Penn State AD and Sandusky Charged

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From the website of WPVI TV, Philly:

Until the Sandusky scandal exploded in Happy Valley, the prevailing notion was Joe Paterno's Nittany Lions program was squeaky clean, at least by NCAA Division One Standards.

But Alison Kiss, a nationally known campus victim's advocate of Security on Campus, Inc., says in recent years she has handled two alleged rape cases from Penn State. Both victims name football players as their attackers, but she claims cover-ups, not justice, was the result.
Every new detail just makes me angrier.
 

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From the website of WPVI TV, Philly:



Every new detail just makes me angrier.
I'm telling you, every skeleton in every closet in that whole town is about to come out.

Good for the board for canning his ass. Let this just be the start of a complete house cleaning.
 

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Wonder what happens to that JoePa statue sitting outside Penn State.
 

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Glad the Board did the right thing here.

Edit: Clearly this is a no-brainer of a decision given all the facts, but it did take balls to do the right thing
 

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Good for PSU. One thing, I have not read is that if Paterno calls the cops in 2002, there is a big chance he would not be the coach at this time. He gave Sandusky access to PSU facilities and let that monster bring little children there. If Sandusky indeed retired in 1999, because of the rumors. Why would you let him take little kids unescorted into your facilities? By not calling the cops in 2002, Paterno ensured he would remain the coach as long as he wanted - at least until today... This was not just a lapse of judgement, he benefited from protecting a rapist instead of protecting the victims.
 

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The twitter link says Spanier is no longer the President & Paterno is no longer the head coach.
 

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Good for PSU. One thing, I have not read is that if Paterno calls the cops in 2002, there is a big chance he would not be the coach at this time. He gave Sandusky access to PSU facilities and let that monster bring little children there. If Sandusky indeed retired in 1999, because of the rumors. Why would you let him take little kids unescorted into your facilities? By not calling the cops in 2002, Paterno ensured he would remain the coach as long as he wanted - at least until today... This was not just a lapse of judgement, he benefited from protecting a rapist instead of protecting the victims.
Yeah that is what sickens me. The Grad Assistant also seems to have benefited from remaining mum on the issue as well. Anything to make a buck, I guess.
 

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Quote from my girlfriend (a PSU alumna), half laughing through sadness: "They haven't even asked who is going to be the President yet!"

(after hearing the 82 questions about, "Who is gonna coach Saturday?!")
 

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Fox 25 has live footage, though the anchors are talking over it.
 

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http://www.blackshoediaries.com/2011/11/9/2551001/penn-state-scandal-board-of-trustees-press-conference-open-thread#comments

The comments are unreal, someone says "At last, somebody with a spine shows up on campus." and gets a "FUCK YOU" reply. People calling for the board to be fired, not Patwerno.
 

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Jesus, people, this is not complicated. McQueary clearly told the Grand Jury that he witnessed with his own eyes Jerry Sandusky anally penetrating a young boy. There is zero ambiguity about the severity of Sandusky's abuse.
As several of you have suggested I should, I've now taken the time to read the grand jury report. As I thought from the other comments in the thread, it's quite damning. If even a fraction of what's in there is proven to be true, Sandusky should rot in hell, as should all of the people who enabled him to keep doing this.

And, also as I thought, this is one side of a reprehensible story. So, let me correct your statement:

There is zero ambiguity about the severity of the abuse McQueary testified that he witnessed.

I'm sorry, but there's a critical difference between that and there being zero ambiguity about the severity of Sandusky's abuse. The grand jury report is convincing to me, but again, it's one side of the story. I honestly believe it to un-American to judge Sandusky and the other people charged without their having the opportunity to defend themselves.

I realize that's a very unpopular position in here, and that I'm ultimately asking you to hold off on condemning them for heinous acts of which they will very likely be convicted. That's not an easy thing to do, but it's also part of the genius of the American legal system. And I hope you will understand that I am in no way defending the conduct that has been alleged, nor your proper outrage if it is proven to be true, as I think is very likely. But it's in part because these charges hit home, because it is so abusive and invasive of a crime that it hits all of us emotionally, that it's particularly important to make sure of the facts.

In terms of Penn State, the only defense I'd find acceptable for their conduct is that they investigated, concluded the allegations were full of crap, and were entirely correct. In any other situation, I'd like to be able to charge them as accessories to all of the abuses that occurred after they had an opportunity to put an end to it; they're ethically culpable, even if they are not legally so. But, again, I'm willing to wait and let them answer the charges before we string them up, and I'm disappointed that I seem to be the only one who is.

Anyway, I realize that I've upset everybody by wading into the middle of a perfectly good vigilante-style pile on, so having said my piece, I'll move on. I'll come back to the thread and join in the condemnation after everybody has had a chance to defend themselves, and it's been proven that we're correct in condemning them. In the meantime, I'm sorry that we disagree so fundamentally on this, since I enjoy these discussions, and I do recognize that you're honestly baffled and/or upset at my thoughts on this one.
 

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Lots of "no comment" type of answers. Sounds like they're bracing for legal armageddon.
 

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http://www.blackshoediaries.com/2011/11/9/2551001/penn-state-scandal-board-of-trustees-press-conference-open-thread#comments

The comments are unreal, someone says "At last, somebody with a spine shows up on campus." and gets a "FUCK YOU" reply. People calling for the board to be fired, not Patwerno.
Well, you know, sports blogs/chat sites bringing out the worst kind of lunatics...wait a sec (sees own reflection in computer screen)
 

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Pretty confrontational questions, what don't these reporters get? There is no way the BOT could allow him to take the field with that team, none.
 

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They did the right thing. Now it is time to put that POS Sandusky behind bars and clean the rest of the house (including McQueary).

I simply can't believe JoePa tried to dictate the terms of his exit after not doing anything about this for years. Fine work by that PR firm he just hired.

What a sad, sad chain of events.
 

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They named the library at one of the biggest universities in America after Paterno, then fired him on the phone.
You HAVE to be kidding me?? Officially have read my last thing from Peter King.
 

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Glad to see the BOT do the right thing. Paterno may need to show himself just to prevent a riot by the sounds if things.