Oct 14-16 GW
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I'm guessing this is what set Klopp over the top yesterday. The non-call on the foul by Silva was pretty inexcusable, but the assistant was looking right at him when he lashed out at Mo:
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LOLVAR.
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LOLVAR.
There was confirmation from the VAR official that the City goal would also have been ruled out for Haaland’s foul on Allison who had both hands on the ball.
Anthony Taylor had himself a game. In a space of two minutes he blew three big consecutive calls in City’s favour. (The missed corner on Ederson’s save, the Fabinho shirt pull and the Haaland foul). Not to mention a game’s worth of various uncalled mugging.
Anthony Taylor had himself a game. In a space of two minutes he blew three big consecutive calls in City’s favour. (The missed corner on Ederson’s save, the Fabinho shirt pull and the Haaland foul). Not to mention a game’s worth of various uncalled mugging.
He seems like the kind of ref that is relying on VAR.. and he tried to be more lenient with 50/50 challenges but ended up allowing a free for all.
I'm with Taylor on the Alisson foul. Two hands does not constitute control. That's still a live ball for me. We drill and drill and drill on those situations as goalkeepers. I don't think it was physically possible for Alisson to hold on, but I also don't think Haaland can be faulted for going after what is essentially a loose ball at that point.
I wasn’t livid about the goal being called off but I’d have lost my mind if they took away the goal for Haaland playing the ball. Alisson never had it, that would have been idiotic.
The problem with his 50/50 standard was highlighted by the Fabinho call. He had clearly set a standard of allowing a very physical match. In the abstract what Haaland did is clearly a foul but in the context of the actual match that kind of stuff was being let go for both sides all over the place. Then there’s a goal and an entirely new standard is retrospectively adopted and the goal is called off. It’s just an absolutely untenable way to allow a match to proceed in regards to viewership. Yesterday we City fans suffered but it could just as easily have been Liverpool having a goal ruled off for some physical play in the build up — it was that kind of match and that kind of match is fine, maybe even great, but you have to somehow hold that standard when you go to Var and then the absurdity is too high. You’d have to ask everyone watching to not see the blatant grab and tug and ignore it. Which is yet another reason to bin Var imo or to stop reviewing for fouls in the build up. It creates too many weird and lawyerly situations and the sport suffers for this constant problem of goals not being goals. It’s anathema to the enjoyment of the sport that when that ball goes in I’m stopping my kids from celebrating because I know it’s going to var review
The issue for me is that this was somehow a clear & obvious error. It wasn’t. Taylor saw it and decided it was acceptable in the context of a match allowed to be overly-physical. It’s like a different ref with a different standard intervening into the match. Not that I condone Taylor’s approach yesterday - we were lucky that the skill level was high enough to overcome the bullshit and put on a highly entertaining affair.
Same is my complaint about the PK given to Forest for a physical take down on a corner when the review was for a handball. If the VAR refs are allowed to look for any foul in a corner, then every single one will end in a PK or a chalked of goal.
Same is my complaint about the PK given to Forest for a physical take down on a corner when the review was for a handball. If the VAR refs are allowed to look for any foul in a corner, then every single one will end in a PK or a chalked of goal.
Haaland grabbed his shirt.. it’s a clear foul even with physical play. There’s no question it was a foul in any context.. it’s not physical play when you’re tugging on shirts.. Haaland is typically the epitome of solid physical play.. this wasn’t that IMO.
Also Salah was clearly fouled with no call.. it’s not like the match was one way traffic of bad calls/non calls… not that you’re saying that. I do think you’re obviously seeing this through light blue tinted glasses though.
With that said, I don’t like the use of VAR to go back a minute or two to review everything as play is continuing or for the build up of a goal. Arsenal have had two pks called against them a minute and a half after the offense happened this year… the pk in the US women’s match against England.. same thing. VAR is starting to feel like another fickle tool that allows wiggle room for corruption instead of what it’s intended for.. if it’s used this way going into the future it needs to go away and only be used at the goal line. Refs need to do their jobs in real time at the time of the offense.. I know it’s harder because it’s live action, but you can’t do this in any other sport.. imagine if out calls at first were reviewed after the next batter.. the only comp is on the buildup to hockey goals and it’s awful there too.
Regarding the Allison potential foul. I’m reminded of this Schmeichel incident
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