People calling Brissett a "bridge QB" are incorrect. A bridge QB is a guy we could envision starting all season because FA/draft didn't bring us anyone. He's not a bridge. He's a backup. He'd be here to get some maturity into the QB room and start a few weeks if they decide to bring a rookie QB along slowly and then help mentor that guy. If the Pats come out of FA with Brissett they are 100% drafting a QB at #3.
I see Flacco being the better bridge 1B bet based on his play down the stretch. And he’s said that he’s looking for starting opportunities, so a clear path to QB1 plus working with AVP again might make the Pats an attractive destination.
This, exactly. Brissett is the perfect guy to sign if you want him to start 0, 2, 4, 6, or even 8 games, and be ok with benching him whenever you're ready to start the rookie.
I'd also say, that definition of Bridge QB makes no sense to me. Bridge QB to me is the guy you get to bridge the gap until a young QB is ready. If you don't have a young QB your QB isn't a Bridge QB, he's just a QB, because he's not bridging anything because there is nothing on the other side, that's just your QB now.
If Maye goes 2 and they don't like Daniels, I don't mind that alternative with Fields. With Fields, you get 2 years to continue to build up the offense around the QB while also looking for the next long-term option.
This is going to be tricky for the Patriots if they like one of Daniels/Maye and not the other.
Apologies if I'm missing something in the transaction (pick swap maybe?) but otherwise Fields for 34 is atrocious.
Decent chance Alt is there, but honestly to me I don't see a huge gap until 9 or 10, Nabers has a very good chance of being better than Harrison, the other OTs are pretty close (maybe higher upside in some cases) to Alt.
It's what the price is going to be. Pretty consistently people have been saying they expect it to be either a really good 2nd or a 2nd and a 4th or 3rd.
I'll never understand your take on MHJ. Nabers is slower, much smaller, and might be a Z in the NFL. He's strong as shit, but might not be able to lose guys outside at this level. MHJ imo is the most can't-miss guy in the draft.
Yeah, its hard to see the logistics working for a Fields to Patriots trade. Poles also said that trading Fields early would be part of "doing right" by him. I don't think you say those things and then go back on them. In the end, both the Bears and Fields himself have incentives to get the trade done prior to FA if that is the road chosen. You don't want to wait until after FA when a bunch of QB-needy teams have gone in different directions already. Bears want the highest number of teams in the bidding and Fields will probably have some input on where he goes.
I don't think Nabers is slower personally, it seems pretty close based on projections we won't see since neither will run. I think MHJ is the best WR in the draft, I also think that Nabers (or Odunze) is a #1 WR and the difference isn't huge and based on past WR classes development you could get the same or better production out of one of the other elite guys. I think people get way too caught up in size at WR once you get over like 6', The best WR in the league is basically the exact same size as Nabers.
well the key in that situation is you think Fields can be that guy. You don't trade for Fields unless you think he can be your QB long-term. I don't so I wouldn't do the deal, but if the Patriots did the deal it would be because they planned for Fields to be their guy.
And there's no way, based on what we've seen Fields put on NFL tape that we could possibly think that. If that stuff was on tape, we'd hear about multiple teams being interested.
In Fields? THere are definitely multiple teams interested. I would guess CHI has at least 3 teams if not more very interested.
Atlanta has the most noise out there.
Kiper was one of the first who said he thought Daniels would go 2. He's probably not the best scout anymore, but he's probably the guy who gets the most info from teams
Here is the case for Fields:
Even ignoring the stats (which I agree paint a dim picture of him), he still has the same flaws he did when he came out. He doesn’t work through his progressions well, he takes a ridiculous amount of sacks, he takes way too long to throw the ball. Even with an elite WR, solid OL and some ok secondary weapons he didn’t exactly light it up last year.
Do you really think he gets more information than Jeremiah? He seems to be the most up on everything to me. (Although Kiper definitely still has sources)
They're the top 2. I think also someone did an analysis and Kiper's final mock actually performs the best in terms of exact matches (which usually come from inside info).
Also says they will likely be looking to trade Mac and Devante Parker.
What exactly could they get for Devante? This is arguably the deepest WR class in at least a decade. To think a team would give anything for a 31YO 4th WR with no ST value is laughable. Gee maybe we can include Juju while we are at it. To move Devante they would probably have to attach a draft pick to him. Better to just eat the contract with all their cap space.
Cap relief is the reason they want to trade him. They can save an additional $3 million in cap room relative to what would happen if they cut him outright. The return? I would expect a conditional 7th or a player in a comparable situation (someone whose team is dissatisfied and is looking to get out from under).
might be able to get a late pick for Devante. He's miscast as a #1 WR, but at his low cost (new team would get him at 1/$3m) he could help teams. Not sure what the WR class has to do with it. Sure it's deep, but not with 6'3" guys and even a "deep class" is a pretty small amount of players, the odds a 5th or 6th turns into a player who even sticks are pretty low, that the player can be trusted year 1 even less so. To me the easiest way to see why Devante might have value is to look at FA, there is very little out there. Looking at last year, a team getting Parker would be getting him for less than Nelson Agholor signed for.
Meh. This is the kind of shit that people say before every draft. The media machine makes the draft 90% more interesting than it ends up actually being.
His agent posted a video I think that said something like "you ready to go home?" But also just they have been apparently the most aggressive.
We will look back on this and be thankful the Patriots passed here...
It's all conjecture at this point. This is half the fun of the draft reading the stuff that comes out for different reasons.
I'm not sure I see the point in trading him, at least not now. Cap space is not an issue for the Pats. I'd bring him and JJSS and the rest into camp and see how it shakes out. With a rookie QB (hopefully) we will need some vet presence on offense. And who knows, maybe there's an injury on one of the contenders and you can trade him late in camp for a better pick in 2025 than you'll get now.
I think they plan to sign at least 1 WR in FA, Juju and Pop will be here, probably want to bring back Bourne over Parker and draft at least 1 WR. If you can save $3m for your FA spending and get say a Hardman type trade (maybe better) it makes some sense. Trading in camp is harder than in FA, teams already planned out their roster and cap. and I don't think they want to bring him into the season over developing younger guys.
