NFL Playoffs - Divisional Round game thread

What ONE team are you certain survives the Divisional Round?

  • Bengals

    Votes: 13 6.6%
  • Titans

    Votes: 20 10.2%
  • Chiefs

    Votes: 22 11.2%
  • Bills

    Votes: 5 2.5%
  • 49ers

    Votes: 10 5.1%
  • Packers

    Votes: 75 38.1%
  • Rams

    Votes: 5 2.5%
  • Buccaneers

    Votes: 47 23.9%

  • Total voters
    197
  • Poll closed .

BaseballJones

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The pylon is out of bounds. If it was inside the white line it would be in bounds
Do you mean it's positioned out of bounds, or if you hit it you're out of bounds? Because clearly the latter is not the case, as we just saw on the Mahomes TD.
 

johnmd20

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Do you mean it's positioned out of bounds, or if you hit it you're out of bounds? Because clearly the latter is not the case, as we just saw on the Mahomes TD.
You see it a lot, actually. It's not that rare for a guy to lay out and hit the pylon with the ball and it's always called a TD.
 

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Yes, but announcers seem to say if a player hits the pylon, he’s in.

The key then is to knock the pylon out. If Mahomes had hit it square with the tip of the ball and pushed it straight back, would they have ruled him OOB?

And if you hit the outside edge of the pylon, you’re out. But I can’t recall if I’ve ever seen it called that way.

Maybe I’m forgetting the obvious or am going senile,
The pylon is out of bounds IN the end zone. If any part of the ball touches any part of the pylon it’s a TD.
 

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The pylon is out of bounds IN the end zone. If any part of the ball touches any part of the pylon it’s a TD.
But there’s the rub.

If you’re running toward the left sideline and reach out and graze the left edge of the pylon, you would be crossing the goal line out of bounds, so it should logically be no touchdown.

Because the pylon is positioned oob (aligned with the white line of the sideline, which is itself oob).

I know it’s academic, but what am I missing?
 

CFB_Rules

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He's out of bounds in the end zone so it results in a TD? I don't understand that at all.
The pylon is the intersection of the goal line and the out of bounds. When you touch it you are simultaneously both out of bounds and also in the end zone. This is easy to understand for loose balls: fumble a ball into the pylon and it’s a touchback or safety (depending on which end zone). For runners it just means the “point of progress” is marked as having been in the end zone. Which is a TD.
 

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Does this dude in the Chevy commercial think dude is going to pork his daughter in the bed of his truck while he's in the front seat?
 

DennyDoyle'sBoil

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I don’t think the Bills can win if they don’t give at least the appearance that they are prepared to throw more than three yards beyond the line of scrimmage. The reason they are able to pick up 5 and 6 yards a play is because you have to respect play action.

I don’t understand why they would choose to make themselves so one dimensional to start the game. You need to show the defense something.
 

DennyDoyle'sBoil

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Yeah but if it's OOB, you've broken the plane OUT OF BOUNDS. So if Mahomes extended, missed the pylon, and the ball hit NEXT TO the pylon but out of bounds, is it a TD?
I think the question is best asked whether it is a TD to touch the outside of the pylon with the ball. I believe the answer is no. The ball must go over or touch the inside of the pylon. At least that is what one of the on air refs said this year.
 

BaseballJones

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The pylon is the intersection of the goal line and the out of bounds. When you touch it you are simultaneously both out of bounds and also in the end zone. This is easy to understand for loose balls: fumble a ball into the pylon and it’s a touchback or safety (depending on which end zone). For runners it just means the “point of progress” is marked as having been in the end zone. Which is a TD.
Still makes no sense. If you're out of bounds, you're not IN the end zone. The end zone is all IN BOUNDS. If the pylon is out of bounds, you are therefore not in the end zone.
 

BaseballJones

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I think the question is best asked whether it is a TD to touch the outside of the pylon with the ball. I believe the answer is no. The ball must go over or touch the inside of the pylon. At least that is what one of the on air refs said this year.
Outside or inside of the pylon - it's all out of bounds. So how can touching it anywhere be IN the end zone, which is an area of the field that is IN bounds?
 

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It’s really not that hard to throw a football fairly accurately, like 5-10 yards, sidearm. Especially for people that have played both baseball and football. It’s one of those “skills” that get so overstated by analysts.
 

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Outside or inside of the pylon - it's all out of bounds. So how can touching it anywhere be IN the end zone, which is an area of the field that is IN bounds?
The Goal Line doesn’t end at the sideline, it actually ends at the outside edge of the pylon. So each pylon is 4 inches wide, thus the goal line is actually 8 inches wider than every other line.

Any part of the ball touching any part of the pylon, or crossing over any part of the pylon, is a touchdown.
 

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Outside or inside of the pylon - it's all out of bounds. So how can touching it anywhere be IN the end zone, which is an area of the field that is IN bounds?
I do not think it is physically possible for the ball to touch the inside of the pylon but not have crossed the plane with at least some portion of the ball in bounds.
 

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Does anyone else just feel indifferent about this game? I can usually muster up more hate for one team over the other. I just really want both teams to lose and don’t really care about the outcome.
 

Ferm Sheller

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If everyone watched that pylon video I posted every morning like I do we wouldn't be having this confusion.
 

BaseballJones

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The Goal Line doesn’t end at the sideline, it actually ends at the outside edge of the pylon. So each pylon is 4 inches wide, thus the goal line is actually 8 inches wider than every other line.

Any part of the ball touching any part of the pylon, or crossing over any part of the pylon, is a touchdown.
I get that that's the rule. It's dumb though. Oh well, whatever.