He referred to Jr as his "brother". I'm sure he spent a good deal of time around Sr. when their dads were teammates.Eduardo seemed pretty shaken up.
Hard to argue on either count. That sums it up.The bet he had on the Diamondbacks making the playoffs did him in.
RIP. Great hitter, bad person.
Probably had himself in the death pool.The bet he had on the Diamondbacks making the playoffs did him in.
RIP. Great hitter, bad person.
+1If you want to teach your kids how to play baseball on the field you show them Pete Rose. If you want to show them what not to do in baseball off the field you show them Pete Rose.
This is a work of art.Probably had himself in the death pool.
Good god. Shut down the internet because we have reached its peak.Probably had himself in the death pool.
Now put him in the Hall of Fame
Let's establish one thing upfront. There is no such thing as a "lifetime ban" in MLB, Rose is on the permanently ineligible list.
Is this true?Let's establish one thing upfront. There is no such thing as a "lifetime ban" in MLB, Rose is on the permanently ineligible list.
This is the pithiest and most apt thingIf you want to teach your kids how to play baseball on the field you show them Pete Rose. If you want to show them what not to do in baseball off the field you show them Pete Rose.
He was a fixture at the memorabilia shop in the Caesar's Palace Forum mall. I remember seeing him there often. Sitting at a table selling autographs, usually sitting there alone. It was a little depressing. But I guess he had to pay the bills.He lived in my business partner's condo building in LV. He had a (I think) Rolls Royce with the license plate HIT KING.
Hell of a baseball player.
Yeah. Perfect time for it. I bet he would appreciate it.Seems to me that MLB (brought to you by FanDuel) really owes him an apology.
I once saw Pete in a Vegas memorabilia shop picking the goddamn hell out of his nose waiting for anyone to roll up to his autograph table.Just tried to go onto the Pete Rose website to buy a ball. They pulled the payment method pretty damn quickly so you can’t buy a bunch of stuff. Those prices will shoot upwards. Albeit, if you’re a collector Pete has signed for you already.
That guy would autograph his soul.
Should’ve got the booger signed.I once saw Pete in a Vegas memorabilia shop picking the goddamn hell out of his nose waiting for anyone to roll up to his autograph table.
And harmed Tony Perez's career and the development of the 1985 Reds. His selfish ego made him underperform on the field as well as off.Sad story. His own ego prevented him from coming clean, showing true remorse, and seeking the reinstatement he so desperately wanted.
A lot depressing. He just looked so miserable, staring off. Most prolific hitter who ever lived, just sitting there, metaphoric guitar case wide open but nothing inside.He was a fixture at the memorabilia shop in the Caesar's Palace Forum mall. I remember seeing him there often. Sitting at a table selling autographs, usually sitting there alone. It was a little depressing. But I guess he had to pay the bills.
As if I needed another reason to hate Pete Rose, he admits he was a good friend of Don Zimmer. Burn, baby, burn.This is one of my favorite videos ever about baseball.
View: https://twitter.com/nut_history/status/1840899500329603129
Rose, A-Rod, and Big Hurt talking hitting. Rose puts on a clinic for the other two.
Seconded. Wonderful examination of a great ballplayer and a deeply-flawed human being. Charlie Hustle was the perfect nickname.The HBO Max mini series on Rose is excellent. Well worth your time.
I mostly agree. Except he played in the 1983 World Series with the Phillies too so at least one kore year.Random thought: was Pete Rose ever the best player on his team?
I’m not sure he was — he played with Frank Robinson, then Johnny Bench, and eventually Joe Morgan, then in Philly he was with Mike Schmidt, and after that he was old.
Didn’t realize until just now that Rose led the league in plate appearances 7 times. His durability was a big reason he got the hit record — he was a career .303 hitter who drew his share of walks, which wouldn’t be the profile you’d expect for a 4000+ hit guy, but he played a shitload of games — 3562, to be exact. That’s most all-time; only four guys are within 500 games of Rose (Yaz, Aaron, Henderson, Pujols).
Rose compiled 559 hits over his final 5 seasons (1982-86) and cumulatively had a negative WAR during that span, which imo makes the hit record less impressive. I’m not sure any player hung on too long as clearly as Rose did. Yaz and Aaron hung on too long too, but neither had a season with negative fWAR. Even Derek Jeter mustered 0.2 fWAR in his final season, and he hung on so long that people I know who aren’t even sports fans make jokes about it.
If Rose never gambled on the sport and retired after the 1982 season, when he was 41 years old and totally cooked, he’d still hold the NL record for hits, and he would’ve been a first ballot Hall of Famer, but he’d be largely forgotten today — like Rod Carew, a great player whom I doubt my 19-year old can tell you much about.
He's already in the WWE Hall of Fame. He entered in the same HOF class alongside Big John Studd, Jesse the Body Ventura, Junkyard Dog, Sgt. Slaughter, Superstar Billy Graham, Tito Santana, Bobby the Brain Heenan, Don Muraco, Greg Valentine, and Harley Race. Not too shabby.Now put him in the Hall of Fame
He lead his teams in WAR once in 1969.Random thought: was Pete Rose ever the best player on his team?
He was in 1966, arguably in 1967, and almost certainly in 1968 & 1969. Then a parade of HoF teamates joined him and he was only top 3-4 on his own team. Fuck Pete Rose into the sun with a razor-bladed rocket up his ass, but let's not pretend he wasn't a great fucking hitter during his peak.Random thought: was Pete Rose ever the best player on his team?
I’m not sure he was — he played with Frank Robinson, then Johnny Bench, and eventually Joe Morgan, then in Philly he was with Mike Schmidt, and after that he was old.
You don't get all-time career counting stat records without "hanging on too long," unless you're Barry Bonds.Didn’t realize until just now that Rose led the league in plate appearances 7 times. His durability was a big reason he got the hit record — he was a career .303 hitter who drew his share of walks, which wouldn’t be the profile you’d expect for a 4000+ hit guy, but he played a shitload of games — 3562, to be exact. That’s most all-time; only four guys are within 500 games of Rose (Yaz, Aaron, Henderson, Pujols).
Rose compiled 559 hits over his final 5 seasons (1982-86) and cumulatively had a negative WAR during that span, which imo makes the hit record less impressive. I’m not sure any player hung on too long as clearly as Rose did. Yaz and Aaron hung on too long too, but neither had a season with negative fWAR. Even Derek Jeter mustered 0.2 fWAR in his final season, and he hung on so long that people I know who aren’t even sports fans make jokes about it.
This just makes me sad.If Rose never gambled on the sport and retired after the 1982 season, when he was 41 years old and totally cooked, he’d still hold the NL record for hits, and he would’ve been a first ballot Hall of Famer, but he’d be largely forgotten today — like Rod Carew, a great player whom I doubt my 19-year old can tell you much about.
I know, I know. But that guy knew hitting like @Myt1 knows arguing.As if I needed another reason to hate Pete Rose, he admits he was a good friend of Don Zimmer. Burn, baby, burn.