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Missed opportunity...



edit: great minds think alike, jsinger.
 

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Jokes aside, there seems to be some interesting, ahead-of-the-curve thinking going on here.

The article says that the estimated cost of the airplane is $10million (x2), vs the estimated $4million that teams spend to out-source. I am guessing the $10million is just acquisition costs and doesn't include any operational costs, though the article hints about the Pats chartering the planes out for other uses. I wonder if they would rent to the Sox, Bruins or Celtics for flights during the NFL off-season.

But more interesting to me are the possible advantages that owning your own plane could afford a team. From the article: "It is expected that team-owned planes will help give athletes a leg up on the recovery process, which is one of the areas that interested the Patriots."
 

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Jokes aside, there seems to be some interesting, ahead-of-the-curve thinking going on here.

The article says that the estimated cost of the airplane is $10million (x2), vs the estimated $4million that teams spend to out-source. I am guessing the $10million is just acquisition costs and doesn't include any operational costs, though the article hints about the Pats chartering the planes out for other uses. I wonder if they would rent to the Sox, Bruins or Celtics for flights during the NFL off-season.

But more interesting to me are the possible advantages that owning your own plane could afford a team. From the article: "It is expected that team-owned planes will help give athletes a leg up on the recovery process, which is one of the areas that interested the Patriots."
After reading the article - I'm left with a "Why did it take till now?"

Seems kind of like minor league baseball and teams deciding that feeding kids good food is a good idea.
 

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I believe the Detroit Pistons might have been the first team with their Roundball One airplane, but that was a long time ago. What's the depreciation schedule on a passenger jet?

If there is a TB12 recovery salon on the plane, will the NFL get involved?
 

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So where do I apply to fly this thing... Not joking. Any info on how to contact the Kraft Group outside the "contact us" on their homepage would be greatly appreciated.
 

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I don't even think it is that irrational that my first thought was "someone might try and shoot it down to stop them from winning so much."
 

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That's awesome - can I send to my friend who writes for Fallon?
Absolutely! The very kind words are much appreciated, everyone.

I am definitely using that. Well done sir.
Thank you, as well. Simple enough mistake since we're human, not to mention the nature of my handle and site demos, but it's ma'am, though sorry on this nitpickiness.
 

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Besides, just like surgery, I was glad to get such an opening.
The jets line was really good. This is one is better. Bravo.

Edit: on mobile, but you should take the slow clap, thunderous applause, whatever gif suits your fancy as a given if I was at a computer.
 

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I want to hang out in the airport in Pittsburgh and Denver listening to the locals when that mf pulls down the runway.
 

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Hey, no worries, all good, I've heard worse, not to mention it's the intent that matters, which was enormously positive. I viewed it like a Marcie to Peppermint Patty. :)

Besides, just like surgery, I was glad to get such an opening.
Holy shit. This was brilliant.

It seems logical in an era where teams are mini corporations that they would invest in something so crucial to the seasion (how many times do we hear about flying coast to coast causing fatigue or injury issues?), so I'm surprised they're the first.

It could also be a nice, if very minor, free agent recruiting tool too.

Late edit to fix autocorrects
 
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The article says that the estimated cost of the airplane is $10million (x2)
It does? I don't see that.

It says they can cost $5 million to $65 million depending on miles flown and condition and that the Patriots plans are extended range.

I'd guess they cost more than $10 million each.
 

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It does? I don't see that.

It says they can cost $5 million to $65 million depending on miles flown and condition and that the Patriots plans are extended range.

I'd guess they cost more than $10 million each.
It was edited after it was first posted. It originally said 10 million.
 

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This links to a report a few months back that I had forgotten. "While other teams have found themselves at the mercy of airlines that have jacked up the prices or yanked service altogether ..."

http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2017/08/08/patriots-buy-their-own-planes/

Article also makes the common sense point that the team will use the planes for maybe a dozen trips a year and can be rented to defray the cost.
 

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I believe the Detroit Pistons might have been the first team with their Roundball One airplane, but that was a long time ago. What's the depreciation schedule on a passenger jet?

If there is a TB12 recovery salon on the plane, will the NFL get involved?
"Aircraft used for qualified business purposes, such as Part 91 business use flights, are generally depreciated under MACRS over a period of five years or by using ADS with a six year recovery period"
 

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This links to a report a few months back that I had forgotten. "While other teams have found themselves at the mercy of airlines that have jacked up the prices or yanked service altogether ..."

http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2017/08/08/patriots-buy-their-own-planes/

Article also makes the common sense point that the team will use the planes for maybe a dozen trips a year and can be rented to defray the cost.
Oh boy, the possibilities are limitless. The Gronkowski, Inc. brain trust is whiteboarding some ideas right now. Once they wake up and find a white board, of course.
 

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Could make for a great way to come into Vegas on a gambling excursion with 20-30 of your closest rich friends that can afford the charter.
 

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Any concerns that they're flying 26 year old planes?
Aren't the charters that teams currently take also old?

I'm just surprised no one did this earlier in the NFL. But then I'm surprised NFL teams still make rookies sleep two to a room when on the road.
 

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I can't wait for the stories to drop when Jets/Giants/Bills rent the jets from us on weekends they travel when we have home games. Can you imagine being an opposing player riding on our jet to the west coast to play a game? I'd say the FA advantage will be real for a few seasons till a bunch of other teams do this. I'm still shocked HOF(?) owner Jerry Jones wasn't on this first.
 

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I can't wait for the stories to drop when Jets/Giants/Bills rent the jets from us on weekends they travel when we have home games.
You seriously think this would happen? I mean, other teams are freaked out enough being in the visiting locker room.
 
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