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luckiestman

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I'll leave it to @luckiestman to confirm, but it seems safe to assume that Zach Wilson is never starting another game for the Jets.
I don’t know if that is true. They are going to try to fix him if possible. What makes it untenable for the FO is the Jets got too good too fast on D that the players don’t want to be part of a QB development situation.
 

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Aren't the Niners the likely place for Baker? They need someone who can play now, and he....well....might be able to play now?

I don't think there's a ton of evidence he has the makeup or the judgment to be an NFL starting QB, and that's especially true for a team coached by Belichick.
 

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Aren't the Niners the likely place for Baker? They need someone who can play now, and he....well....might be able to play now?

I don't think there's a ton of evidence he has the makeup or the judgment to be an NFL starting QB, and that's especially true for a team coached by Belichick.
He seems like a bad fit for Kyle’s offense. For better or worse, Shanahan cares most about his QBs running his scheme with minimal done off script. He may very well prefer Josh Johnson as a backup simply because he knows the system. Who knows though, these guys are all bad options for different reasons.
 

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He seems like a bad fit for Kyle’s offense. For better or worse, Shanahan cares most about his QBs running his scheme with minimal done off script. He may very well prefer Josh Johnson as a backup simply because he knows the system. Who knows though, these guys are all bad options for different reasons.
I honestly don't think it matters. I think Purdy holds onto the job, barring injury, over Baker or Johnson, but Baker sucks.

Purdy is a play action passer, who is fine hitting timing routes and going through progressions. He's got issues with the speed of his release, and not the strongest arm, but as long as he doesn't make mistakes, he and that offense shouldn't have an issue scoring points.
 

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I don’t know if that is true. They are going to try to fix him if possible. What makes it untenable for the FO is the Jets got too good too fast on D that the players don’t want to be part of a QB development situation.
Maybe trade him to Carolina?
 

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Yeah, am I missing something? I get that letting AJ Brown go might’ve been a mistake, but this team has made the playoffs for three years running and gotten better each year.
 

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Yeah, am I missing something? I get that letting AJ Brown go might’ve been a mistake, but this team has made the playoffs for three years running and gotten better each year.
Aren’t they worse this year than the last 2 years?
 

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I mean they just gave him a long contract extension all the way back in February of this year.

Seems like an emotional decision made after seeing AJ torch them on Sunday.
 

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I'd argue they are regressing on offense. They are 26th by points. It's essentially hope Derrick Henry goes off or else they are screwed. They are kind of winning their division by default which willl get them a home playoff game but I don't think anyone views them as a threat to win a Super Bowl as currently constructed. They have a -21 point differential.

Vrabel is a high end coach and I'm guessing he won some kind of power struggle here. He wasn't enthused by the Brown trade.

Edit: When they've played the elite teams this season they get anihilated. 41-7 loss to Buffalo, 35-10 loss to Philly, 20-17 OTL to KC which was basically smoke and mirrors and defense to give them a chance.
 

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So uh, it could actually be true the Rams are just blocking the 49ers just because, right?
I think it's just a cheap flier to see if McVay can fix Baker. Stafford's injury seems fairly serious (some sort of spinal issue) so they may be in the market for a new QB sooner rather than later. They don't have their first round draft pick this season due to the Stafford/Goff deal so they have no incentive to lose. This probably falls under throwing shit against the wall but there's little downside for the Rams.
 

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Mayfield is obviously not very good, but you also have to attempt to put an NFL QB out there. It's pretty clear Wolford and Perkins are not NFL QBs. Given they don't have their first rounder either, it makes plenty of sense.
 

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Mayfield is obviously not very good, but you also have to attempt to put an NFL QB out there. It's pretty clear Wolford and Perkins are not NFL QBs. Given they don't have their first rounder either, it makes plenty of sense.
Wolford is fine. Hard to claim Baker is that much better. But Perkins is absolutely not a QB. So that's why they needed Baker.
 

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Baker literally has the lowest QBR year to date. I am personally rooting for him and I hope he can find a way to capture the 2020 magic.

But he has been truly awful the last two seasons. Not even replacement level.
 

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Wolford is fine. Hard to claim Baker is that much better. But Perkins is absolutely not a QB. So that's why they needed Baker.
Wolford is fine as a break glass in case of emergency 3rd stringer. But he has shown absolutely nothing in 3 years of obviously a very small sample (3 starts between 19' & 21' and then 4 passes in 2020) that he's an NFL QB. His reads are slow, he's not accurate and he panics. Mayfield is much better than he is, but that says more about him than Mayfield who obviously isn't good either.
 

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John Robinson fired by the Titans today
A lot of GMs wouldn't make it a full year if they were judged on former players torching their previous team in a game. In all seriousness, his teams have been +21 games over .500 since he arrived in 2016. MAYBE you could say Mike Vrabel is putting lipstick on a "pig" (bad roster composition) but I'm not necessarily buying it. And Tannehill has a better rating this year with Brown gone, not that there is direct correlation but to say it doesn't seem AJ was the end-all be-all to the Titans offense. I've seen on ESPN there are "sources" leaking poor draft performance with a some disappointing first round picks, but I think it is a simple power play with Vrabel.

I think it's just a cheap flier to see if McVay can fix Baker. Stafford's injury seems fairly serious (some sort of spinal issue) so they may be in the market for a new QB sooner rather than later. They don't have their first round draft pick this season due to the Stafford/Goff deal so they have no incentive to lose. This probably falls under throwing shit against the wall but there's little downside for the Rams.
Based on Stafford's wife's social media post several weeks back and generally how he was on pace to have the most sacks by far of his career this season (and he played on some BAD Lions teams), I could see him packing it up if his body does not bounce back from this injury to his family's liking.
 

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Any chance Robinson comes back tot he Patriots?
Honestly, the most optimistic succession plan for the Pats might be something like re-hiring Robinson and bringing back BoB as OC with the idea of him becoming the next HC, although since BoB had full power in Houston at one time I'm not sure if that would work out long term.
 

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Not a super great day to be a Bills fan.

They wisely exploited the final year of Allen playing under a cheap contract by throwing big money at Miller, who I do think would’ve been a difference maker in the KC game they couldn’t quite close in prior years, only for him to blow out his knee down the stretch. The guy isn’t a spring chicken and blew out the same knee in 2013, but he’s a durable player over the course of his career. What can you do?
 
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Honestly, the most optimistic succession plan for the Pats might be something like re-hiring Robinson and bringing back BoB as OC with the idea of him becoming the next HC, although since BoB had full power in Houston at one time I'm not sure if that would work out long term.
This wouldn’t make me very optimistic. I think the only way BOB ever takes over from Bill is if he comes as OC and Mac really becomes a Top 5 guy and they go on a nice little run of contention, which seems pretty unlikely. My guess is when Bill retires Jonathan goes outside the Belichick universe and tries something different, e.g. grabs a hot non-Alabama college coach and pairs him with an experienced GM.
 

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Honestly, the most optimistic succession plan for the Pats might be something like re-hiring Robinson and bringing back BoB as OC with the idea of him becoming the next HC, although since BoB had full power in Houston at one time I'm not sure if that would work out long term.
I think this only works if Bill's last years as HC are successful and Kraft believes some degree of continuity would benefit the franchise. If they keep treading water and Bill retires, my guess is he'll go a different route with the next HC/GM.
 

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The NFL has fined the New Orleans Saints, several of the team's coaches and defensive end Cameron Jordan more than half a million dollars for faking an injury during the team's loss to the Tampa Bay Buccaneers on "Monday Night Football," sources told ESPN's Adam Schefter on Saturday.
The Saints were fined $350,000, head coach Dennis Allen $100,000, co-defensive coordinator Ryan Nielsen $50,000 and Jordan $50,000 for their roles in the fourth-quarter delay. All parties plan to appeal their fines, the sources added.
https://www.espn.com/nfl/story/_/id/35225422/sources-saints-coaches-player-fined-500k-nfl
 

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Jordan’s got a better case than Bates. Still tenuous and he’s obviously faking but harder to prove. That said, it’s the NFL and [insert totally not overplayed Deflategate joke].
 

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I, for one, am shocked no team has signed Odell. You would think an over the hill WR who tore his ACL 10 months ago and won't be ready to play until late January would be a hot commodity.

Alas, the circus will continue and continue because he made a really awesome catch 6 years ago.
 

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I, for one, am shocked no team has signed Odell. You would think an over the hill WR who tore his ACL 10 months ago and won't be ready to play until late January would be a hot commodity.

Alas, the circus will continue and continue because he made a really awesome catch 6 years ago.
He was really good in the playoffs for the Rams.
 

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I, for one, am shocked no team has signed Odell. You would think an over the hill WR who tore his ACL 10 months ago and won't be ready to play until late January would be a hot commodity.
OBJ: "I've played football for a long time. I'm not saying that I couldn't step in and play regular season, but I don't see the point. I really don't. I would rather play when the pressure is on."
https://www.nfl.com/news/odell-beckham-jr-i-don-t-see-the-point-in-playing-in-regular-season

I guess it makes sense, but it kind of comes off awkwardly
 

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There's some rumors out there that Mariota's wife had a baby, but this statement doesn't mention that and you think it would if that's all it is.
 

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Paraphrasing Olivia Munn, who said it about Jon Stewart, after spending more time with his family, Beasley decided to spend less time with his family
 

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Paraphrasing Olivia Munn, who said it about Jon Stewart, after spending more time with his family, Beasley decided to spend less time with his family
the first time a line like that became really satirized was with a coach I think, college football maybe, ah I can’t remember.