At least until his rookie deal is up.If Mayfield is the real deal the Browns will contend for a while in the AFC.
ODB is way better and younger, so if he actually stays focused, it’s good for both teams.Why not just sign Golden Tate and keep #17 and Peppers?
That is a pretty good haul for someone with a high dollar contract.Supposedly a 1st, 3rd, and Jabril Peppers.
Peppers is a poor man’s replacement for Landon Collins. He’s also from NJ, so I gather there is some appeal for him to “come home” even if the Jints stink. I always felt he was a little overrated at Michigan, and I think he’s a little small for today’s NFL box safeties, but he’s willing to stick his nose in there. Still... quite a haul for the NYG.I don't know how good Peppers is. I would have taken him, but I'm sure Bill wasn't giving up two high draft picks this year.
Yeah, but again you have to view this in context. They are carrying $16 million only because they got one of the best players in the game last year at a cap hit of less than $6 million. Cap space carries over, so his effective cost last year was $22 million, and they can now spread that $16 million over two years I believe. There's a bit of a zero sum game here.That package is OK at best. The Giants also have to carry $16 million in dead money because they traded him pre-June 1st.
So why not trade him last offseason before signing him to a big deal if there's any issues? We know they talked to the Patriots last offseason.Yeah, but again you have to view this in context. They are carrying $16 million only because they got one of the best players in the game last year at a cap hit of less than $6 million. Cap space carries over, so his effective cost last year was $22 million, and they can now spread that $16 million over two years I believe. There's a bit of a zero sum game here.
OBJ also has the big advantage of being aliveODB is way better and younger, so if he actually stays focused, it’s good for both teams.
Edit - ODB is way older, actually. OBJ is younger.
If they start the rebuild, what will they have of Barkley’s prime on the other side? What is the shelf life on RBs getting 350 touches?Dave Gettelman literally has no idea what he's doing. Signing OBJ to this big deal instead of trading him last offseason, drafting Barkley instead of a QB at #3 last year, signing Solder to a big-money deal, etc. They have no sense of who they are or what their long-term plan is. They were trying to win now combined with trying to rebuild and you can't do both if you don't have a big-time QB at the helm which is not what Eli is.
So, do they go full rebuild now and release Eli?
That was the problem all along in drafting him. A rebuilding team does not need a star RB at #3 in the draft. They will regret the day they passed on drafting a QB at 2. Now they will have to hope to tank for Tua or Trevor Lawrence.If they start the rebuild, what will they have of Barkley’s prime on the other side? What is the shelf life on RBs getting 350 touches?
It's a good question, but I wonder what the haul would have been last year. I don't have access to his contract prior to the big extension but I assume that he would have cost them something significant to trade last year. Put another way, I assume that the extension last year to bring his cap hit to $5.5 million was designed to save some cap space last year.So why not trade him last offseason before signing him to a big deal if there's any issues? We know they talked to the Patriots last offseason.
True, but Ol Dirty Bastard will always be live and uncut.OBJ also has the big advantage of being alive
Maybe I haven’t watched enough Tate, but wouldn’t Tate be a bit redundant with Landry?Why not just sign Golden Tate and keep #17 and Peppers?
I was talking to my buddy who's from Cleveland this morning about the AFC North. I think Baltimore is at 5 wins, Pittsburgh at 8 and 10 is in sight for the Browns. This was all before the OBJ trade, but I think I'd still set the O/U at 10 with a Sophomore QB.I think it's an overpay but one I'm fine making if I'm the Browns.
They've gotta be the favorites to win the AFC North at this point. What's their over under, 10?
And they just traded Kevin Zeitler to the NYG.Devil is in the OL details.
Of course he does.Rapaport says OBJ wants money added to his deal ala Antonio Brown.
As he should be. Cleveland still has a ton of money and OBJ can just sit out and make it a nightmare trade for them. Demand an extra 50 million, Mr. Big Vest.Of course he does.
The minute AB got resolved the question was posed whether OBJ would try to shake the Giants down. A not unreasonable question.
Maybe this was a factor in the Giants move, maybe it wasn’t, but I wanted no part of this stuff in Fox, even the threat of it. I don’t know who will be catching passes, but somehow we will muddle through.
OBJ couldn't possibly have committed all of those crimes. Coolio did some of that shit.OBJ also has the big advantage of being alive
Eventually the music stops. LeVeon Bell passed on franchise tender of 14.5. Word now is that the offers are coming in at 11 and 12.As he should be. Cleveland still has a ton of money and OBJ can just sit out and make it a nightmare trade for them. Demand an extra 50 million, Mr. Big Vest.