Pats Roster Planning: Offense

SeoulSoxFan

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BigSoxFan

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These rumors are fun but I say the general guideline is that the quoted account has 1. a blue mark and 2. more than 10k followers.

Not your fault, @BigSoxFan. Just would like to have less of Twitter rumors that really come and go.
Fair enough. I’m a Twitter novice so I can delete.
 

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You don't have to delete. It was fun to think about having Gallup on this team :)
Ha, always good to find another Gallup fan. Logically, doesn’t really make much sense to trade Gilmore for a guy who is an UFA next offseason though. But the thought of Gallup/Agholor flanking the TEs with Jules/Bourne/Meyers working the middle was enticing.
 

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In terms of depth if could very well be, but last year's starters were better (basically replace Brown with Thuney).
Generally agree, but some of that gap is filled by the difference between year 1 Onwenu and year 2 Onwenu. And none of the starters has been injury free, so the depth will likely become important.
 

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The rule of the NFL is if your depth isn't tested at some point, you are most likely going to the playoffs.

A lot of who gets there is determined by who had what key injuries at what positions and at what times.
 

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The rule of the NFL is if your depth isn't tested at some point, you are most likely going to the playoffs.

A lot of who gets there is determined by who had what key injuries at what positions and at what times.
My dad and I have a saying (for years and years running now): it's a league of attrition.
 

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What I had read about the "loss of the KVN (or Collins)" pick was because Byrd played more than expected. If that was true, it makes some sense that Byrd's play shouldn't have wholly negated the pick, but rather downgraded it from 4th to 5th.

But I have no idea what I am taking about.
 

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If you click the link, this is in the Orange County Great Park (that big orange thing in the background is a tethered observation balloon), in Irvine - just up the street from me.
 

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I laughed. What a bozo pick that was.
I'm not going to second guess the Pats from afar but this really is the easiest pats pick like ever to second guess. Not highly rated on scouts boards, the georgia kid was really kid, had right wing tatoos, the georiga kid was really good, highish pick for a kicker, hey did i mention the georgia kid was good after all?
 

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I get it that drafting an unheard of racist is a bad call - but there's not really any guarantee that Blankenship is actually a good kicker.

He played most of his games in domes/good weather & was only 1 for 3 from 50+, among the worst among regular kickers (Folk was 2 for 3). NFL kickers on the whole were 106 for 168 from 50+ last year, 63% on an average of over 5 attempts per team.

On the whole, NFL kickers hit 81% of their fgs from 40-49 & Blankenship hit 82%, playing in the aforementioned nice weather (Folk hit 92%).

NFL kickers hit 93% of their fgs from 30 to 39 yards - Blankenship hit 92% (Folk hit 100%).

Blankenship was above average in xps (96% compared to 93% for league & 91% for Folk), & hit all 10 of his kicks from under 30 (Folk was 6 for 6), but I don't see a single thing in his kicking profile that would imply that he would have been a good selection to be the kicker for a cold weather team.

Weird side note - one would expect kickers to be slightly better at extra points than they are at 30-39 yards fgs because on average the kick is a bit shorter & they can choose where to place the ball, but last year NFL kickers hit 92.989% of fgs from 30 to 39 & 92.969% of extra points.
 

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Like investing, you have to ride your winners and cut your losers early. At least BB is doing the latter here.
 

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I get it that drafting an unheard of racist is a bad call - but there's not really any guarantee that Blankenship is actually a good kicker.

He played most of his games in domes/good weather & was only 1 for 3 from 50+, among the worst among regular kickers (Folk was 2 for 3). NFL kickers on the whole were 106 for 168 from 50+ last year, 63% on an average of over 5 attempts per team.

On the whole, NFL kickers hit 81% of their fgs from 40-49 & Blankenship hit 82%, playing in the aforementioned nice weather (Folk hit 92%).

NFL kickers hit 93% of their fgs from 30 to 39 yards - Blankenship hit 92% (Folk hit 100%).

Blankenship was above average in xps (96% compared to 93% for league & 91% for Folk), & hit all 10 of his kicks from under 30 (Folk was 6 for 6), but I don't see a single thing in his kicking profile that would imply that he would have been a good selection to be the kicker for a cold weather team.

Weird side note - one would expect kickers to be slightly better at extra points than they are at 30-39 yards fgs because on average the kick is a bit shorter & they can choose where to place the ball, but last year NFL kickers hit 92.989% of fgs from 30 to 39 & 92.969% of extra points.
My only speculation (and am not a kicker by any means) could be that kickers have a little more time to prepare on FGs from 30-39 (i.e. if it's 3rd down from the 14, they know there's a good chance they're kicking the next play, unless they're Billy Cundiff), while TDs can be more sudden. (I guess the way to check would be to compare the XP% on TDs say greater than 10 yards vs ones on goal-to-go scores).
Or it's just statistical noise?
 

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This great news, and it's becoming harder and harder seeing them keep all 10 of their draft picks.