Pats QB Options
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If your erection lasts more than two hours yadda yadda yadda...
https://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2021/04/28/report-patriots-talked-to-falcons-about-trading-up-to-no-4-likely-to-draft-justin-fields/
https://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2021/04/28/report-patriots-talked-to-falcons-about-trading-up-to-no-4-likely-to-draft-justin-fields/
I want The Hopster to do it, just to see whether he can fit the entire draft order in the title
Couldn't the same article be written in reference to almost any team? Unless Howe has more information that the talks are getting serious.
If that is the case, could Gilmore be in the mix for a trade with Atlanta?
If that is the case, could Gilmore be in the mix for a trade with Atlanta?
Some people say Mac Jones is so good he should be the 2nd & 3rd pick...
Others think he looks like a Lego:
View: https://mobile.twitter.com/All22_Addict/status/1387411148224356352
Not unless Julio Jones is coming back the other way ... Falcons are in cap-space Hell
They can't trade Julio until June 1st without incurring like a $33m cap hit, so he can't really be part of a trade for #4. JCJ instead of Gilmore maybe...
I've been hearing a lot more about Patriots moving up to somewhere from 7-11 than 4 lately, though.
This is just referring to the Jeff Howe story that was posted here this morning:https://sonsofsamhorn.net/index.php?threads/pats-qb-options.32321/page-54#post-4392492
Phew, I thought you were talking about the Uber driver for a moment there... Was worried I might need to live up to some impossible expectations in the future.
Maybe it should be one of our prominent experts like @SMU_Sox ? Or perhaps… the one and only @Sille Skrub ???
I mean that always made the most sense to me, Pitts lining up as the slot receiver in ATL makes that offense a living nightmare for opponents. The defense might need work, but they'd legitimately beat opponents into the ground offensively with Pitts. And with the way that that offense would score, life would get easier on the D as they'd just need to focus on pass defense (a la the Manning Colts).
Agree 100%--for a team that is not drafting a QB (and Atlanta seems like they are rolling with Ryan for now), Pitts is likely the best player in the draft.
As much as some people love JG...If the quote of someone saying "we didn't do all this (free agency) for Cam *** Newton" I sure as heck hope they didn't do it for Jimmy *** G either. That would be severely disappointing.
Of all the quarterback outcomes possible, this to me is the least exciting
They could only do that through the Niners or with the Niners’ consent, so interested if anybody else picks this up.
I'll be so fucking pissed if they acquire JG. I can't even put into words how disappointing that would be.
And FUCK trading even a used Q-tip for him.
And FUCK trading even a used Q-tip for him.
In the words of the esteemed Cardi B in the influential ouvre 'Motorsport', "That's not a reliable source."
Actually there a good chance this is based on something true - the Patriots & like 5 teams probably have permission to discuss contract parameters with Jimmy G because a trade literally is never happening to any team at his current contract.
Actually there a good chance this is based on something true - the Patriots & like 5 teams probably have permission to discuss contract parameters with Jimmy G because a trade literally is never happening to any team at his current contract.
I trust this guy a lot more than Dale Arnold.
View: https://twitter.com/jeffphowe/status/1387559474710392839?s=21
View: https://twitter.com/jeffphowe/status/1387559474710392839?s=21
If you wanted to throw a little misinformation/smokescreen that might get teams thinking you're not trading up but also don't want to burn any relationships with reporters who actually cover the team...
Anyway, who the fuck knows at this point. Tomorrow night can't come soon enough.
Anyway, who the fuck knows at this point. Tomorrow night can't come soon enough.
It’s only 24 hours away, I’d fucking hope they didn’t need to sleep on it tonight
View: https://twitter.com/mysportsupdate/status/1387504555928301575?s=21
View: https://twitter.com/mysportsupdate/status/1387504555928301575?s=21
A certain uber driver couldn't agree more.
BB is going into this season with Stidham, Cam, and ? (possibly JG if the trade is cheap enough and can be restructured)
I think he hates having to be held hostage by the QB position.
All the more reason to just draft one in the first round and get it over with. I hope.
Yeah that could make sense, but it's a the opportunity cost of "cost-controlled possible upgrade at QB" v. "other great impact player"
Is there a really good pass rusher on the board?
I think BB might have a chip on his shoulder against QB-centric teams. I am basing this on nothing other than that's what I decided when TB12 left and I'm clutching!
JG with this O-Line, 2 headed TE-monster, Agholer, Bourne, and maybe a Waddle? It’s not bad...
It’s pretty bad for the 8 games Stidham will be forced to play when Jimmy gets hurt.
He'll give you a solid 2.5 games before ruptures, tears or blows out something.
I don't even a little want to see the Pats trade for the rights to restructure Jimmy's (ridiculous) contract. With the promise of Fields or Lance or a BB-endorsed Mac Jones still alive, I too would be extremely disappointed to see a trade in the next 22 hours.
But that said, if the first 5 QBs are off the board tomorrow and we haven't picked yet, are there any more realistic opportunities for good QB play in the next two seasons than JG? I still absolutely don't want to give up picks for him nor deal with the $$. Hell, I still think Cam Newton could lead this roster to the playoffs. But outside of squinting to see a Carr or Ryan trade in 12 months I don't have a lot of faith the next great Pats QB is someone outside this draft or Garoppolo unless we're waiting multiple seasons.
But that said, if the first 5 QBs are off the board tomorrow and we haven't picked yet, are there any more realistic opportunities for good QB play in the next two seasons than JG? I still absolutely don't want to give up picks for him nor deal with the $$. Hell, I still think Cam Newton could lead this roster to the playoffs. But outside of squinting to see a Carr or Ryan trade in 12 months I don't have a lot of faith the next great Pats QB is someone outside this draft or Garoppolo unless we're waiting multiple seasons.
Worth noting that Jimmy G wasn't particularly good last year be
I have the utmost faith that the next great Pats QB is not going to be Jimmy G. He's got maybe 20 good games to his credit in his entire career, he's not just constantly hurt, he's also not been consistently good when he's healthy. He might be the next league averagish part-time starter? I'd straight up rather have Cam for all his flaws.
I'm more with you than not, and I'd rather trade next year's first to move up than sign Jimmy for free. I suppose the point I'm really trying to make is the options with upside feel particularly limited. Where we may disagree is on how much upside Garoppolo has - I'm fairly high on 2016 or 2019 Jimmy taking a good Belichick roster far, and in the absence of truly better options I'm willing to overlook injury risk more but you're not wrong that he hasn't consistently been a worldbeater when healthy.
I think many people don't really appreciate the crappiness of a 2.7% career INT rate for a QB in this era, especially for a QB who has played with a lot of surrounding talent and almost never had to throw the ball a lot (only 5 career games with >35 passing attempts). Throw in 19 career fumbles in 32 starts for good measure.
No doubt. Some Pat's fans think he is the savior in waiting but there is a reason SF spent a HUGE amount to replace him.
and to think of all the local angst when he was traded away. Now the narrative is mostly "no thanks", we can do a lot better.
Oh god, no JG please. Injury history alone is enough to stay well away at (almost) any price.
On the other hand, I'm getting more excited about BB landing Fields or Lance.
I kept thinking that they should stay at #15 to pick someone like Tevin Jenkins or trade down to get OL and WR help.
Maybe it's the draft being just a day away but the idea of trading up to grab one of the top QBs—especially the Ohio signal caller—is really tantalizing.
On the other hand, I'm getting more excited about BB landing Fields or Lance.
I kept thinking that they should stay at #15 to pick someone like Tevin Jenkins or trade down to get OL and WR help.
Maybe it's the draft being just a day away but the idea of trading up to grab one of the top QBs—especially the Ohio signal caller—is really tantalizing.
Benjamin Allbright goes with Fields at 8 in a trade with Carolina
https://www.profootballnetwork.com/2021-nfl-mock-draft-1-round-albright/
https://www.profootballnetwork.com/2021-nfl-mock-draft-1-round-albright/
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