Patriots are bringing back the Pat Patriot uniform/helmet

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Wasn't that... every year?
Nope, they added those over the course of the 90s. When they debuted in '93 the Elvis was on the sleeve, and the numbers were red (which made them somewhat illegible).

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I think they added the HUGE Elvis's on the shoulders in '95, and made them much smaller in '98?
 

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Nope, they added those over the course of the 90s. When they debuted in '93 the Elvis was on the sleeve, and the numbers were red (which made them somewhat illegible).

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I think they added the HUGE Elvis's on the shoulders in '95, and made them much smaller in '98?
Yeah 93 and 94 weren't on the shoulder pads, but those unis were ugly. 95-99 were the soccer style striping, but had the big Elvis on the pads. Then 2000 were the new unis.

93 and 94 were distinctly different (and worse) than 95-99. I mean look at the picture you posted. That's such an ugly uniform. The number colors on the jersey and shoulders don't match. There are so many issues.
 

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I make this point pretty much 2x a year when we start the old Pat Patriot vs Flying Elvis fight. It's not necessarily the Flying Elvis that I hate, it's the silver fucking helmet. Seriously consider these photoshops and tell me they're not 100% better than the silver helmet:
 

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Yeah 93 and 94 weren't on the shoulder pads, but those unis were ugly. 95-99 were the soccer style striping, but had the big Elvis on the pads. Then 2000 were the new unis.

93 and 94 were distinctly different (and worse) than 95-99. I mean look at the picture you posted. That's such an ugly uniform. The number colors on the jersey and shoulders don't match. There are so many issues.
I thought they reduced the size of the shoulder Elvii at some point, but I must be wrong. My bad!
 

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I make this point pretty much 2x a year when we start the old Pat Patriot vs Flying Elvis fight. It's not necessarily the Flying Elvis that I hate, it's the silver fucking helmet. Seriously consider these photoshops and tell me they're not 100% better than the silver helmet:
yup, the white helmet is sneaky the best part. I’m also really partial to the shade of blue in the pat patriot uniforms, but the blue version of that Brady photoshop also looks really good.
 

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I make this point pretty much 2x a year when we start the old Pat Patriot vs Flying Elvis fight. It's not necessarily the Flying Elvis that I hate, it's the silver fucking helmet. Seriously consider these photoshops and tell me they're not 100% better than the silver helmet:
Absolutely yes. Also, I think the white-red-white shoulder striping on the blue jersey looks so much better than the current red-white-red.
 

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I make this point pretty much 2x a year when we start the old Pat Patriot vs Flying Elvis fight. It's not necessarily the Flying Elvis that I hate, it's the silver fucking helmet. Seriously consider these photoshops and tell me they're not 100% better than the silver helmet:
That one on the left is excellent, I'd sign up for that as a primary uniform. Although I'd put Pat back on the helmet so it looks less like the Bills.
 

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I like reds as an alternate only - I find the Patriots aren’t redcoats argument pretty logical - but it seems pretty clear the fanbase prefers Pat to Elvis. I think the team is due for a more significant shakeup than the last couple years of changes (though for the most part I actually really like the current primary jersey). I hope at some point they take a more hybrid approach to a redesign.
 

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Yeah 93 and 94 weren't on the shoulder pads, but those unis were ugly. 95-99 were the soccer style striping, but had the big Elvis on the pads. Then 2000 were the new unis.

93 and 94 were distinctly different (and worse) than 95-99. I mean look at the picture you posted. That's such an ugly uniform. The number colors on the jersey and shoulders don't match. There are so many issues.
the 94 jersey was way better than the 93 and they changed from red numbers to white. I have an authentic apex one Bledsoe. I like that one better than the 95-99 version.
 

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I make this point pretty much 2x a year when we start the old Pat Patriot vs Flying Elvis fight. It's not necessarily the Flying Elvis that I hate, it's the silver fucking helmet. Seriously consider these photoshops and tell me they're not 100% better than the silver helmet:
Sign me up 1000% for the Edelman uniform for home games, white helmet with the flying Elvis, blue jersey, white pants, their current white jersey/blue pants on the road again with the white helmet and the flying Elvis and they'd be in business.

If they want to break out the red jersey with the Pat Patriot helmet at home a few times a year, then fine.

That top picture uniform is tremendous; the current all blue with silver helmet is horrendous.

If they did that,
 

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Did anyone hear what happened to change the timeline and allow this to happen in 22? Prior to this week, my understanding was the helmet rule didn't change until 23.
 

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Pat Patriot would be fine as a child’s mascot but is the worst logo in professional sports. It’s like if the Phillies put a gigantic picture of the Phanatic on their jerseys.

I like the Flying Elvis on a white helmet. Not that it’s a great logo in itself, but it’s not a child’s cartoon, and it does have a lot of positive history associated with it.
 

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Did anyone hear what happened to change the timeline and allow this to happen in 22? Prior to this week, my understanding was the helmet rule didn't change until 23.
Some teams aren’t able to roll out to ‘23 (Bucs and Eagles) because Nike didn’t have the original color palettes in their inventory weren’t able to obtain them in time for this season. Maybe some kind of copyright/trademark issue.
 

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Some teams aren’t able to roll out to ‘23 (Bucs and Eagles) because Nike didn’t have the original color palettes in their inventory weren’t able to obtain them in time for this season. Maybe some kind of copyright/trademark issue.
Also might have had too recent of a change. There is a buffer for how often a team is allowed to change completely/alterations. Forget what it is, but there is a minimum number of years required for uniform changes.
 

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Some teams aren’t able to roll out to ‘23 (Bucs and Eagles) because Nike didn’t have the original color palettes in their inventory weren’t able to obtain them in time for this season. Maybe some kind of copyright/trademark issue.
Also, supply chain issues are a big factor.
 

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I like reds as an alternate only - I find the Patriots aren’t redcoats argument pretty logical - but it seems pretty clear the fanbase prefers Pat to Elvis. I think the team is due for a more significant shakeup than the last couple years of changes (though for the most part I actually really like the current primary jersey). I hope at some point they take a more hybrid approach to a redesign.
The colors are from the American flag. Red white and blue. They are not American Revolution re-enactors. Realism is not relevant. The Red Sox do not always wear red socks, bears do not have a B on their chest, vikings were not purple, bison do not live in Buffalo.
 

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Those uniforms are gorgeous. Sure we had some bad seasons in them, but we also had some good ones as well (1976, ‘78, and ‘85 come to mind). And they have character. I don’t mind the current logo and unis, but they’re pretty soulless.
76 and 78 were the sleeve stripes. 85 was the shoulder stripe, which was a "back to the 60s" move; made when Ron Meyer took over.
 

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Shoulder stripe >>>>>> sleeve stripe
Definitely.

I would like to see a comment from someone associated with the team as far as what logo sells better. Also, which jersies (the red ones up to now at least have diddlysquat to do with Pat Patriot).
 

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Definitely.

I would like to see a comment from someone associated with the team as far as what logo sells better. Also, which jersies (the red ones up to now at least have diddlysquat to do with Pat Patriot).
They're bringing back the shoulder stripes must say something. They must be better sellers.
 

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The colors are from the American flag. Red white and blue. They are not American Revolution re-enactors. Realism is not relevant. The Red Sox do not always wear red socks, bears do not have a B on their chest, vikings were not purple, bison do not live in Buffalo.
And my favorite: LA's not really known for its lakes.
 

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I'll add to the chorus that the silver helmets should be history. I wouldn't mind a throwback to the 1960 tri-corner hat logo for an alternate. Of course, there's also the first iteration of the flying Elvis that was shelved in 1979.



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You can find lots of interesting designs when googling Patriots uniform concept or whatever. These would all be upgrades IMO while maintaining the current jerseys

Here's one with the current home jerseys, white helmet, white pants



Here's the current unis but with gray pants (and if they brought back these pants, they'd look pretty good with the white jerseys too IMO)



Here's a spin on the current unis but adding white pants and red jerseys for alternate looks (and switching to a white helmet)

 
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You can find lots of interesting designs when googling Patriots uniform concept or whatever. These would all be upgrades IMO while maintaining the current jerseys

Here's one with the current home jerseys, white helmet, white pants

I thought I was going to like this solution the best, including the white version, but looking at it they feel too Bills-y.
 

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The colors are from the American flag. Red white and blue. They are not American Revolution re-enactors. Realism is not relevant. The Red Sox do not always wear red socks, bears do not have a B on their chest, vikings were not purple, bison do not live in Buffalo.
I don’t totally disagree, but the redcoats quote is from Kraft I believe so I’ve talked myself into that viewpoint as a means to accepting it’s never gonna happen.
You can find lots of interesting designs when googling Patriots uniform concept or whatever. These would all be upgrades IMO while maintaining the current jerseys

Here's one with the current home jerseys, white helmet, white pants



Here's the current unis but with gray pants (and if they brought back these pants, they'd look pretty good with the white jerseys too IMO)



Here's a spin on the current unis but adding white pants and red jerseys for alternate looks (and switching to a white helmet)

Something’s a little off with these to me, I think something with the stripes, but everything here is damn close to what I’d like to see.

scrolling through the full list of submissions to the uni watch contest, I really like this too:

View: https://flic.kr/p/2ivzc46
 

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I don’t totally disagree, but the redcoats quote is from Kraft I believe so I’ve talked myself into that viewpoint as a means to accepting it’s never gonna happen.


Something’s a little off with these to me, I think something with the stripes, but everything here is damn close to what I’d like to see.

scrolling through the full list of submissions to the uni watch contest, I really like this too:

View: https://flic.kr/p/2ivzc46
Yeah they’re not the exact current jerseys due to the stripes but you get the idea. I love them with the throwback pants.
 

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They just need to introduce a set of gray pants with the current uniform set as suggested above, and then give us a few weeks with the throwbacks, including maybe an all white set, which would look really cool the weeks the Pats play the Dolphins in Miami and they use their throwbacks. (I prefer the old Grogan-era all whites, but if they want to use the old white jerseys with the red pants for that game, maybe play a lot of John Lennon's music into and out of commercial breaks.)
 

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Whenever I see the mockups with the Flying Elvis with the white helmet I realize it's the white helmet I love...
 

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This would never happen, but this combo of Pat Patriot and Elvis is kind of cool

Wow, I like everything about this; white helmet with a brand new logo, blue and white at home, all white on the road, then the alternates thrown in.

This looks great.
 

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I like the sleeves and the re-introduction of the TV (shoulder) numbers.

What I don't like about anything with the shoulder stripes (official name at one time was UCLA stripe) is that the jerseys are made differently than they were in the 60s and 70s and that stripe doesn't go around at all, just kind of sits on top and in a lot of cases leaves no room for the numbers.
 

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I, apparently, need to find myself some more free time. Never have I ever looked at a uni and said "yah, it is ok, but I would prefer the shoulder stripes inversed"
 

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Whether they bring back Pat the Patriot a lot or not, just please get rid of these current uniforms as soon as the league lets them. I hate the all blue look and I feel like the blue they wear now is deeper than the previous ones. I mainly apparel with Pat the Patriot on them, I just like them better than the Elvis look. I was born in 1983 so those uniforms were almost gone by the time I can remember. I just like the look better, I don't have the baggage of the team sucking in them like the older fans though.