Ed Hillel]

https://twitter.com/bease11/status/1418604233285308417?s=21
View: https://twitter.com/iam_jerryhughes/status/1418635470842515465?s=21


Beasley sure is a moron

 

[Mystic Merlin]

That minority/majority quip is something else.

 

[Ed Hillel]

That minority/majority quip is something else.

Holy shit, I glossed right over that. They’re gonna have to cut him.

View: https://twitter.com/bease11/status/1418626095818104839?s=21

 

[Van Everyman]

Lenny Dykstra has their backs:

View: https://twitter.com/lennydykstra/status/1418608710985740291?s=21

 

[McBride11]

Lenny Dykstra has their backs:

View: https://twitter.com/lennydykstra/status/1418608710985740291?s=21

Well if Lenny Dykstra has your back you clearly know you are on superior moral and ethical ground!

It is too bad Jules retired so he can't clap back at Beasley's 'best slot' comment

 

[Ed Hillel]

Cole is going to be forced out and will join Barstool.

 

[Mystic Merlin]

Let’s get a Carrabis/Cole Beasley/Trevor Bauer podcast going.

 

[BlackJack]

Maybe Dak is a covered entity. I don’t know what these guys do in the off-season.

I would love to hear Dak’s thoughts what accountability has to do with HIPAA.

 

[simplyeric]

Call it a tie. Or give each team a loss. It would mess with playoff scenarios and draft order a bit but would seem reasonably manageable.

You’d kindof have to give them both losses because a tie could actually benefit a team. If team x plays a full schedule and is 10-7-0, but team y has missed game called a tie and goes 10-6-1, team y might get the wildcard berth over team x.
Obviously that but if unfairness carries to a team that gets a win but doesn’t play (if team z was supposed to play y but y had to forfeit), but it would be more unfair for a team that screwed up (y) to get a benefit over a team that didn’t (x).

they should make ‘unplayed wins’ a negative in tie-breakers. Like if two teams are 11-6, but team z had a win by forfeit, should team x get the playoff spot because they actually had to play all of heir games?

 

[simplyeric]

For those suggesting that the "non offending team" get paid - where exactly is the money supposed to come from? You aren't going to fine the "offending team" so high that it would make up the amounts. Its simply lost revenue to everyone.

The owners. A week’s salary is ~3% of the annual revenue for the team I think. Since the owners can’t muster the courage to require vaccination, they should bear the burden of the economic setback rather than pass it on to vaccinated players who tried to do things right but it’s out fo their control.

 

[BlackJack]

You’d kindof have to give them both losses because a tie could actually benefit a team. If team x plays a full schedule and is 10-7-0, but team y has missed game called a tie and goes 10-6-1, team y might get the wildcard berth over team x.
Obviously that but if unfairness carries to a team that gets a win but doesn’t play (if team z was supposed to play y but y had to forfeit), but it would be more unfair for a team that screwed up (y) to get a benefit over a team that didn’t (x).

they should make ‘unplayed wins’ a negative in tie-breakers. Like if two teams are 11-6, but team z had a win by forfeit, should team x get the playoff spot because they actually had to play all of heir games?

Great point on tie vs loss.

And I’m completely on board with unplayed wins having less weight for tie breaking purposes.

 

[Garshaparra]

Holy shit, I glossed right over that. They’re gonna have to cut him.

View: https://twitter.com/bease11/status/1418626095818104839?s=21

"Yea cutting arguable the best slot in the league is wise. Especially when the slot is such a significant role in this offense."

The Bills are going to cut Tyreek Hill? Or, to not be quite so pedantic, the Bills are going to cut their best slot receiver, Isaiah McKenzie?

 

[Omar's Wacky Neighbor]

I would love to hear Dak’s thoughts what accountability has to do with HIPAA.

"Shut up, and takes snaps under center."

~FNC

 

[cornwalls@6]

Revenge is like serving cold cuts, indeed.

Which as we know, could cause dysentery in the ranks.

 

[Wingack]

OJ checks in with some thoughts.

View: https://twitter.com/therealoj32/status/1419029087478108160?s=21

 

[Ed Hillel]

“You don’t have the right to put someone else in physical jeopardy…”

But…otherwise I agree!

 

[loshjott]

Remarkable that the coaching and the training staffs are going to balk at this as a condition of employment. They are not represented by unions and organizations can pick and choose who they want and set conditions for hire and employment. Am I missing anything on this? It's not discrimination per se. Jobs at that level are few and far between.

Clemson will hire them.

 

[bigq]

Which as we know, could cause dysentery in the ranks.

Tying tongues and stomachs alike in knots.

 

[RedOctober3829]

1. Agent Drew Rosenhaus: “I had a client who knew there was interest out there but didn’t want to be vaccinated. He was dead-set against it. But teams ask about free-agents’ vaccination status. You know they want these guys to be vaccinated. So my guy went out and got vaccinated, and he got signed. But I have players adamant they won’t get the vaccine. They just don’t want to be told what to do. I think there will be players who decide they don’t want to play because of this issue.”

https://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2021/07/25/buffalo-cleveland-nfl-vaccines-fmia-peter-king/

 

[lexrageorge]

1. Agent Drew Rosenhaus: “I had a client who knew there was interest out there but didn’t want to be vaccinated. He was dead-set against it. But teams ask about free-agents’ vaccination status. You know they want these guys to be vaccinated. So my guy went out and got vaccinated, and he got signed. But I have players adamant they won’t get the vaccine. They just don’t want to be told what to do. I think there will be players who decide they don’t want to play because of this issue.”

https://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2021/07/25/buffalo-cleveland-nfl-vaccines-fmia-peter-king/

Good. Their decision will open up playing opportunities for more responsible individuals.

 

[johnmd20]

1. Agent Drew Rosenhaus: “I had a client who knew there was interest out there but didn’t want to be vaccinated. He was dead-set against it. But teams ask about free-agents’ vaccination status. You know they want these guys to be vaccinated. So my guy went out and got vaccinated, and he got signed. But I have players adamant they won’t get the vaccine. They just don’t want to be told what to do. I think there will be players who decide they don’t want to play because of this issue.”

https://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2021/07/25/buffalo-cleveland-nfl-vaccines-fmia-peter-king/

"they don't want to be told what to do."

They are football players who literally spend their entire playing careers being told what to do. And doing it.

 

[RedOctober3829]

"they don't want to be told what to do."

They are football players who literally spend their entire playing careers being told what to do. And doing it.

It's so ridiculous. These guys put substances in their body to help them train that they have no idea what the long-term effects are going to be. This whole vaccine thing has only highlighted how truly dumb our country is. Protecting one's self and family from a potentially deadly virus has turned into "I don't want to be told what to do". It's a joke.

 

[Kliq]

I wonder how these people who are applauding Hopkins for showing "true leadership" responded to the players taking a knee during the national anthem?

 

[Preacher]

"they don't want to be told what to do."

They are football players who literally spend their entire playing careers being told what to do. And doing it.

It’s like people in the military claiming they don’t want to get vaccinated because they don’t want to be told what to do.

 

[RedOctober3829]

View: https://twitter.com/Colts/status/1419675573987815426

 

[ifmanis5]

View: https://twitter.com/TomPelissero/status/1419688531623096320

NFL player vaccination update: 83.6% of players vaccinated overall (at least one shot) 10 clubs now have 90% or more of their players vaccinated

 

[johnmd20]

View: https://twitter.com/TomPelissero/status/1419688531623096320

NFL player vaccination update: 83.6% of players vaccinated overall (at least one shot) 10 clubs now have 90% or more of their players vaccinated

Damn. That's a pretty solid number overall.

 

[Marciano490]

View: https://twitter.com/TomPelissero/status/1419688531623096320

NFL player vaccination update: 83.6% of players vaccinated overall (at least one shot) 10 clubs now have 90% or more of their players vaccinated

I’m bad at math, but wouldn’t this mean that there are a couple clubs with pretty abysmal rates of team vaccination?

 

[luckiestman]

I’m bad at math, but wouldn’t this mean that there are a couple clubs with pretty abysmal rates of team vaccination?

It could mean that but it doesn't have to mean that (depending on your definition of abysmal). My quick calculation is the rest of the league is averaging 80% if you set the 10 good compliance teams at 90% and 78% if you set the 10 good teams at an average of 95%.

 

[JohnnyK]

Frank Reich is apparently fully vaccinated by the way, so that is a breakthrough case.

In other Colts news:
View: https://twitter.com/zkeefer/status/1419678764246708224


So there you have one team with an abysmal rate.

 

[8slim]

1. Agent Drew Rosenhaus: “I had a client who knew there was interest out there but didn’t want to be vaccinated. He was dead-set against it. But teams ask about free-agents’ vaccination status. You know they want these guys to be vaccinated. So my guy went out and got vaccinated, and he got signed. But I have players adamant they won’t get the vaccine. They just don’t want to be told what to do. I think there will be players who decide they don’t want to play because of this issue.”

https://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2021/07/25/buffalo-cleveland-nfl-vaccines-fmia-peter-king/

You know who else doesn’t like to be told what to do?

Children. Little fucking bratty children.

Which is what a goodly percentage of adult Americans are these days.

 

[Rico Guapo]

You know who else doesn’t like to be told what to do?

Children. Little fucking bratty children.

Which is what a goodly percentage of adult Americans are these days.

I'm going to say this as someone who has been vaccinated.

All of these COVID19 vaccines have only been approved under an EUA which is to say they have NOT undergone normal testing regimens. Furthermore the pharmaceutical companies are exempt from legal liability from any of the harm the vaccines may cause. People should be skeptical of the safety of these vaccines in light of these circumstances, and you really can't blame African Americans for being particularly hesitant as the Federal Government has a recorded history of abuse of said population.

 

[koufax32]

I'm going to say this as someone who has been vaccinated.

All of these COVID19 vaccines have only been approved under an EUA which is to say they have NOT undergone normal testing regimens. Furthermore the pharmaceutical companies are exempt from legal liability from any of the harm the vaccines may cause. People should be skeptical of the safety of these vaccines in light of these circumstances, and you really can't blame African Americans for being particularly hesitant as the Federal Government has a recorded history of abuse of said population.

Normal testing regimens you say?

 

[soxhop411]

Uh. What the fuck is wrong with TJ ward?!?!

Edit: good lord this dude tripled down (someone must have gotten to him because he deleted the below tweet
https://web.archive.org/web/20210728043537/https://twitter.com/BossWard43/status/1420229253367353346

Spoiler: Deleted tweet

 

[Rico Guapo]

Normal testing regimens you say?
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Normal vaccine testing tracks subjects for several years to determine what possible side effects may emerge before getting FDA approval. Yeah, they've administered almost 4 billion doses, that doesn't mean it's safe or you should take it, it just means they've got a few billion guinea pigs to live test their vaccines for a virus with a low case fatality rate particularly for those who are young or don't have comorbidities.

 

[soxhop411]

View: https://twitter.com/sharpfootball/status/1420235460312449029?s=21


Big brained TJ thinks smoking is what caused Ron Rivera to get this cancer.

Dude proved how much of a idiot he was as a player and that has not changed since he retired.

his take was so appalling that other players are dunking on him

View: https://twitter.com/damienwoody/status/1420234431479132163?s=21

 

[Pandemonium67]

"Except responsibility." Nicely said TJ.

 

[johnmd20]

That TJ Ward tweet really is shocking. I don't believe what I just read. You think you've seen it all and nothing can surprise you. And then you read about a former NFL player telling a coach to dig his own grave. Amazing.

Empathy is for bitches, I guess.

 

[lexrageorge]

Normal vaccine testing tracks subjects for several years to determine what possible side effects may emerge before getting FDA approval. Yeah, they've administered almost 4 billion doses, that doesn't mean it's safe or you should take it, it just means they've got a few billion guinea pigs to live test their vaccines for a virus with a low case fatality rate particularly for those who are young or don't have comorbidities.

Vaccine side effects appear in a matter of weeks in every single case.

If they don’t want to get the shot, there are plenty of other players that can take their place. Opens up more opportunities for UDFA’s.

 

[Average Reds]

Normal vaccine testing tracks subjects for several years to determine what possible side effects may emerge before getting FDA approval. Yeah, they've administered almost 4 billion doses, that doesn't mean it's safe or you should take it, it just means they've got a few billion guinea pigs to live test their vaccines for a virus with a low case fatality rate particularly for those who are young or don't have comorbidities.

You are welcome to believe what you want, but this is not the place for this kind of misinformation. So let's drop this.

Last warning.

 

[soxhop411]

That TJ Ward tweet really is shocking. I don't believe what I just read. You think you've seen it all and nothing can surprise you. And then you read about a former NFL player telling a coach to dig his own grave. Amazing.

Empathy is for bitches, I guess.

Yup. He is damn lucky he is a retired NFL player. Because I can’t think of any team that would not have cut his ass if he was currently to signed by a team.

 

[joe dokes]

Going after Rivera is especially appalling. While he certainly benefitted from being exalted by the football media, he seems to be universally liked, respected, etc.

 

[8slim]

I'm going to say this as someone who has been vaccinated.

All of these COVID19 vaccines have only been approved under an EUA which is to say they have NOT undergone normal testing regimens. Furthermore the pharmaceutical companies are exempt from legal liability from any of the harm the vaccines may cause. People should be skeptical of the safety of these vaccines in light of these circumstances, and you really can't blame African Americans for being particularly hesitant as the Federal Government has a recorded history of abuse of said population.

I was sympathetic to that POV... until I wasn't. Tens of millions of people have been vaccinated, its time to recognize that they are remarkably, miraculously safe.

 

[soxhop411]

View: https://twitter.com/BuffaloBills/status/1420432504293625858

seems weird that the Bills tweeted this out...

 

[Bowhemian]

Sure glad he's is "wearing" a mask.

 

[soxhop411]

The Bills thought process here confuses me... Did they think that by Tweeting out a Video of Beasley doubling down on his moronic stance would would put an end to the discussion?

 

[SocrManiac]

I'm so grateful for the flexibility of the German language. Nasenpimmler is the greatest word to have come out of the pandemic. Basically means "nose willy."

https://twitter.com/hashtag/Nasenpimmler

 

[54thMA]

It's so ridiculous. These guys put substances in their body to help them train that they have no idea what the long-term effects are going to be. This whole vaccine thing has only highlighted how truly dumb our country is. Protecting one's self and family from a potentially deadly virus has turned into "I don't want to be told what to do". It's a joke.

Every asshole I know who has not gotten vaccinated is saying the same thing "I'm not going to be told what to do".........nothing about side effects concerns, not being FDA approved, nothing, just not wanting to be told what to do.

And yes, the last two or so years have showed just how dumb our country/certain people can be.

It's beyond pathetic.