No more homefield advantage decided by the ASG?

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Finally one of the dumbest overreactions to a singular tie game in a meaningless exhibition will be going away. Hopefully. Good on Manfred.

 

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Letting the ASG decide home-field advantage in the WS does not bother me at all.
 

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Letting the ASG decide home-field advantage in the WS does not bother me at all.
In general it hasn't pissed me off the way it does some people, but I think this year is a glaring example of how dumb it is. The Cubs were better all season and deserve home field.
 

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Manfred has sort of been like a good umpire this far into his run. No one has really noticed any blown calls yet so he must be competent.
 

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I think I'm with the majority in saying that the All-Star game shouldn't determine anything with regards to the actual season.

Better team record should get it.
 

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In general it hasn't pissed me off the way it does some people, but I think this year is a glaring example of how dumb it is. The Cubs were better all season and deserve home field.
Well, they weren't guaranteed home field before this stupid All Star game thing happened either.
 

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Well, they weren't guaranteed home field before this stupid All Star game thing happened either.
That's true - I should say that alternating is/was also dumb. Best record is flawed due to unbalanced schedules, but it's the best we've got.
 

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Just give it to the team that emerges from the league with the better overall record.
 

cromulence

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How bout a one game playoff at a neutral site?
I have a better system. Every team that fails to make the playoffs goes into a playoff of their own for the right to host the playoff that decides home field for the World Series. Perfect. Done.
 

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How bout a one game playoff at a neutral site?
Is that you, Scott Boras?

Different leagues and unbalanced schedules. Heck, some years the 2 teams might not have even played the same number of games. Using best record just doesn't strike me as superior.
 

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I like having the ASG determine home field advantage because recent results prove the NL sucks at all star games.
 

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I liked it. Who wins interleague play is the other option. Being the best team in a worse league ( see NL for many years) sucks.
 

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The NL has a career winning percentage of .470 vs the AL (.455 since 2004) which is basically a 76-86 regular season because we have two stupidly separate rules. The edge is going to be in the AL's favor until that changes.

Rotating each year is the most basic, and fair way of doing it as it was before.
 

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Since we're throwing around new ideas: How about record against common opponents, or head-to-head record if they met during the season.
 

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How is anything more fair than the team with the best record? If teams have identical records, go to head-to-heads. If they hadn't met, go with a coin flip.

The ASG should not have any impact on a real game.
 

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The HFA/ASG thing was novel at first, as the All Star Game had become a borderline mockery (as opposed to the Pro Bowl, whose existence is totally absurd). But I agree it's kind of silly to continue to have the All Star Game impact the World Series.

Either team with best record, or league with best interleague record, gets HFA. Maybe make the ASG be the 4th or 5th tiebreaker just before a coin toss.

Anyone seriously suggesting a neutral site game should be granted a lifelong internship with Nick Cafardo.
 

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I didn't see enough love for a pre-World-Series game to determine home field, between the two WS teams, played at a neutral site.

Of course that still leaves us to debate who gets to bat last in that game, or which league's rules you use...

(I guess whichever team doesn't get thier rules, gets to bat last...)
 

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I didn't see enough love for a pre-World-Series game to determine home field, between the two WS teams, played at a neutral site.

Of course that still leaves us to debate who gets to bat last in that game, or which league's rules you use...

(I guess whichever team doesn't get thier rules, gets to bat last...)
Yeah, then what if it's a team from Canada. Way too many variables.
 

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The current rule is so stupid, it's mind-boggling.

Just give home-field advantage to the team with the best record. Just like every single other postseason series. The schedules aren't the same, but they aren't the same for the teams in the earlier rounds either, and people don't really care. Best record = home field. If you don't like it, then your team should have won more actual games over the course of the season.

Unlike the current rule, where if you don't like it, then your 3 or 4 players on your league's 30-man All-Star team should have done more to win a single midseason exhibition game.
 

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So what if we give the advantage to team with best record and they still lose? are we going to bitch when a 105 win team loses to 87 win team in the world series and say "well that just means the team with the best record should get more than 4 home games. the current format is NOT FAIR!"

you know what if the team with the best record is the best team they will and should win. period. the extra home game shouldn't make a difference either way.

alternate every year which league has the advantage so teams are aware ahead of time what they are up against. and win a friggin road game if you are only given 3 home games
 

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This year the AL had 5 teams with a losing record and the NL had 9. The Cubs feasted on vastly inferior opponents all year long. Why should they get rewarded for that? Best record in completely different leagues is no better than the winner of the All Star game.
 

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This year the AL had 5 teams with a losing record and the NL had 9. The Cubs feasted on vastly inferior opponents all year long. Why should they get rewarded for that? Best record in completely different leagues is no better than the winner of the All Star game.
Agreed. Sort of

If the Cubs changed places with the Rays, they wouldn't win 94 games. But if they changed played with the Indians, they may have won 110.

Luck and timing is important as it is everywhere in life
 

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I've never understood how people get so worked up about this.

I truly don't give a shit. I have zero opinion. And I have an opinion on everything. Every argument against it seems to degenerate into, "I don't like it, it's stupid."

I find it unsettling when people feel strongly about stuff and I don't know why.
 

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I've never understood how people get so worked up about this.

I truly don't give a shit. I have zero opinion. And I have an opinion on everything. Every argument against it seems to degenerate into, "I don't like it, it's stupid."

I find it unsettling when people feel strongly about stuff and I don't know why.
I don't like your attitude on this; it's stupid
 

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Always thought a 3 point system would work best and give all star game some relevance as well as late season games

1 pt to league whose World Series representative has best record.
1 pt to league with best record in inter league games that year
1 pt to league who is all star game winner

If neither league gets 2 points because of ties then tie breaker is the above (i.e. BEST record, then league, then ASG, then coin flip if we have multiple ties and a 2002 asg result)

So if AL is "better league" all year long than Nl then nl team w best record has to suck it up. But there's still some incentive to finish w best record. He'll end of season twins @ padres game may have meaning! All star game has meaning because it's early.

Only downside is 1 week before series there could be 3 possible host cities instead of the 2 the league admin prefers but c'est la vie. Way better than the "alternating years" rule that arguably may have given Twins an arbitrary title in 1987...
 

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Every other sport uses best record for home advantage in playoff matchups (obviously excluding the Super Bowl or a wild card vs division winner scenario). None of them play the exact same opponents in a given season. All sports will have strong or weak divisions and conference in a given year. It balances out in the long run. Most wins gets home field.
 

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I think the clear answer is for each League's top seed to compete in a "Battle of the Network Stars"-type event the same day as the play-in games. Feats of strength, obstacle courses, and whatnot.
 
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how about all 7 games at a neutral site in a warm weather city (Houston, Miami, Tampa, San Diego, SF, etc)....works so well for the NFL Super Bowl!

in all seriousness, glad to see this rule bite the dust...give it to the team with the best record
 

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Never really had much of an opinion on the ASG determining the WS' HFA because I never considered the 2-3-2 format THAT much of an advantage to the advantaged team. All the visiting team has to do is take 1 out of 2 to steal the advantage. And it's baseball, where there are no audibles and the fans aren't breathing down your neck.

Make each ASG team represent and earn $ for a charity, paid by the league and/or clubs. A strikeout could earn $100K, a HR $1M and a bonus $10M to the winning team's charity. It's not like anyone's short of cash these days.
 

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And it's baseball, where there are no audibles and the fans aren't breathing down your neck.
They literally change the rules between AL and NL parks, they don't do that in football.
 

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Build a stadium at the geographic mean of the current 30 MLB stadiums that is only used for the World Series. Each team uses its own league's rules for every game. Problem solved.
 

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Every other sport uses best record for home advantage in playoff matchups (obviously excluding the Super Bowl or a wild card vs division winner scenario). None of them play the exact same opponents in a given season. All sports will have strong or weak divisions and conference in a given year. It balances out in the long run. Most wins gets home field.
Yes, this. Sometimes the obsession with absolute equality of schedule on SoSH is too much for me. Best record is easily the best solution. Is it 100% perfect? I guess not. But it's still easily the best solution.
 

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Build a stadium at the geographic mean of the current 30 MLB stadiums that is only used for the World Series. Each team uses its own league's rules for every game. Problem solved.
Play it in Williamsport and Cooperstown in alternating years .
 

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Go back to the last time the two teams played each other and give home field to whichever team won that game...alternatively go back to the last 3 games they played and give it to the team with the majority of wins.