Odell Beckham Jr.

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GreyisGone said:
I must have missed the part of football that uses a bat. And Schefter says "and were motioning with them towards Odell Beckham Jr. while making comments to him, per a league source. ". Which, admittedly is vague but is followed up by saying he felt threatened. And that there is video. So I suppose we will find out.

For the record, I think both he and Norman are douchebags.
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This was all "pre-game" so I assume bat was in the locker room at game time. I have no problem with a player swinging a bat on the sidelines and I think it would be setting crazy precedent to punish a player for making verbal threats on the field (if any were even made), which I assume happens nearly every week without league punishment. There's nothing to see here.

Of course, given Goodell's nuanced understanding for how to bring about culture change, penchant for reacting to media narratives and desire to restore parity at all times, he'll probably have Norman executed by Ted Wells after the SB.
 
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Did people hate Beckham before yesterday? The helmet spear was bad and he deserves to be suspended. But across the football internet there's an almost weird level of pleasure in Odell getting some comeuppance today as if it's overdue. Even with the bills punch it's surprising how much hate there is for a player of his caliber.
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I didn't hate him but I didn't love him either. To borrow a phrase, I just got severe "douche chills" watching him play the game yesterday.
 
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Yeah, my first question was whether this was something they did specifically for OBJ or is it a pregame ritual they do for every game?

They should have just stuck to a hype dance to scare the other team.
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CB Bene Benwikere has carried a bat out during introductions before but he's hurt and out for the season so other guys are bringing the bat out now to "honor" him or show they're thinking about him. He explained it on his Twitter this afternoon.

https://twitter.com/BigPlayBene
 
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Excuse machine getting revved up already from the league's own media conglomerate:

https://twitter.com/RichEisenShow

https://twitter.com/deionsanders

Deion claiming that the trash-talking from Norman to Odell invovled "sexuality slurs" and that he "understands" why he did what he did. Steve Mariuci saying "the coach doesn't see what the fan sees... no way Tom Coughlin saw the things we saw." on Odell vs. Norman. Laughable. They're cushioning the landing pad for when the league fines Beckham later today and issues a stern warning.
 
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Good. He will appeal. I hope it is summarily rejected and the Giants lose next week.

Coughlin covering for his crap is pitiful.
 
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Flip a coin whether its upheld, but certainly justified. Id give the Steeler OL a game too.
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Yup. Steeler OL should get at least a game as well.

But NFL is a PR league so I doubt it. They don't care what a player does unless and until the media gets a hold of it.
 
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Leaving the well-deserved suspension for targeting aside, why can't it just be a 23-year old acting immature? Which I consider a pretty common occurence in our society.
 
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You can't take the ruining that generation angle here without also pointing out that Turrable's immediate defense of Beckham centered on coolness but also that "Norman was doing bad stuff too".
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Don't get it twisted, I like Norman too. Unlike Finnegan he can back his shit-talk up. My "immediate defense" was that the game was fun as shit to watch, at least from a neutral POV. I know for damn sure I'm rooting to see those two matched up again in the playoffs.

As for the "style over substance" shit, I mean, that's just silly. The stats are all there.
 
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No. The rules for on field are well established. Appeal is Tuesday if it follows the rule book. Decision very soon afterwards.
 
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Don't get it twisted, I like Norman too. Unlike Finnegan he can back his shit-talk up. My "immediate defense" was that the game was fun as shit to watch, at least from a neutral POV. I know for damn sure I'm rooting to see those two matched up again in the playoffs.

As for the "style over substance" shit, I mean, that's just silly. The stats are all there.
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Because there are equally talented or better receivers out there without the drama, but they don't make cool one handed catches that can be watched a billion times on Vine.
 
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Because there are equally talented or better receivers out there without the drama, but they don't make cool one handed catches that can be watched a billion times on Vine.
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Now there's a haircut you could set your watch to!
 
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Eli is on with Francesa now, and mostly defending OBJ, (by saying a lot of calls not called on Norman) but did call the head to head a "cheap shot we could do without".
 
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Because there are equally talented or better receivers out there without the drama, but they don't make cool one handed catches that can be watched a billion times on Vine.
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I'm persuaded that part of the varying responses is generational. For someone with dim memories of Darryl Stingley like me, this is not the least bit funny. And when the phat fan of NY Giantdom -- an 800 pound gorilla with an 8000 pound mic -- goes off on everyone in the organization, from the owner, through his BFF Marine Colonel head coach, through (egads!) Eli no less, it ought to give people pause.

Francesa was right. ODB has essentially hijacked the team, and his play represents not only reckless and dangerous football, but losing football. All about me -- yea.
 
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I had not seen the Wallace hit until now. Worse than Beckham's.
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Much and it caused a player to miss the rest of the game.

Just another example of why the NFL league office needs some house cleaning. No consistency. Everything based on whining and headlines.
 
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Flip a coin whether its upheld, but certainly justified. Id give the Steeler OL a game too.
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I just noticed that the decision was made by Merton Hanks (God, I loved that guy, and that neck ...) and that the appeal will go to Derrick Brooks or James Thrash.
 
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I'm persuaded that part of the varying responses is generational. For someone with dim memories of Darryl Stingley like me, this is not the least bit funny. And when the phat fan of NY Giantdom -- an 800 pound gorilla with an 8000 pound mic -- goes off on everyone in the organization, from the owner, through his BFF Marine Colonel head coach, through (egads!) Eli no less, it ought to give people pause.

Francesa was right. ODB has essentially hijacked the team, and his play represents not only reckless and dangerous football, but losing football. All about me -- yea.
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The phat fan line confuses me, I have no idea.

I agree wholeheartedly that what Beckham did was a terrible thing and his behavior deserves to be punished. I'm just chiding Turrable because we are one of the few true millennials on the board.
 
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The phat fan line confuses me, I have no idea.

I agree wholeheartedly that what Beckham did was a terrible thing and his behavior deserves to be punished. I'm just chiding Turrable because we are one of the few true millennials on the board.
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Francesa weighs 260 if he weighs an ounce. And he is relatively short.
 
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Ray Lewis saying he spoke with OBJ and basically stating that comments from Norman were homophobic.

Said "Personal attacks." "Questioning your manhood." "This goes much deeper than football.
 
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Ray Lewis saying he spoke with OBJ and basically stating that comments from Norman were homophobic.

Said "Personal attacks." "Questioning your manhood." "This goes much deeper than football.
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And Ray would lead us to believe that everything -- and I mean everything -- verbal is not fair game during a game? Please.

The rationalization, oblique and indirect though it may be, is bullshit. And the purveyors of it know it, otherwise they would not be oblique and indirect.
 
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I think we can all assume someone called him a word that rhythms with "tag". my football carer peaked as a backup gunner in HS and *I* can tell you that word is used pretty regularly. It blows my mind that a professional athlete at the highest level is bothered by a word that a huge majority of football players use effortlessly.

What next? Is an African American player going to complain to the official about another African American player calling him the N word?
 
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Meanwhile, the National Athletic Trainers' Association brought us this in the first two sentences of a position statement 11 years ago:

"Catastrophic cervical spine injuries ... resulting in quadriplegia ...are among the most devastating injuries in all of sports. In football, the primary mechanism for these injuries is axial loading that occurs, whether intentionally or not, as a result of head-down contact and spearing..."
 
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Didn't the NFL have a no naughty words policy a couple years ago? What happened to that?
 
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HS gunner days? I don't see any relevance. I was speared and hit after the whistle in HS too. Doesn't make it right or is it in the least bit relevant.

If Norman used a slur, he should be called on it. Just like Rondo was in the NBA.
 
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