Now it's Sale's turn: Sale has COVID, will not start Sunday (9/10 update)
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Oh man this one stings. I think he's been vaccinated and already had covid. I mean...what are you gonna do?
Still think based on the last two weeks the starting pitchers should quarantine between starts.
They have a lot of days off coming up: 9/16, 9/20, 9/23, 9/27. Would have to think at least a 4 man rotation is in the cards.
They're already down a starter with Pivetta out. Who's the #4? Peacock? Seabold? Richards?
There's a chance Pivetta is back soon, right? He never tested positive as far as I heard.
I would try Seabold myself for starting
I would try Seabold myself for starting
Crawford is scheduled tonight for Worcester. We’ll know soon if he’s scratched.
Pivetta is also close to being back apparently.
Pivetta did test positive. He won't be back before mid-week next week at the earliest.
Any chance Sale is just an isolated incident outside of the recent major outbreak? Seems like it slowed down for a few days.
Bah. Still, Pete Abe thinks he can be back soon?
View: https://twitter.com/PeteAbe/status/1436346473180979210
What difference does it make if you can't leave your hotel room? A view?
I am coming around to blaming Cora and Bloom et al for not enforcing mask wearing in the dugout and clubhouse if the club is under 85% vaccinated. Dammit all to hell.
Someone in some thread (could have been this one) addressed it earlier and it's worthy of repeating:
Why starting pitchers aren't being "bubbled" is beyond me. They serve no purpose on days they aren't pitching, and the risk isn't worth it.
Why starting pitchers aren't being "bubbled" is beyond me. They serve no purpose on days they aren't pitching, and the risk isn't worth it.
Apparently he wasn't on the team flight to Chicago, so he may be at home for the next 10 days. Small silver lining for him, I guess.
View: https://twitter.com/alexspeier/status/1436362515819155460
They do throw from the bullpen mound with coaches watching working on things that didn't go well between starts. And on any new pitches they are trying to perfect enough to throw in games. Also any physical issues with the training staff.
Christian Arroyo has dropped off the face of the earth it seems. He may be seriously ill.
They also do their daily conditioning runs and are in the weight room in addition to their regular bullpen sessions. Starters have a set routine they follow each day between starts that require them at the ballpark.
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If covid is going to continue to be an issue beyond this season, it's going to require teams to rethink how they do things ... at least to minimize exposure for starting pitchers. Many of the things you and Abs brought up don't require them to be around the entire team and staff for the entirety of game day. If you don't want Chris Sale to miss time, for instance, there's no reason to have him crammed in a dugout or clubhouse on days he doesn't pitch ... after he gets his off day workouts and treatments
I get what you are saying about teams having to become more creative, but I just don't think they are going to 100% bubble down players unless they are on board with it. What should be happening is the continuation of the longer dugouts and like you say stagger times for players to get their work in so the facilities aren't too crowded.
Is there any chance MLB will institute a bubble for the players once the post season arrives? With vaccinated players testing positive , what's happening now with the Red Sox could theoretically happen to any team, and it would be a damned shame if a playoff series were affected because of players suddenly having to be quarantined. The Players Association and MLB probably wouldn't go along with the idea, but personally I'd like to see all teams in a bubble for the last week of the season until they're eliminated.
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Further re-inforcements may be imminent. Sawamura is playing catch on the field. Seems like that would indicate he'll be back at some point this weekend (based on Kike being activated the day after he returned to the park).
View: https://twitter.com/IanMBrowne/status/1436425083069902849
Edit to add, Barnes on the field as well...
View: https://twitter.com/PeteAbe/status/1436427765474078721
View: https://twitter.com/IanMBrowne/status/1436425083069902849
Edit to add, Barnes on the field as well...
View: https://twitter.com/PeteAbe/status/1436427765474078721
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Keekay looked out-of-synch in his first game back, then seemed to get back into the rhythm of things. Of course, that's an everyday player. Pitchers are on their own body clocks
Barnes and Sawamura are throwing bullpens today and then re-assessing. Would think that relievers don't need much to get back into rhythm, or at least can do most of the work to be ready off the field. Martin Perez is in Worcester on a rehab assignment and expected to pitch on Sunday after throwing a bullpen today. All three went down about the same time so presumably the schedule would be roughly the same. I just don't know why Perez went to Worcester but the others didn't, unless they feel he needs more game work as a multi-inning guy?
View: https://twitter.com/IanMBrowne/status/1436435935554588687
View: https://twitter.com/IanMBrowne/status/1436436075594063874
I think that's describing Arroyo's situation. He's not yet doing any baseball activities whereas the pitchers are all throwing at the very least.
I'm just gonna update this as we go. Moves are now by transaction date, actual games played the player missed noted in parens on return. (This may capture a normal off day or two.)
Gone and Back.
Active Callups and Returns from Covid:
Gone and Back.
Christian Arroyo: Aug. 27 (+ test) (more severe symptoms than others per Cora on 9/7)
Enrique Hernandez: Aug. 27 (+ test)
return: Sept. 7 (missed 11 games)
Martin Perez: Aug. 30 (+ test)
Matt Barnes: Aug. 30 (+ test)
Josh Taylor: Aug. 31 (? test - 7 day minimum for a close contact.)
return: Sept. 6. (missed 7 games)
Hirokazu Sawamura: Aug. 31 (+ test)
Xander Boegarts: Sept. 1. (+ test)
return: Sept. 10. (missed 9 games counting 8/31 removal)
Yario Munoz: Sept. 1. (+ test)
Jarod Durran: Sept. 3 (+ test - symptoms before test)
Nick Pivetta: Sept. 5. (+ test)
Danny "Power and Speed" Santanner: Sept 5. (Negative test, but fielding poorly)
return: Sept. 7 (missed 2 games)
Chris Sale: Sept. 10 (+ test)
Total 11 Covid-impacted players. And maybe Santana.
Active Callups and Returns from Covid:
J. Arauz: Aug. 27
(down 9/10)
Yario Munoz: Aug. 27
(Covid on 9/1)
Phillips Valdez: Aug. 30
Raynel Espinal: Aug. 30
(down 8/31)
Stephen Gonsalves: Aug. 31
Brad Peacock: Aug. 31
(Renfroe returns from bereavement leave: 8/31)
Roster Expansion 9/1 to 28 playersJohn Schreiber: Sept. 1
(down on 9/6)
Jack Lopez: Sept. 1
(down on 9/6)
Danny "Power and Speed" Santanner: Sept. 1
(Covid ? on 9/5)
returned on 9/7
Ryan Brasier: Sept. 1
Connor Wong: Sept. 3
(down on 9/4)
Taylor Motter: Sept 4 (claimed off waivers from Rockies 9/2)
(DFA 9/7)
Kutter Crawford: Sept. 5
(down on 9/6)
Franchy Cordero: Sept. 5
(down on 9/7)
Josh Taylor: Sept. 6 (return from Covid close contact)
Michael Feliz: Sept. 6 (free agent - released by Reds 8/25)
Jose Iglesias: Sept. 6 (free agent - released by Angels 9/3)
Enrique Hernandez: Sept. 7 (return from Covid, + test)
Darwinzon Hernandez: Sept. 10
Kaleb Ort: Sept. 10
Xander Boegarts: Sept. 10. (return from Covid + test)
(Latest update is based on Pete Abraham's reporting - seems we have an extra player active.)
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