Pats Round 2 Pick #46: DE Keion "Let's Party" White
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He had 124 receiving yards & that was all in 2018. I can't imagine that would be a big part of their plan.
Been watching some of his tape on YT. I don’t have a refined eye like some here do when it comes to film study, but he looks like he struggles to shed his blocker and still needs to develop quick-win moves. I saw a lot of 4-5 second drop backs leading to coverage sacks. He doesn’t seem to get low enough to get underneath the blocker.
I don’t know. He didn’t seem overly explosive off the line. High-motor, but takes a while to get to the backfield IMO.
I could be wrong and I hope I am.
I don’t know. He didn’t seem overly explosive off the line. High-motor, but takes a while to get to the backfield IMO.
I could be wrong and I hope I am.
He's new to defense, he's gonna be raw. So everything from anticipating the snap, to technique, etc is still a work in progress with him. I think even he acknowledged that.
View: https://twitter.com/JohnALimberakis/status/1654235536427450382?s=20
Couple of my favorite of his highlights vs Clemson.
Couple of my favorite of his highlights vs Clemson.
Apologies for going AWOL the last couple of months. Moved cross-country. Very much looking forward to coming up to Boston for a Pats game this year.
Two things stood out to me last night.
1) His play-speed and recognition improved from college. That's huge.
2) He trimmed some of the sloppy weight he had and is still strong. He stood up a double team vs the run. That's phenomenal and an issue Wise has had. White dominated the run.
I don't want to overreact but I loved White coming out and he looked better last night vs NFL players than he did in college and improved in the two areas I had concerns about pre-draft!
Fuck it, it is optimism season, right? This young man is going to be a stud.
Two things stood out to me last night.
1) His play-speed and recognition improved from college. That's huge.
2) He trimmed some of the sloppy weight he had and is still strong. He stood up a double team vs the run. That's phenomenal and an issue Wise has had. White dominated the run.
I don't want to overreact but I loved White coming out and he looked better last night vs NFL players than he did in college and improved in the two areas I had concerns about pre-draft!
Fuck it, it is optimism season, right? This young man is going to be a stud.
Yeah, my biggest cause for concern with White was, despite the combine testing numbers, he wasn't particularly twitchy or explosive at Georgia Tech. He was both last night.
(I'll also add Anfernee Jennings showed the most twitch/explosion I've seen from him since before tearing up his knee at Alabama)
(I'll also add Anfernee Jennings showed the most twitch/explosion I've seen from him since before tearing up his knee at Alabama)
Yeah - 100% agree with you. What a fantastic group of edges they have!
I did that on purpose. I am not lying. Did my son being in high school also have something to do with it? Yes. But priorities.
I still can't believe White lasted until pick 46. He was invited to the 1st round, he has all the size and measurables you want, he has versatility, he is all business, smart, a hardworker... Crazy.
I am excited with the talent all along the D-line, especially paired with the edge rushers. If you dont have an elite quarterback, having a nasty set of Defensive lineman will usually guarantee you aren't out of many games.
This defense could be a menace.
This defense could be a menace.
View: https://twitter.com/tkyles39/status/1701222811912524200?s=20
I still can't believe they let him get to us at 46.
He is such a beast.
I still can't believe they let him get to us at 46.
He is such a beast.
Both specialists and Douglas are also looking strong.
And Mafi and Sow seemed pretty good yesterday as well.
Plus Douglas had 4 catches in 7 targets, Sow and Mafi started on an OL that kept Mac fairly clean. And if the field were an inch wider, we would be talking about Boutte too.
Man is a house. I know that he was seen by some as an Edge guy, but he really can take the whole pocket with him. Explosive and powerful. Big fan.
Yep. Looks like one hell of a draft so far. Even Boutte showed potential. Yes he needed to get his feet down but you can't look at him and not think, ok, there's something there. OBVIOUSLY it's super early. But the very early returns are tremendous.
White is less of a straight-ahead power rusher than I realized, wow. There’s some skill/bend there, granting he isn’t vintage Von Miller.
Loved the power and pursuit on this play by White
View: https://twitter.com/ezlazar/status/1701274976542687384
View: https://twitter.com/ezlazar/status/1701274976542687384
Just for perspective, Keion White is half way in size between Chandler Jones and Ty Warren coming out of college. ~20# either way, all three around 6'5". Look at that speed tho. Yikes. Good on you guys who were high on this kid.
edit: and Keion did three more reps of #225 than Ty.
edit: and Keion did three more reps of #225 than Ty.
Seemed like both him and Uche were used very situationally yesterday. I believe both had snap counts in the 30% range (which for Uche has been pretty typical for his career), and I can only assume this was by design to make sure they had guys who could break down better if Hurts decided to run.
Against Tua, I think we may see more of each guy next week.
Wow. He just manhandled the LT and then sprinted after Hurts. This kid....
If Barmore reaches the level we think he can, that's two absolute monsters on the D line.
Makes sense.
edit: FWIW, I hope that White starts stealing more of Judon's snaps. I didn't watch as closely as some of the savants here, but White seems to maintain much better contain in his rushes and has all of the east to west speed needed to chase guys. For every time Judon spikes a QB, it seems like there are two times when a tackle holds him and up pushes him inside while the QB waltzes down his side for 8 yards.
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View: https://twitter.com/mikekadlick/status/1833180896234446891
LOL.
Caption: DE Keion White was “randomly” drug tested by the NFL today following his 2.5-sack performance vs. the Bengals on Sunday.
He had 2.5 sacks yesterday (or 3 if you don't use half-sacks like PFF) and they were all in true pass sets. He was a demon pass rusher. Is this the beginning of a year 2 jump?
LOL.
Caption: DE Keion White was “randomly” drug tested by the NFL today following his 2.5-sack performance vs. the Bengals on Sunday.
He had 2.5 sacks yesterday (or 3 if you don't use half-sacks like PFF) and they were all in true pass sets. He was a demon pass rusher. Is this the beginning of a year 2 jump?
He looked like a monster, lining up all over the place and just wreaking havoc.
I'm excited to see what him and a recovered Barmore might do together one day. Those two rushing the passer and Gonzo locking down WR1 could be the cornerstones of a legit elite defense in years to come.
I'm excited to see what him and a recovered Barmore might do together one day. Those two rushing the passer and Gonzo locking down WR1 could be the cornerstones of a legit elite defense in years to come.
Super Trey Flowers vibes. And I really liked Trey Flowers. But he’s considerably bigger than Flowers, so might not be the best comp. But he can rush from several places on the line and has great burst.
He ate in true passing downs, which is a good indicator of his ability.
He ate in true passing downs, which is a good indicator of his ability.
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Thanks for sharing that. Hopefully White and the Pats can keep confusing better OLines as the season goes on.
To echo that commentator, if White develops into a stud and Barmore can return healthy, they are going to be the backbone of a great defense moving forward.
I don't know why I have always thought of Barmore as being the new Vince Wilfork, but in terms of size, he's almost exactly Richard Seymour (6'-5" 310 vs 6'-6" 311, respectively).
Nice piece in the Athletic about Keion's slow rise through College into an NFL player.
White had already been in college for five years when the 2021 season ended. He’d started only 13 games as a defensive lineman and had 3.5 sacks. The NFL seemed so far away. White got a summer job working as a project estimator for a commercial construction company. It didn’t go great.
“That’s what made me be like, ‘OK, I’ve got to make this football thing work,’” White said.
In the fall of 2022, he was dominant, producing a 7.5 sack season that led the Patriots to draft him in the second round. A year later, he’s one of the team’s most exciting players, a powerful pass rusher they’ll rely on to pressure Aaron Rodgers on Thursday night.
White hasn’t had much time to reflect on how fast it has all happened for him. How he went from lining up a career in real estate to becoming the foundation of the New England defense. How he has quickly turned into one of the most promising young defensive ends in the NFL despite only playing the position for three full seasons.
https://www.nytimes.com/athletic/5774152/2024/09/18/keion-white-patriots-breakout-star/
White had already been in college for five years when the 2021 season ended. He’d started only 13 games as a defensive lineman and had 3.5 sacks. The NFL seemed so far away. White got a summer job working as a project estimator for a commercial construction company. It didn’t go great.
“That’s what made me be like, ‘OK, I’ve got to make this football thing work,’” White said.
In the fall of 2022, he was dominant, producing a 7.5 sack season that led the Patriots to draft him in the second round. A year later, he’s one of the team’s most exciting players, a powerful pass rusher they’ll rely on to pressure Aaron Rodgers on Thursday night.
White hasn’t had much time to reflect on how fast it has all happened for him. How he went from lining up a career in real estate to becoming the foundation of the New England defense. How he has quickly turned into one of the most promising young defensive ends in the NFL despite only playing the position for three full seasons.
https://www.nytimes.com/athletic/5774152/2024/09/18/keion-white-patriots-breakout-star/