Cap.What does a blue hat mean?
Floating Pats logo for added next to the thumbs up. And one member of the entourage probably got a firm talking to! Nice work Jayden. Come freeze your ass off with the rest of us. Except it's mostly rain now.What is going on here? - Edit - Ah, I get it. Thought, so.
Yeah, I figured that. Especially after the interview I posted. All this stuff is nonsense.Floating Pats logo for added next to the thumbs up. And one member of the entourage probably got a firm talking to! Nice work Jayden. Come freeze your ass off with the rest of us. Except it's mostly rain now.
Ditto. This reminds me of that old cingular wireless commercial back when texting was a new thing and you had to pay by the textAs a high school teacher, this last 1/2 page has been hilarious. Thank you all.
Commitment to the bit is essential in performance artI've now read the Mortensen thread and I still don't care.
Not sure where that comes from. Simms is an engagement farmer, but looking back on his QB ratings.... his misses tend to be loving guys who bust (zach Wilson) more than being down on top guys who then succeed.Well this basically means Maye will be a superstar.
Basically, him always ranking Brady really low for clicks.Not sure where that comes from. Simms is an engagement farmer, but looking back on his QB ratings.... his misses tend to be loving guys who bust (zach Wilson) more than being down on top guys who then succeed.
Perry is not lying I'm sure. It's the person that is telling Perry this.Cap.
It's slang for a lie. Daniels is saying that somebody (likely he means Perry) is lying about him and the story is untrue.
Yeah, not only rating him really low but continually arguing that his take was correct.Basically, him always ranking Brady really low for clicks.
Agreed. I don't know how anyone who has listened to Perry for more than 1 minute thinks the guy is a liar or clickbait guy. He seems genuine and level headed.Perry is not lying I'm sure. It's the person that is telling Perry this.
Chris Simms is a horrible DB with an overdeveloped revenge instinct. He might be right or wrong on certain things, but it's always possible that he rated some guy higher or lower because the guy wore a blue tie to senior day and someone in blue tie stuffed Simms in a locker in 9th grade.Yeah, not only rating him really low but continually arguing that his take was correct.
Fair or not, I will never take a Simms prediction or projection seriously after that.
Not to mention he seems like a complete dirtbag. There was a segment where he and Florio were discussing Dolphins fans that created a GoFundMe to help support the family of a well known Dolphin fan who died suddenly. Simms legitimately argued that he didn't like this and, when pressed, admitted it was because the fan who died was mean to him on Twitter. It was one of the most insane things I have ever seen.
Yeah, Chris Simms' is literally firing darts at a board based on his feels. He gets some right, he gets some wrong, but there is absolutely no consistency to any of his positions.Chris Simms is a horrible DB with an overdeveloped revenge instinct. He might be right or wrong on certain things, but it's always possible that he rated some guy higher or lower because the guy wore a blue tie to senior day and someone in blue tie stuffed Simms in a locker in 9th grade.
Some people may rank him low, but nobody out there is ranking him below Nix and Penix. This is classic Simms.Maye has plenty of question marks. If people think his decision making is poor and his physical skills can't overcome them - which is a reasonable take - it's not crazy for a risk adverse person to simply rank Maye low.
I think the only question is do you think Maye/Daniels are good enough. Between now and 2029 there are hundreds of personnel moves to be made (we're likely to be bad next year, and can trade back in the draft with a QB-needy team, collect more picks, etc.). Young players will develop, we'll sign FAs, whatever. I don't think you do the reverse team building with a less than possibly elite rookie QB. If you want to settle for less, just go out and get the veteran QB, and build around him. The Purdy and Brady precedents are just not replicable.I also want to add, IMO the #1 question for both Maye and Daniels is: “do we think within 5 years these guys can keep up on a scoreboard with Mahomes, Allen, and Jackson?”
If the answer is “well, if the team around them is complete, then yes,” then the question goes to “okay, then in that scenario, where there is a “complete” and competitive team being fielded, is Maye/Daniels substantially more likely than Nix/Penix to push the Patriots past the Chiefs/Ravens/Bills?”
If the answer is “Maye/Daniels is so good they can cover for a few holes on the team to beat Mahomes/Allen/Jackson,” then you probably draft Maye or Daniels.
People aren’t trying to replicate Mahomes. They’re trying to find a QB that can go toe to toe with him (and the other non-Mahomes top QB’s in the league)Oh I completely agree with you.
I guess when you boil down my post what it’s really asking is “how strongly do we feel that Daniels or Maye is truly elite.” Like, can-eventually-beat-the-other-best-AFC-QB’s (with imperfect teams) levels of “elite.” If the answer is “not so strongly,” I lean more towards focusing on amassing high picks, building an incredible team (like the Niners did) and maybe leaning on a vet in FA to come along (if no 2nd+ round QB’s work out) to be a steady and semi-reliable hand.
The more I think about it, the more it feels “safer” to gamble on a basket of mid-tier FA QBs and/or 2nd round QB’s and surround them with top talent. It’s just a larger pond to fish from than hoping you strike gold on a high pick while so many other holes likely persist on your team.
Sometimes I think everyone is so infatuated with Mahomes that teams are trying to find his replica via the draft. I think that’s a mistake - there’s a reason those types of guys are called “once in a generation.” To me, catching that lightening in a bottle seems much more unlikely than just building a team the way the Niners and Detroit did.
I mean, twice now the Niners had Mahomes beat in SBs. Twice their coaches lost it for them. But I think teams and fans forget that bigger picture and instead keep playing roulette trying to replicate the absurd luck it takes to land a guy like Mahomes (or Brady).
If Maye/Daniels aren’t good enough, the question is will Quinn Ewers or Carson Beck be good enough? How long can you wait to try to find a QB?I think the only question is do you think Maye/Daniels are good enough. Between now and 2029 there are hundreds of personnel moves to be made (we're likely to be bad next year, and can trade back in the draft with a QB-needy team, collect more picks, etc.). Young players will develop, we'll sign FAs, whatever. I don't think you do the reverse team building with a less than possibly elite rookie QB. If you want to settle for less, just go out and get the veteran QB, and build around him. The Purdy and Brady precedents are just not replicable.
I certainly would not expect any of these guys to be Mahomes. I think you're looking for a guy that can grow to be Top 10 in the league. That gives you a reasonable chance, along with a good supporting roster, to get to the playoffs consistently and go on a run. If you're lucky he gets to be Top 5, like Burrow, Allen, Jackson, etc. Three SBs by age 28 is definitely a pipe dream.Oh I completely agree with you.
I guess when you boil down my post what it’s really asking is “how strongly do we feel that Daniels or Maye is truly elite.” Like, can-eventually-beat-the-other-best-AFC-QB’s (with imperfect teams) levels of “elite.” If the answer is “not so strongly,” I lean more towards focusing on amassing high picks, building an incredible team (like the Niners did) and maybe leaning on a vet in FA to come along (if no 2nd+ round QB’s work out) to be a steady and semi-reliable hand.
The more I think about it, the more it feels “safer” to gamble on a basket of mid-tier FA QBs and/or 2nd round QB’s and surround them with top talent. It’s just a larger pond to fish from than hoping you strike gold on a high pick while so many other holes likely persist on your team.
Sometimes I think everyone is so infatuated with Mahomes that teams are trying to find his replica via the draft. I think that’s a mistake - there’s a reason those types of guys are called “once in a generation.” To me, catching that lightening in a bottle seems much more unlikely than just building a team the way the Niners and Detroit did.
I mean, twice now the Niners had Mahomes beat in SBs. Twice their coaches lost it for them. But I think teams and fans forget that bigger picture and instead keep playing roulette trying to replicate the absurd luck it takes to land a guy like Mahomes (or Brady).
I definitely would not pass on this year's guys in the hopes of the 2025 class being better. Too much uncertainty. If they do pass, then they just need to go get Wilson or Fields. If they get another chance in 2025 or 2026 (Arch Manning etc.) to draft a top QB, then see then what makes sense.If Maye/Daniels aren’t good enough, the question is will Quinn Ewers or Carson Beck be good enough? How long can you wait to try to find a QB?
Wilson or Fields puts them in the same position of having to address the issue next year regardless so if they pass on Maye/Daniels they’re essentially hoping to draft someone in 2025 regardless of what stop gap option they plug in this year (Wilson, Fields, Minshew, Brissett etc)I definitely would not pass on this year's guys in the hopes of the 2025 class being better. Too much uncertainty. If they do pass, then they just need to go get Wilson or Fields. If they get another chance in 2025 or 2026 (Arch Manning etc.) to draft a top QB, then see then what makes sense.
Well you're assuming Wilson or Fields fail and/or that they don't sign them to a contract of longer than one year. With those guys either or both may be highly likely but it's not a certainty. In theory Fields has 10+ years in him, maybe 3 for Wilson.Wilson or Fields puts them in the same position of having to address the issue next year regardless so if they pass on Maye/Daniels they’re essentially hoping to draft someone in 2025 regardless of what stop gap option they plug in this year (Wilson, Fields, Minshew, Brissett etc)
Sure but you could argue the same for Minshew, Lock, Huntley, Brissett, Tyrod Taylor etc. In theory, any of those guys could be under contract in 2025. Maybe Zappe or Rourke will still be in the organizationWell you're assuming Wilson or Fields fail and/or that they don't sign them to a contract of longer than one year. With those guys either or both may be highly likely but it's not a certainty. In theory Fields has 10+ years in him, maybe 3 for Wilson.
In any case, I don't think teams plan (or really can rely) too much based on who might be available in future years. The system just isn't set up that way for guys not on your own team. Unlike the NBA or MLB, where that's more of a possibility.
One of Daniels’ real plusses is his improvement year over year. From the outside, he definitely looks like a guy that puts in the work and sees results on the field. Of course there are lots of compounding factors and touting Daniels’ improvement isn’t a knock on anyone else.If Brady taught us anything it's that a guy who is fanatically dedicated to improving and winning may end up being the better QB. This has got to be one of the tougher things to evaluate, but I sure hope it's at the top of Mayo/Wolf's list.
They’re not at all similar beyond being “winners” in collegeI get Mac Vibes from Mccarthy. I know I am crazy and please feel free to tell me why.
I think the most impressive thing about Daniels is the year over year improvement. 2023 Daniels clearly took his perceived flaws from 2022 and worked hard to improve those facets of the game and transformed himself from a potential day 3 pick to a potential top 3 pick.One of Daniels’ real plusses is his improvement year over year. From the outside, he definitely looks like a guy that puts in the work and sees results on the field. Of course there are lots of compounding factors and touting Daniels’ improvement isn’t a knock on anyone else.
Also a plus for Daniels is that he put up big numbers under Brian Kelly, who hasn’t overseen a decent passing attack since his Cincinnati days.
On the other hand, this pass looked insaneThey're really not similar prospects IMO aside from them being white QBs who are on the shorter side (i.e, not 6'4) and won a natty.
Edit: the google machine tells me they are both 6'3. Taller than I thought TBH.
Edit 2: I like McCarthy, but there are some throws where I am screaming NO before he even releases it, and those give me some pause (I know, all QBs have some of these). Here are two examples. The 2nd one was a particularly asanine decision IMO.
View: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qKxapERaPJU
View: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jNXkW-YB1V0