NFL Week 4 Game Thread

Justthetippett

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Giants fans are despondent on WFAN today. I thought Jones played well but his obvious limitations were on display as well. Just can’t throw the deep ball. And he’s already getting Nabers killed out there.
They have to know Jones is not the answer. That's been clear for a while, even though he can string together some good performances. The question is really whether they give Daboll/Schoen a chance to reboot with a new QB or clean house. I think the Maras want to be conservative and have continuity and will keep them if they can. QB vortex is exhausting for so many teams.
 

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Giants fans are despondent on WFAN today. I thought Jones played well but his obvious limitations were on display as well. Just can’t throw the deep ball. And he’s already getting Nabers killed out there.
Honestly Nabers is getting Nabers killed. There was not a single hospital ball last night. All the hits that Nabers was limping or concussed after were well after he got the ball.
 

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They have to know Jones is not the answer. That's been clear for a while, even though he can string together some good performances. The question is really whether they give Daboll/Schoen a chance to reboot with a new QB or clean house. I think the Maras want to be conservative and have continuity and will keep them if they can. QB vortex is exhausting for so many teams.
They’ve also had a lot of recent turnover so maybe they want some continuity. Wonder if a guy like Flores would interest the Mara’s given their BC ties.
 

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They’ve also had a lot of recent turnover so maybe they want some continuity. Wonder if a guy like Flores would interest the Mara’s given their BC ties.
Brian Flores? Didn't they fake interview him last time around leading BB to confuse the Brians in his phone and launch the discrimination lawsuit? That would be a plot twist!
 

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Brian Flores? Didn't they fake interview him last time around leading BB to confuse the Brians in his phone and launch the discrimination lawsuit? That would be a plot twist!
He is literally still suing them in Federal Court, it's in the part of the lawsuit the Judge said can continue without arbitration.
 

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Brian Flores? Didn't they fake interview him last time around leading BB to confuse the Brians in his phone and launch the discrimination lawsuit? That would be a plot twist!
Ha, I honestly completely forgot about that. Maybe they should have given him a real interview!
 

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They have to know Jones is not the answer. That's been clear for a while, even though he can string together some good performances. The question is really whether they give Daboll/Schoen a chance to reboot with a new QB or clean house. I think the Maras want to be conservative and have continuity and will keep them if they can. QB vortex is exhausting for so many teams.
In fairness to Jones, in two of their losses he's had potential game changing drives end with a receiver dropping a fourth down pass in their hands. I think the two missed calls by the refs in the first half loomed large--the screwing up the facemask call on Bellinger (I've never seen that before--I've seen the refs miss it when both players grabbed each other's mask but they only called one of them, but never calling the foul on the player who got his mask pulled), and picking up the flags on the two obvious holding calls on the first Cowboys TD.

But some blame has to go on Daboll for not going for it on fourth and goal from the three down 14-9. It was like the Commanders game was in his head --"if we just string enough FGs together, we can steal this game." But you're not going to win a game against the Cowboys trading FGs, especially since they have a guy who can seemingly boot them from 70 yards away.

To me, the Giants look more like a team that could still win 8 or 9 games (assuming Nabers doesn't miss several games) and be just good enough to save both Daboll's and Schoen's jobs than the dumpster fire they were predicted to be. The only team that blew their doors off was the Vikings, who have now done the same to two teams with Super Bowl aspirations, so that loss doesn't look as bad as it did in Week 1.
 

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To me, the Giants look more like a team that could still win 8 or 9 games (assuming Nabers doesn't miss several games) and be just good enough to save both Daboll's and Schoen's jobs than the dumpster fire they were predicted to be. The only team that blew their doors off was the Vikings, who have now done the same to two teams with Super Bowl aspirations, so that loss doesn't look as bad as it did in Week 1.
Man, the Giants do not look like a 9 win team to me. That feels quite ambitious. They are bad on offense, especially in the red zone.
 

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I taped the game last night on YTTV and just rewatched it.

Man alive, some of those calls genuinely made it look like the NFL was rooting for Dallas. It was tough to watch.

If the NFL is going to go this deep into the gambling advertising pool, the refs can't completely dominate games like this and make so many poor calls. The "facemask" call was an all time bad call. But nothing is funnier than the Chiefs getting the PI call to win the game in Week 2 and then Atlanta not getting the PI call the next week, so the Chiefs could win the game.
 

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I taped the game last night on YTTV and just rewatched it.

Man alive, some of those calls genuinely made it look like the NFL was rooting for Dallas. It was tough to watch.

If the NFL is going to go this deep into the gambling advertising pool, the refs can't completely dominate games like this and make so many poor calls. The "facemask" call was an all time bad call. But nothing is funnier than the Chiefs getting the PI call to win the game in Week 2 and then Atlanta not getting the PI call the next week, so the Chiefs could win the game.
They’ll probably find new ways to bet on the reffing beyond basic prop bets. Maybe let people pick refs for their fantasy teams evaluate them on some advanced metric they invent on how much the ref impacted the game?

Holy crap, what a horrific idea.
 

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Whenever nobody is posting in game threads, I start getting paranoid something important is happening of which I’m not aware. Should I be packing a bugout bag or something?
 

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Whenever nobody is posting in game threads, I start getting paranoid something important is happening of which I’m not aware. Should I be packing a bugout bag or something?
The Sunday game threads are usually dead until 3:30pm. They are literally dead if the Pats are playing.

SoSH doesn't know ball.
 

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Richardson goes off for a play after getting trucked

Flacco hands off for big gain

Richardson back on called for a qb bootleg and gets trucked. Off to concussion protocol

wtf play calling is that.
 

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Richardson gets popped and grabs a hip. Sits out a play, and they immediately run an RPO for him to get popped again. Dumb.
 

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I think we have 0 combined yard of offense in Jersey so far. Two good Ds, terrible weather, a true field position battle.
 

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it’s Justin Fields fourth season, and he still can’t take a snap under center. Not saying you would definitely run the sneak there, but you have to make the defense defend it IMO.
 

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Denver D is fucking stout. We are doing some dumb choices but they are impressing me.
 

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Does this OL lining up wrong thing really need to be a penalty? Can the refs just tell them to line up right before the snap like in middle school scrimmages or something?
 

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Panthers DB tries a weak should tackle on Chase, who bounces off and goes all the way for a Bengals TD