Sadly yes. But not because Sanu isn't a good player. He is. He's been good everywhere he's gone. He played well in NE at the start then got hurt. He will be good for someone this season. Bummer it won't be for NE (unless Jed's idea comes to fruition). But it does open up a spot for a younger guy.Thus closing the books on one of the worst trades of this era, unfortunately.
This could be a trickle-down thing, too - for example, if they're high on some of the young defensive guys, maybe they needed a WR who plays ST so that they can cut Bethel to make room for one (who's the young guy who keeps making plays at CB? Or even the converted TE who's an edge rusher now?)I wonder if the lack of preseason sealed his fate in New England. With less time to evaluate various positions, Belichick will opt for versatile guys who can play multiple spots. Sanu probably got edged out by several guys at the back end of the roster who can possibly play special teams in addition to their primary depth roles. Some of those guys might have flamed out in actual preseason game situations but they’ll now learn on the fly in real games that matter. The Pats don’t have the luxury to keep a one-dimensional guy like Sanu who didn’t even get a chance to get real reps this year.
I’m not a fan of Sanu, but I think he got caught in a tough spot this year.
YuckWhat do we think our 3 WR sets are now?
Edelman
Harry
Byrd?
Thanks - made me laugh!Brady the GM is killing the team Mike!
Jeff ThomasWhat do we think our 3 WR sets are now?
Edelman
Harry
Byrd?
Gunner? They went with Edelman/Amendola in 3 WR package for awhile so they don't seem to have a problem with going with essentially 2 slot guys.What do we think our 3 WR sets are now?
Edelman
Harry
Byrd?
I wonder if they go with "whoever's best in space" (not sure who that is, maybe Gunner) and really try to amp out the jet sweeps and option runs to take advantage of Newton.Gunner? They went with Edelman/Amendola in 3 WR package for awhile so they don't seem to have a problem with going with essentially 2 slot guys.
Already forgotten about Ras-IR Dowling, huh?welp, can't imagine a second round pick used for much worse.
Second round picks may bust more than people think, but if you only get half of a bad season out of your second round pick, then cut them the following training camp, that's not good. That would put Sanu in the conversation for worst second round pick in Patriots history. Here's the list of all of the Pats' second round picks. Even guys like Ras-I Dowling and Terrence Wheatley managed to play more games in a Patriots uniform than Sanu.When people talk about going for it now, not letting the window close on Brady/BB, this is exactly the kind of move that they're looking for -- a slight overpay at a position of need that you needed to improve if you were going to have a shot at the superbowl.
It worked out very poorly. Maybe if he wasn't injured it would have worked better; who knows.
It's also not quite as bad as people say because second round picks aren't as valuable as people think. The reason the Pats have so many draft busts in the second round is that every team has a lot of second round draft busts-picks bust at roughly fifty percent league wide in the second. (Still a shitty deal though).
That depends. Edelman can play all 3 roles. Harry was used exclusively at X last year and from reading the tea leaves this year, and Byrd is probably a guy can play each position. I still don’t know who does what at which receiver role. They have a lot of guys including Harry whose best true role is in the slot. Gunner was getting use outside too. Seems like BB is throwing everything at the wall and seeing what sticks. Given who they have I don’t blame him.What do we think our 3 WR sets are now?
Edelman
Harry
Byrd?
But even if you have an underperforming 2nd rounder, you have that player under team control for 4 seasons (lets say 64 games), at a discounted rate. And maybe if the team is disappointed they can trade out in years 2-4, and salvage it with a player or pick. It seems the Pats traded those 64+ games for 8 games at full MSRP. And then they bailed as there were no trade takers for Sanu.When people talk about going for it now, not letting the window close on Brady/BB, this is exactly the kind of move that they're looking for -- a slight overpay at a position of need that you needed to improve if you were going to have a shot at the superbowl.
It worked out very poorly. Maybe if he wasn't injured it would have worked better; who knows.
It's also not quite as bad as people say because second round picks aren't as valuable as people think. The reason the Pats have so many draft busts in the second round is that every team has a lot of second round draft busts-picks bust at roughly fifty percent league wide in the second. (Still a shitty deal though).
So, you're saying the meal was awful ... and such small portionsBut even if you have an underperforming 2nd rounder, you have that player under team control for 4 seasons (lets say 64 games), at a discounted rate.
Almost.So, you're saying the meal was awful ... and such small portions
Not for the most part. Amendola would get like 250 yards when Edelman was healthy.Gunner? They went with Edelman/Amendola in 3 WR package for awhile so they don't seem to have a problem with going with essentially 2 slot guys.
He updated his IG and removed Pats from his descriptionJeff Thomas
He had no guaranteed money due this year, so they save his whole $6.5 million salary I believe.Seems like a nice guy, wish it worked out. BB did give him a few extra days to latch on somewhere.
What's this save us on cap?
He was like the Pats version of Jay Payton.There was nothing seen or heard from this guy since they signed him indicating that he was going to help. Good riddance.
Belichick has pretty much never drafted for current team needs for better or worse.So, the Patriots had more information on Sanu than any of us, and still didn't draft any WR in what was regarded as a loaded WR class?
It's fine they got a 30 year old safety who looked way bigger than the kids at Fitchburg StateSo, the Patriots had more information on Sanu than any of us, and still didn't draft any WR in what was regarded as a loaded WR class?
It's going to be Ross sticking on the roster.He updated his IG and removed Pats from his description
Not just replying to you. But a few things. First off I feel you. Re Dugger: 1) He was someone who really took off in the meeting rooms and at the senior bowl. His tape was good for a non FBS program but had some glaring issues. He was always a bit of a risk as a prospect. But he’s only 24 and age doesn’t matter if you’re a 6’2” 220 pound safety who can run a 4.5 flat. He’s also explosive. He’s in the top 10% of athletes at his position. Even if he’s maxed out he is an adonis and body beautiful so it doesn’t matter. Age might impact the tail end of his second contract if he gets there. If he doesn’t get there it won’t be his age that was the road block. It’s not a big deal imo.It's fine they got a 30 year old safety who looked way bigger than the kids at Fitchburg State