Protecting the Shields -- The Nick Cafardo Thread

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Nick Carfardo is either dumb, lazy or both.

From Today's Globe:

http://www.boston.com/sports/baseball/reds...ing_big/?page=2

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LaRoche certainly has been one of a few veterans trapped in a no-win situation in Pittsburgh, where the team is constantly rebuilding and suffering losing season after losing season with no end in sight. LaRoche never really has played on a good team. You remember the relief Jason Bay felt when he was dealt to Boston? Recently, second baseman Freddy Sanchez got excited about current trade rumors surrounding him and shortstop Jack Wilson. Earlier this season, the Pirates dealt Nate McLouth to the Braves. If you’re a veteran player, you’re not going to be in Pittsburgh very long.


In 2004, The Atlanta Braves went 96-66 and won the NL East. LaRoche was the primary first baseman and played in the playoffs.
In 2005, The Atlanta Braves went 90-72 and won the NL East. LaRoche was the primary first baseman and played in the playoffs.

LaRoche has 30 playoff at bats and two post-season home runs. I don't expect every baseball fan to rattle off those stats but the head baseball guy for the Boston Globe should know if a guy has made two playoff appearances in the past 6 season.
 

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If you expect Cafardo to spend more time on B-Ref, then you're going to get less quotes (both attributed and un) from JP Riccardi (you know, the guy from Massachusetts who says that Blue Jay fans have more of a life than Sox fans and that's why they don't have a lot of people at the Rogers Centre) and Brian Sabean.

So make up your mind: more Sabean and Riccardi or accurate reporting.
 

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QUOTE (SeanBerry @ Jul 23 2009, 09:22 AM) index.php?act=findpost&pid=2437919
Nick Carfardo is either dumb, lazy or both.

From Today's Globe:

http://www.boston.com/sports/baseball/reds...ing_big/?page=2



In 2004, The Atlanta Braves went 96-66 and won the NL East. LaRoche was the primary first baseman and played in the playoffs.
In 2005, The Atlanta Braves went 90-72 and won the NL East. LaRoche was the primary first baseman and played in the playoffs.

LaRoche has 30 playoff at bats and two post-season home runs. I don't expect every baseball fan to rattle off those stats but the head baseball guy for the Boston Globe should know if a guy has made two playoff appearances in the past 6 season.


I consider Tony Mazz to be the "head" baseball guy at the Globe. Cafardo is a complete disaster of a writer(not just in baseball but everything he does) and his columns won't educate someone who hadn't heard of baseball before reading his work. If my sole responsibility is to write about the Boston Red Sox, MLB, and everything that goes on with them I would at least make sure that my work was factual. I hate Nick Cafardo and everything about him.
 

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QUOTE (RedOctober3829 @ Jul 23 2009, 10:56 AM) index.php?act=findpost&pid=2438074
I consider Tony Mazz to be the "head" baseball guy at the Globe.


That's what's sad, though. Mazz is definitely not the lead Sox/baseball writer. He's a catch-all columnist more in the mold of Bob Ryan. Cafardo is the keeper of the baseball notes column made famous and important by Gammons and that is the prime baseball gig at the Globe. He has sullied that column, and disappointed serious baseball fans all throughout New England and, probably, the country who used to read that column religiously.
 

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QUOTE (SeanBerry @ Jul 23 2009, 09:22 AM) index.php?act=findpost&pid=2437919
Nick Carfardo is either dumb, lazy or both.

From Today's Globe:

http://www.boston.com/sports/baseball/reds...ing_big/?page=2



In 2004, The Atlanta Braves went 96-66 and won the NL East. LaRoche was the primary first baseman and played in the playoffs.
In 2005, The Atlanta Braves went 90-72 and won the NL East. LaRoche was the primary first baseman and played in the playoffs.

LaRoche has 30 playoff at bats and two post-season home runs. I don't expect every baseball fan to rattle off those stats but the head baseball guy for the Boston Globe should know if a guy has made two playoff appearances in the past 6 season.


By the way, he said the exact same thing last night on CSN about LaRoche never being on a good team.
 

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QUOTE (MyDaughterLovesTomGordon @ Jul 23 2009, 01:25 PM) index.php?act=findpost&pid=2438384
That's what's sad, though. Mazz is definitely not the lead Sox/baseball writer. He's a catch-all columnist more in the mold of Bob Ryan. Cafardo is the keeper of the baseball notes column made famous and important by Gammons and that is the prime baseball gig at the Globe. He has sullied that column, and disappointed serious baseball fans all throughout New England and, probably, the country who used to read that column religiously.


Putting Mazz and Ryan in the same sentence makes me ill. Mazz is a hack and the next thought provoking column he writes will be the first.
 

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QUOTE (bd11 @ Jul 23 2009, 07:14 PM) index.php?act=findpost&pid=2439093
Putting Mazz and Ryan in the same sentence makes me ill. Mazz is a hack and the next thought provoking column he writes will be the first.


I was mostly just categorizing: At the Globe, there still remain two classes of writers - columnists and reporters. Both Mazz and Ryan fall into the former.

However, and I feel a little dirty doing this, I've got to defend Mazz a little, too. His column on boston.com is actually a very good use of the medium, mixing in video, interactive chats and polls, links, and illustrations to actually make more of a web column than just a reprint of what would normally be in the paper.

And his quality is way better than what was in the Herald. I thought this column was fairly excellent, and there are others that I've enjoyed as well.
 
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Columnists and reporters are two separate "classes" of writers at every newspaper and magazine, not just the Globe. Opinion vs. information.

Second, Mazz's presence on boston.com is purposely structured as a catch-all sports blog which is why it includes text, photos, video, etc. as opposed to just his column. I don't think Mazz is an especially good writer or deep thinker (I'd say Ryan and even CHB are better writers than Mazz) but he's serviceable, unlike NC.
 

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QUOTE (pedros hairstylist @ Jul 24 2009, 01:37 PM) index.php?act=findpost&pid=2440443
Columnists and reporters are two separate "classes" of writers at every newspaper and magazine, not just the Globe. Opinion vs. information.


If only that were actually true. There are many places where those lines are pretty hard to discern.

QUOTE (pedros hairstylist @ Jul 24 2009, 01:37 PM) index.php?act=findpost&pid=2440443
Second, Mazz's presence on boston.com is purposely structured as a catch-all sports blog which is why it includes text, photos, video, etc. as opposed to just his column. I don't think Mazz is an especially good writer or deep thinker (I'd say Ryan and even CHB are better writers than Mazz) but he's serviceable, unlike NC.


So, because they purposely do that, it can't be good? I don't understand what your point is there.
 

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Roy Halladay, Victor Martinez or Adrian Gonzalez? The Red Sox have a need for both and are still pursuing both.


I know this is "just" a blog post, but come on.
 

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This paragraph...

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The Angels remain an enigma in that they reach the same level virtually every season, pack their ballpark to the brim, play good baseball for a great manager, but don’t make that one extra move that would win them a World Series. Apparently, winning in 2002 was enough.


Since 2002 they have 4 div titles, 5 playoff appearances, 1 WS Chip, very good attendance records and a stable, model organization. How is that an enigma?
 

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QUOTE (ifmanis5 @ Aug 2 2009, 09:39 AM) index.php?act=findpost&pid=2464905
This paragraph...



Since 2002 they have 4 div titles, 5 playoff appearances, 1 WS Chip, very good attendance records and a stable, model organization. How is that an enigma?


It's an enigma that he forgot about the trade for Teixeira last year. It didn't work but that was the one extra move that could have won them the World Series.

Edited: Because I can't spell.
 

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QUOTE (barbed wire Bob @ Aug 2 2009, 01:03 PM) index.php?act=findpost&pid=2464935
It's an enigma that he forgot about the trade for Teixeira last year. It didn't work but that was the one extra move that could have one them the World Series.


Exactly. Classic Cafardo. Not only does he forget about the biggest deadline deal last year, but he also makes the absurd leap that the mythical "one extra move" that guarantees the WS title exists.

Because this year, the Angels, who lead the league in runs scored, just need which player to guarantee the title? Probably a hitter, right?
 

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From today's notes

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Apropos of nothing: 1. Trading for Victor Martinez likely means no Joe Mauer in Boston


Huh?

Both players hit Free Agency after 2010. Same with Lowell (Youk to 3rd, Vmart 1st, Mauer C). I know both would be highly unlikely, but I don't see how Mauer is thrown out the window entirely now.
 

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Anyone with TV access on this work day, do yourself a favor and catch Cafardo's pregame "analysis." During NESN's Around The League segment, Tappen asked Cafardo a few non-Red Sox questions.

Will Seattle give NYY a tough weekend?

"Well...Seattle is a very good team....umm they have Ichrio at the top of the lineup. Gives Yankees fits. We'll see."

No mention of their stellar defense or formidable bullpen. Didn't tell us the Yankees are missing Felix.

On Chris Carpenter:

"He won a Cy Young."

Pedro:

"Scouts told me he wasn't the old Pedro."
 

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"Scouts told me he wasn't the old Pedro."


That scout was Mrs. Cafardo. And she said it to him while they were watching the Phils/Cubs game last night.
 

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Ah, Nick, how I've missed you. After a string of merely boring, and not laughably terrible, columns, I had forsaken you. However, with this week's terribleness, I am back in your bosom.

From the outset, you make no sense:

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If you believe in the power of threes, the Cardinals, Yankees, Red Sox, and Phillies have a chance to emerge as very good postseason teams, because having three top starters is important in the playoffs.


Premise=solid. Having three elite starters is pretty awesome in the playoffs.

Execution=makes no sense. The Red Sox do not have an approximation of an elite third starter. That has kind of been the story of the season, actually: The search for a decent third starter. We thought for a short time in June it might be Penny. We hoped it would be Smoltz. We now dare to dream it might be Buchholz. However, the Sox definitely do not have "three top starters."

But let's see where you go with this.

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Peterson bases his Phillies evaluation on the established Cole Hamels, the addition of Cliff Lee, an effective Joe Blanton, and the addition of Pedro Martinez, who Peterson feels will be a big piece in the postseason picture.


Aha. So, by three top starters being important, you actually meant: three top starters and a fourth guy who's important. Makes sense. And you also intend to completely ignore the Phillies' second best pitcher (behind Lee), a young man named J.A. Happ, who's got an ERA+ of 167 and a WHIP of 1.172 and is kind of awesome, thus far. But, by all means, Pedro as fifth starter is crucial to this team's playoff success.

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Peterson loves what he sees from New York’s CC Sabathia and A.J. Burnett, and, he said, “[Andy] Pettitte has really started to pitch well, and when you add his postseason record, it’s pretty impressive to think what they could do.’’

He also thinks Joba Chamberlain adds great depth and can be dominant.


Now I see. What's important for the best playoff teams is to have two top starters, a third mediocre guy with a good postseason record compiled when he was much younger and better and on HGH, and then a fourth guy who adds great depth. I believe in the power of two plus one plus one!

Then we get a discussion of John Smoltz as part of the analysis of the Cards, who is apparently not part of the power of three, but Peterson wanted to talk about him, so you dutifully wrote it down and included it in the column, even though it didn't really fit that first paragraph. How expertly lazy of you. Well done.

Then there's a lot of blah, blah about teams who don't really have three top starters, where you keep discussing four starters, etc. I kind of got bored in there. Luckily you say some dumb stuff about the Rays, which woke me back up:

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The Rays’ rotation has been an enigma most of the year. They might have messed up when they traded Jackson to Detroit. James Shields and Scott Kazmir have struggled with sub-.500 records. David Price has an ERA over 5.00 and Matt Garza has underachieved, as usual.


Maybe they did mess up with that Jackson trade. But James Shields, with his 3.81 ERA and ERA+ of 120 is not the problem, despite his sub-.500 record. And just what would you have Matt Garza do, Nick? He's got a 3.74 ERA, an ERA+ of 122, and has only given up 137 hits in 159 innings. That's pretty dang good for a 25-year-old.

And does Jeff Niemann not count as a starter? He's got a 3.71 ERA, and ERA+ of 123, and he's even got one of those winning records that are so important. He's got two shutouts.

So, to summarize, the Rays have three starters (the power of three!) with ERA+s of 120, 122, and 123. That seems pretty dang outstanding, actually.

The Phillies, whose top three are the most awesomest and who are the best set up for the playoffs? Their top three would be: 529 (really, that's Cliff Lee's number), 167 (Happ, who doesn't count), and 112. Hmmm. The Rays' number three is better than their number three, but I guess the overall strength is on the Phils' side. (Although that number three is fat Joe Blanton. Cole Hamels is at 91.)

Well, the Yankees are second most awesomest, so let's check out their top 3: 125, 112, 109. Wait a second. That doesn't seem better than the Rays!

But the Rays pitchers are an enigma.

Anyhoo - time to wrap this first part up, Nick. How do you finish off your point about the power of three big starters?

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“You either have those top rotations or you have a bullpen that can take over in the sixth inning and be dominant the rest of the way,’’ Peterson said. “The teams which also have the bullpens are in pretty good shape in the postseason.’’


Good finish, Nick. Solid.

The rest of the column has plenty of idiocy, too, including another your reference to Dusty Baker as a "good manager" and Billy Wagner's "dogged personality," but I'll focus on just the Joe Mauer item, because it's fun.

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7. Joe Mauer, C, Twins - You can only imagine what Mauer would be hitting if he weren’t a catcher. He has batted .392 since the All-Star break, second only to Holliday. Any chance he would ever play another position? “That’s been bandied about for years,’’ said one of his teammates, “but clearly his value is as a catcher who can hit and who also is a very good catcher. At the very most, you could see him taking on a Victor Martinez-type of role where he catches part of the time and either DHes or plays first part of the time. He’s not going to play first in Minnesota. But I don’t think doing something like that is remotely in his head.’’


Yes, Nick, let's imagine ... Oh, I know - he would be hitting BETTER!

Mauer as Catcher: .388/.460/.663/1.123.
Mauer at DH: .321/.398/.506/.904.

Isn't this one of those stats that virtually any baseball fan knows? It's been all over the place. Joe Mauer is an awesome defensive catcher who loves catching and being part of the game. Change his position, though, Nick that would be a great idea. What's especially great about this paragraph is that you reprint the "that's been bandied about" quote by the unnamed player even though the implicit quote is actually, "that's been bandied about by idiots like you."

I'm back, Nick. Everything you write for the next month, I'm reading.
 

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5. Give Joe Girardi his due as a well-prepared manager who watches the rebroadcast of every game.


Th reason he watches the rebroadcast is that Girardi is a paranoid miscreant who wants to see if the announcers are backstabbing him, just as he did to Torre when he was in the booth.
 

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QUOTE (MyDaughterLovesTomGordon @ Aug 23 2009, 10:35 AM) index.php?act=findpost&pid=2524460
Ah, Nick, how I've missed you. After a string of merely boring, and not laughably terrible, columns, I had forsaken you. However, with this week's terribleness, I am back in your bosom. .

You really should sned this to the FJM guys and Ken Tremendous specifically (shoot him a PM here). They've got Deadspin to themselves in September you know. This is a fantastic dissection of column idiocy.
 
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I found this especially odd, and as bad as Cafardo is, this could be a new low, emphasis mine:

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Pirates: Imagine you live in Pittsburgh and have a son or daughter who was born in the fall of 1992. The child has gone through grade school, middle school, and is just about through high school. Basically, for an entire childhood, the kid has never known what it is like for the local baseball team to have a winning season. We hear the coaches are good teachers and are running players through drills as if it’s Triple A. Thought this was a major league team.



I have no idea why the Pirates are being mentioned in this article, or what this has to do with anything. The bolded section is rambling diarrhea as its best. Couldn't you just that "the last winning season for the Pirates was 1992?".

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...Jim Hendry has taken heat for his offseason moves of Kevin Gregg, Milton Bradley, etc.


Who uses "etc." to describe free agents signings made by the Cubs last year!? Extremely unprofessional. This is your career, Nick, you have a week to do this stuff. Go on MLBTR, and look up Cubs. Not that hard.

What's with all of the crap about generations this week? Even more stupidity on the Cubs, which I'm not sure why he's talking about them (teams that will likely missing the postseason?). Not to mention, the ideal source of a nameless executive. What's he giving away this time. Is it JP or you, Nick? Just say already.

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Cubs fans are the most patient in baseball. They and their parents and grandparents have waited 101 years for a championship. The new owners could be heroes in this town, but, said the executive, “It could also be a disaster if they get the wrong people running the team.’’



Apropos of Cafardo's IQ: I'll give him #2. Somewhat valid. Three, Four, and Five are traditional Cafardo garbage. One, takes the cake:

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1. I know Evan Longoria, and I know he’s not a .270-something hitter.
What does this mean? What is the context of "know" in this context? You know what kind of player he is, or you "know" him like Riccardi? By the way, get with the times, Nick. BA is almost worthless these days. I can't even tell what he's getting at OR how bad this is.

Finally, the updates on 9: QUOTE
3. Aaron Bates, 1B, Pawtucket - Not to pick on Bates, but none of the Double A callups to Pawtucket panned out this year, with the possible exception of Josh Reddick, who had some success in Boston but was on a 3-for-25 skid in Pawtucket. Bates hit .212, Bubba Bell .169, and catcher Mark Wagner, who has been solid defensively, has hit .220.


Okay, there are so many wrong things with this. First off, how does this deal with Aaron Bates? It talks more about a Pawsox [in general] update. Weird. Why are you "not picking on Bates"? Is he one of your unnamed sources, like JP? Nick then says Reddick had some success in Boston. No, he didn't. He put up a .188/.212/.406 line, with an OPS+ of 52. No wonder Nick deems that successful; if writers had baseball stats, these would be similar to Nick's. Not to mention, as Nick says, he was a AA callup. Why? That means he had no prior AAA at-bats. He's not been successful in Pawtucket, then, has he? How is he a "possible exception?" He's putting up a line worse than he did with Boston, with a .188/.167/.207 line (yes, his OBP is one of those rare cases where it's below the BA). Not to mention, a -0.7 wRC, a wRAA of -4.1, and a wOBA of .151. Finally, Nick then adds he's been in a 3-25 slump. Then why has he been a "possible" good call-up to the Pawsox this year?

I read Cafardo for my weekly Sunday funnies. He's better than most of the cartoons out there. Oh, yeah, Nick, please take the buyout.
 

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I've kind of got a buzz on and don't have the patience at the moment to obliterate the Cafardo column today, but would his Angels analysis be more coherent if I was? I honestly can't tell. It reads to me right now like a collection of paragraphs that all relate to the Angels thrown into a hat, pulled out, and taped together.

I got to this part, and figured I must be drunk:

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He has familiarity with the Sox - 23 career starts - but just an 8-7 record and 3.59 ERA against them (2-0 this season in two starts covering 11 innings).


That doesn't seem to be the way you use "but just" in a sentence. Isn't that supposed to indicate: "here comes a bad thing"?

Because, to me, a pitcher that has held another team considerably under its average scoring and has an above-.500 winning percentage against that same team, which hasn't been under .500 for a season since 1997, would seem to me to be quite good, no? A pitcher with those numbers in general is pretty good. A pitcher with those numbers against the two-time world champion Red Sox is more than competent.

Also, my fogginess may be at work, but this paragraph does not seem particularly prescient:

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The question is, do you buy the enhanced Angel offense creating problems for Sox pitchers? Even more pressing: Can the Angels pitching staff hold off Boston’s offense?


So, to clarify, the central question here is whether Red Sox can keep the Angels from scoring, coupled with whether the Angels can keep the Red Sox from scoring.

In Nick's opinion, the prime question here is whether the Angels can score more runs than the Red Sox.

This question seems to be intimately link with the even more central question of whether the Angels can beat the Red Sox while playing baseball games.

The whole thing was less bad than strange.

And the Tony Pena thing isn't that bad, but what are we to make of this:

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Pena, 52, probably could go out and catch nine innings right now, and he probably has a stronger arm than any catcher in the league.


I guess that's obviously hyperbole, but if you're a catcher in the MLB, wouldn't you want to tell Nick to go fuck himself?

And this item about Green, too:

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To show you how much regard people have for Green, when he was pitching against the White Sox, Yankee players were rooting for him as they watched on the clubhouse TV.


He knows that Green actually played for the Yankees, right? Why wouldn't they be rooting for him? The Sox were getting hammered and he's a position player they know who's being asked to pitch two innings. Wouldn't the Yankees have to be Vickian puppy-murderers not to root for him?

And then this:

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3. Tim Wakefield, RHP, Red Sox - Since 2000, Wakefield has hit 106 batters, most in the majors. Jeff Weaver is second with 105. Kansas City’s Jamey Wright is third with 101, followed by another headhunter, Vicente Padilla, with 99.


Is Vincente Padilla a headhunter? I honestly don't know. Is Nick being funny, and the "another headhunter" refers back to Wakefield, like ha, ha? Or is one of those other guys a headhunter? It seems unlikely. Weaver definitely isn't and how could some clown on the Royals be known as a headhunter? Maybe he is. I have no idea. Shouldn't he help us out with that?

No, apparently he should be supplying us with the truly arcane:

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8. Mike Moustakas and Eric Hosmer, Royals - The organization’s top two prospects had interesting weeks at Single A Wilmington. Both sat out much of the time. Moustakas, a third baseman hitting .254 with 15 homers and 83 RBIs, had concussion-like symptoms after a ground ball hit him in the head. Hosmer, a first baseman, was waiting on a pair of prescription glasses. He was hitting .196 with 1 homer and 9 RBIs in 25 games at Wilmington after hitting .254 with 5 homers and 49 RBIs at Burlington.


How are those things interesting? Who could possibly care about this? Guys in single A with minor injuries caused by a freak hop and vision problems? Or is that a joke about Moustakeas being bad at fielding and the hitting struggles Hosmer experienced on being moved up? Again, each is equally plausible.

Maybe this will all be clearer in the morning.
 

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I don't think it's just fogginess on your part - that is pretty much an exact list of things that caught my attention when I read the column this morning. However, we should give a little credit where it's due: he did actually acknowledge that the Angels' improved plate discipline is a good thing from their perspective (no more of the "aren't they awesome - they have a high BA and aggressive base-running!" mentality that has been the standard approach by sportswriters for the better part of this decade) and also went to the trouble of backing this up with some OBP figures. Also, I think that three out of the five "A propos of nothing" items actually constituted an appropriate use of that feature, with only #3 and #5 constituting the sort of random garbage that we usually see there.
 

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QUOTE (MyDaughterLovesTomGordon @ Aug 30 2009, 10:59 PM) index.php?act=findpost&pid=2540101
Is Vincente Padilla a headhunter? I honestly don't know. Is Nick being funny, and the "another headhunter" refers back to Wakefield, like ha, ha? Or is one of those other guys a headhunter? It seems unlikely. Weaver definitely isn't and how could some clown on the Royals be known as a headhunter? Maybe he is. I have no idea. Shouldn't he help us out with that?


Padilla does have a reputation of headhunting, especially when a batter is hitting him well: Here's a link to a story earlier this year, when Mark Teixeira got hit twice by Padilla after hitting a home run, and then Teixeira said that Padilla has been doing that his whole career.

I also am confused on the "another headhunter" line, as far as I know, no one has ever accused Wakefield of intentionally hitting other players.
 

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QUOTE (MyDaughterLovesTomGordon @ Aug 30 2009, 07:59 PM) index.php?act=findpost&pid=2540101
How are those things interesting? Who could possibly care about this? Guys in single A with minor injuries caused by a freak hop and vision problems? Or is that a joke about Moustakeas being bad at fielding and the hitting struggles Hosmer experienced on being moved up? Again, each is equally plausible.


The item was a lot more interesting in the hands of Posnanski:

http://joeposnanski.com/JoeBlog/2009/08/23...paragraph-ever/
 

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Wow. There really should have been some attribution in there somewhere, either to Joe or Janus. I'd call that borderline plagiarism. Cafardo's presenting that like original reporting, but it's actually third hand by the time we're getting it (I'm sure he read it on Joe's site, not the original web posting).

Thanks for catching that Zedia - my opinion of Nick sinks ever lower.
 

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To show you how much regard people have for Green, when he was pitching against the White Sox, Yankee players were rooting for him as they watched on the clubhouse TV.


The Yankees lost an afternoon game to the Rangers on Thursday. Are we to believe Yankee players hung around for six hours afterwards and watched Nick Green pitch? Did Nick make this up?
 

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Finding flaws in Cafardo's notes column is the very definition of picking low hanging fruit. The below -- part of a list of supposed 2010 Sox SS candidates -- is a Nicky double header of suck.

Did he really write "(a)s they say in the moves"? And did he really suggest that Troy Tulowitzki is on the list of possibilities without giving any reason why the Rockies would trade him beyond the slender reed that it "never hurts to ask." The Sox should also inquire about Pujols, Teixeira and Lincecum, right? After all, it never hurts to ask.

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6. Long shot - Troy Tulowitzki. As they say in the movies, “Everybody has a price,’’ but it seems that Tulowitzki, who has had his share of ups and downs for the Rockies, is projecting upward with 24 homers, 74 RBIs, and a .283 average entering last night. The 24-year-old has only six errors, and his six-year, $31 million deal is extremely team-friendly. Fat chance the Rockies would move him, but it never hurts to ask.


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This is a franchise that has had one winning season in the last 16. That is certainly not all Moore’s fault, but if I owned the team, I might be getting a little itchy to do better as I look at attendance dwindling and the potential that I may have lost an entire generation of fans.

Nick, the Royals have the third largest attendance increase in MLB this year, behind the pennant-winning Rays and a contending Rangers club.
 

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Nice catch...you could win a lot of bar bets with that nugget.

It is an interesting table to be sure. NYM down 10k/game. I didnt realize that Shea packed them in so well for its 'farewell' tour.
 

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QUOTE (Fratboy @ Sep 6 2009, 11:44 PM) index.php?act=findpost&pid=2552976
Nick, the Royals have the third largest attendance increase in MLB this year, behind the pennant-winning Rays and a contending Rangers club.

That whole extended attack on Dayton Moore was a little bizarre (well, not coming from Nick, but in general terms.) I think Allard Baird is one of his guys (remember a few weeks ago when he tortuously framed Mark Teahen trade speculation as an "update" on Allard Baird having thoughts about acquiring one of his former players) - not sure if that has anything to do with it, but worth keeping in mind.
 

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Question for Mark Reynolds in today's column:

"Statistical comparisons with Mike Schmidt’s early career are out there. Flattering?"

No comment necessary.

Edit: meh, maybe I'm overreacting.
 

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No over reaction. I felt the same. Dude has a couple of good seasons and Cafardo is ready to call him Mike Schmidt?

Aside from that, his column was perfectly croumulent today.
 

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QUOTE (John Marzano Olympic Hero @ Sep 13 2009, 01:55 PM) index.php?act=findpost&pid=2563100
No over reaction. I felt the same. Dude has a couple of good seasons and Cafardo is ready to call him Mike Schmidt?

Aside from that, his column was perfectly croumulent today.

A noble spirit embiggins even the smallest man, who actually happens to be Cafardo.
 

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With the hiring of Abraham, does that mean Cafardo's days are numbered? Because that would make five guys on the Red Sox beat.
 

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I'm still trying to figure out how the existence of acne on Derek Holland's face ended up in a sports section.
 

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1. The Nationals were 43-75 (.336) when they signed Stephen Strasburg Aug. 17. They have gone 7-21 (.250) since.


So signing him has hurt the franchise?
 

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2. How much production would J.D. Drew add if he hit the ball the other way at Fenway?

At Fenway in 2009, Drew has a 934 OPS (tOPS+ = 110) and has hit 6 doubles, 1 triple, and 3 home runs to the opposite field.

Nick, how much would your job performance improve if you actually watched the games?
 

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one thing that really annoys me with his columns is that he is constantly refering to unnamed insiders, whose expertise is taken as a fact, and who then spew 'old fashioned' baseball canards that are refuted or irrelevant.

by farming out the analysis, he is getting information akin to listening to Joe Morgan or Harold Reynolds all day. In a very real sense, their 'inside baseball' expertise, should be disqualifying.

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In the field, “Bay is more athletic,’’ said one talent evaluator. “He has the clear edge out there.’’


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“I think Holliday would be as prolific at Fenway as he was at Coors,’’ said the talent evaluator.


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“Other than a few guys in that steroid era, I’ve never seen a guy with more pop,’’ teammate Eric Byrnes told reporters in Arizona.


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“Laird has made some unbelievable throws lately,’’ said the scout.


Which isn't to say that any of these statements are false, simply referring to a random scout in re Laird is pretty weak.

But you guys already know this.
 

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I thought it was very strange that he quoted a 'talent evaluator'* as saying Bay "has the clear edge" over Holliday as a fielder, since that goes against what I've generally heard as accepted wisdom (and UZR). Odd that he just let that stand as if it were fact. But then he immediately said their base stealing percentages are similar, which is admittedly, what Cashman and Epstein will probably look at first.

*What the hell is a 'talent evaluator'? If it was a scout, he presumably would have said so...or a GM....what am I missing? Was it Randy Jackson?
 

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QUOTE (snowmanny @ Sep 20 2009, 02:33 PM) index.php?act=findpost&pid=2578998
I thought it was very strange that he quoted a 'talent evaluator'* as saying Bay "has the clear edge" over Holliday as a fielder, since that goes against what I've generally heard as accepted wisdom (and UZR). Odd that he just let that stand as if it were fact. But then he immediately said their base stealing percentages are similar, which is admittedly, what Cashman and Epstein will probably look at first.

*What the hell is a 'talent evaluator'? If it was a scout, he presumably would have said so...or a GM....what am I missing? Was it Randy Jackson?


That was dicked up. It's obvious there's a clear edge in the field, and it belongs to Holliday, not Bay.

Even though it was quoting someone else, Cafardo has to know better than to let it stand without commenting. Unless he agrees, which is certainly possible.

And whoever this evaluator is, I hope he works for New York.
 

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QUOTE (joyofsox @ Sep 20 2009, 10:11 AM) index.php?act=findpost&pid=2578054
So signing him has hurt the franchise?


I thought that was bizarre as well. Now, if Cafardo had written, "Between July 2nd, when Nyjer Morgan joined the Nationals, and August 27th, when he got hurt, the Nationals were 22-28 (.440). Since then, they are 6-15 (.286)" then at least he'd be making a defensible implication, whether it was true or not.
 

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Also, what the eff does this Apropos of nothing have to do with anything?

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The Nationals were 43-75(.336) when they signed Stephen Strasburg on Aug.17. They have gone 7-21(.250) since;


?

The guy has not played a game for them. How would his signing influence their record? What is the Sox record since they signed Reymond Fuentes?

This guy has got to be kidding.

http://www.boston.com/sports/baseball/arti...ng_the_managers

EDIT: Didnt notice it was already posted above by joyofsox. Shouldve guessed it was the first thing posted, since its so insane.
 
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