NFL Week 16 Game Thread

johnmd20

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Yeah, you are probably right. I can't get over my personal dislike for the guy and how I have to listen to the media say how he is more talented/better than Brady. I am still a Brady guy in the Brady vs Rodgers debate, and I would take Brady again in the NFC Championship game over Rodgers.
And you are 100% right on the Packers' online. I probably thought it was so good because I have not watched many Packers' games this seasons, but in the ones I have seen, they give up no pressure.
Rodgers has such a quick release, it's really, really tough to get to him. If you watch his drop backs closely, the ball is out before anything happens. Whereas, Baker Mayfield takes 20 minutes to go through his progressions.

Rodgers is an incredible QB. He's not Tom Brady because Rodgers isn't a great leader. And that matters, QBs have to play well but they also have to lead their team. Rodgers is a freak. But his physical tools are unparalleled in the NFL.
 

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I mean, it was one game with a QB who has never started an NFL game playing on short notice largely because Rodgers was “immunized”, the only other game Love played in involved Rodgers being terrible.if anything I’d think it’s a knock against an MVP to miss a game due to poor personal decision making and put his team in that spot. I don’t think we could fairly say any offense is terrible without it’s starter because it struggles with its backup QB in a pinch.
How did Baltimore do with Huntley at QB? Don't give me that, "Never started an NFL game on short notice." Love has been in the NFL for almost two years. Huntley came in and put up 30 points against GB with backup RBs and terrible WRs.

And Green Bay with Love was absolutely horrendous. They were laughably bad. The facts are not arguable.
 

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Rodgers is great of course, but with no dominant NFC team over his career (Seahawks, briefly) it’s pretty bad that he only has the one SB appearance.
 

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Rodgers is great of course, but with no dominant NFC team over his career (Seahawks, briefly) it’s pretty bad that he only has the one SB appearance.
Brees has one SB appearance. Rivers had 0. Making the Super Bowl is hard. Winning it is harder. Tom Brady has broken the curve.
 

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Rodgers is a fucking weird dude, an asshole for his COVID bullshit, and a generationally talented QB. All can be true.

Mike McCarthy is a shitty coach with a street named after him in Green Bay because of Aaron Rodgers.
 

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How did Baltimore do with Huntley at QB? Don't give me that, "Never started an NFL game on short notice." Love has been in the NFL for almost two years. Huntley came in and put up 30 points against GB with backup RBs and terrible WRs.

And Green Bay with Love was absolutely horrendous. They were laughably bad. The facts are not arguable.
So because one backup is good, it means all backups are good and all teams react the same way. Got it.

Maybe Jordan Love is a bad QB. Maybe the Packers had played with Rodgers for years and didn't adjust well to a different QB. The Packers sucking for one game with Love because Aaron Rodgers refused to get vaccinated isn't evidence of anything beyond that. They lost by 35 with Rodgers this year to the Saints, doesn't mean they're a bad team, maybe they had a bad game.
 

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So because one backup is good, it means all backups are good and all teams react the same way. Got it.

Maybe Jordan Love is a bad QB. Maybe the Packers had played with Rodgers for years and didn't adjust well to a different QB. The Packers sucking for one game with Love because Aaron Rodgers refused to get vaccinated isn't evidence of anything beyond that. They lost by 35 with Rodgers this year to the Saints, doesn't mean they're a bad team, maybe they had a bad game.
Actually it's evidence that the Packers are a Super Bowl caliber team with Rodgers and a team who can't move the ball without him. Did that game against the Chiefs not happen? What am I missing here?
 

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Actually it's evidence that the Packers are a Super Bowl caliber team with Rodgers and a team who can't move the ball without him. Did that game against the Chiefs not happen? What am I missing here?
It's one damn game. They sucked in one game, a road game against the AFC Champs where their backup who never started a game was given five days of prep. They also sucked in a game with Rodgers where the Saints kicked their asses for 60 minutes. It's like saying Cam Newton was a great QB because the Pats couldn't win with Brian Hoyer in one game.

If you gave a competent proven QB the Packers offense for 8 games and he went 2-6 I'd buy this more. I'm not giving Rodgers bonus credit for his. I don't have an issue with him being MVP this is just a bad argument for it.
 

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Don’t know if I like this challenge. I think it’s probably incomplete, but it’s not sure to be reversed, and it’s hard to use one of your challenges in the 1st half to get 3rd and 17 instead of 3rd and 10.
 

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Challenge on a play that is the difference between third and 10 and third and 14 but don’t challenge on a first down fourth dow call losing late in the half. Kliff is too stupid to be an NFL coach.