Do we know why yet? Oversleep again? Fuck around, got to airport late and security lines were too long? Uber didn't show?
R-Dub: Time Lord, Tantalizing Sleeper, or Just a Late Flier?
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The PR and the CHB type columns don't mean anything. But he is telegraphing to his teammates that he doesn't give a shit. That matters.
Yeah it's not about hot takes. I'm legitimately worried that he's just one of the many, many humans who can't keep his/her shit together.
Many of them are great people, but they tend not to stick around long in professional sports leagues, especially ones like that NBA that require tons of preparation and awareness.
As far as I can tell his agent is something called “Athlete Management Group” who never represented a first round pick before (and he went a little later than originally predicted) so they aren’t off to a great start either.
https://www.forbes.com/sites/darrenheitner/2018/04/10/robert-williams-will-stay-in-nba-draft-hiring-young-up-and-coming-agents/amp/
I have to admit, I wonder if some of this is because he's used to having college teammates, or relatives, or coaches taking care of these kind of arrangements.
It's probably not a thing if he's around teammates, but on his own, he has yet to develop any sort of functional habits, and needs them slapped into him.
It's probably not a thing if he's around teammates, but on his own, he has yet to develop any sort of functional habits, and needs them slapped into him.
Celtics brass and Williams's agent should be forwarding him the news that Nerlens Noel just signed for the vet minimum to be a back-up in OKC at the tender age of 24. Defensive dominance in college and great tools don't mean much in the NBA if you can't get your head right.
From turning down 4/$70M to accepting vet minimum without a major injury as a reason. GJGE, Nerlens.
He ended up at Bill Duffys' agency. They have a ton of clients.
It's not the agent acting like an amateur.
I can easily imagine forgetting the time zone shift the morning after the biggest event of his life, but missing a flight too suggests that he's got some growing up to do or time will pass him by.
Noel can’t shoot, which coincidentally is another thing Williams has to worry about
Nah man I'm not crowing. He was and is a lottery ticket late in the first. It's a good pick if he never plays a game.
But it didn't take long to see why he slid.
Boston has some good culture, I think it's a great situation. I would be worried how he will take the g league though, seems like a guy who could not be bothered there and the cultural impact is smaller when you're not around the core I would think.
There's a lot to be said for that POV, and DA et al. may very well take that view.
On the other hand, it takes one hell of a commitment to go from 27th pick in the draft to something special. Every kid is different, but it wouldn't surprise me in the least if the braintrust chooses to challenge him to earn his way back. I'd be inclined to send the message to his teammates that I appreciate their hard work and sacrifice and expect all of their peers to respect it as well.
Yeah well the tough love of falling to 27 hasn't done much so far it seems.
I don't know but if the Celtics can't get him on track I'm not sure who could
I don't know but if the Celtics can't get him on track I'm not sure who could
"Robert Williams - tantalizing sleeper or just a late flier?"
Has anyone yet outlined the circumstances around missing the flight?
Has anyone yet outlined the circumstances around missing the flight?
"Robert was doing volunteer work for his local church and wanted to get one more meal to an elderly person in the next county"
"Robert gave up his airplane seat to military personnel."
"Robert was helping a relative move this entire weekend and lost track of time"
"Robert took his advance from his agent and partied with his boys into the wee hours of Sunday morning and missed his 6am flight to Boston"
Which one plays best?
Not every 20-year old is Tatum or Brown. And A&M isn't Duke or Berkeley.
My 20-year old once underestimated airport travel time and missed a flight. And she hadn't been relieved of every single real-world responsibility for the previous 5 years, like Williams probably has. I'm not really taking anything from this. If it happens again, however . . . .
(or he had a nuclear hangover.....)
My 20-year old once underestimated airport travel time and missed a flight. And she hadn't been relieved of every single real-world responsibility for the previous 5 years, like Williams probably has. I'm not really taking anything from this. If it happens again, however . . . .
(or he had a nuclear hangover.....)
The military personnel one is nicely timed for this week's patriotic holiday, so I'm buying it.
He was saying goodbye to Reveille (if I knew how to photoshop, I'd photoshop a pic of RWill into this.)
I was having a good morning, but then I saw this, and also saw that it wasn't the current thread title for some reason.
The morning is no longer good.
<edit> Read the thread before posting, OGG. </edit>
Reading above...sounds like he is aware of needing wakeup-calls. Maybe Tyler Seguin can reach out to him and teach him the importance of knowing time zones, too.
Reading above...sounds like he is aware of needing wakeup-calls. Maybe Tyler Seguin can reach out to him and teach him the importance of knowing time zones, too.
Bill Duffy, his agent, is moving a trainer and his Asst HS coach in with him.
Hopefully that helps
Hopefully that helps
I coach a kid right now that has probably kissed a D scholarship goodbye simply because he can't get out bed in the morning.
http://www.espn.com/nba/story/_/id/23986580/robert-williams-says-missing-celtics-practice-fault
There was an earlier quote about dunking with elbows as well.
Late Rob talks after his first practice: blame me.
https://www.bostonglobe.com/sports/celtics/2018/07/03/here-what-robert-williams-had-say-about-missing-his-flight-and-celtics-first-summer-league-practice/qEDcdh0S6VT50b0brw3d7I/story.html?camp=bg:brief:rss:feedly&rss_id=feedly_rss_brief&s_campaign=bostonglobe:socialflow:twitter
https://www.bostonglobe.com/sports/celtics/2018/07/03/here-what-robert-williams-had-say-about-missing-his-flight-and-celtics-first-summer-league-practice/qEDcdh0S6VT50b0brw3d7I/story.html?camp=bg:brief:rss:feedly&rss_id=feedly_rss_brief&s_campaign=bostonglobe:socialflow:twitter
The likes of Jaylen Brown, Horford et al have absolutely spoiled us to the point of forgetting that most athletes speak a steady diet of word salad.
Gosh that's awful. I'm sure you do a TON but is there any way you can go over to his home at 6am and have a man to man talk with him or intervention with his folks?
D1 scholarships don't grow on trees.
It's never too late when it comes to a 17yr old. Its a huge inflection point in that kid's life.
Of course getting up in the morning can be an issue for adolescents. I’ve heard it argued that high school classes should start at 9:30 AM at the earliest.
Ed: https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.theatlantic.com/amp/article/379020/
Ed: https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.theatlantic.com/amp/article/379020/
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It’s definitely a thing. Had a college roommate who I worked at a TV station with who just flat out couldn’t wake up. He missed turning the transmitter on multiple times when he had to be in by 6, and had multiple dead air situations before they just had to permanently give him afternoon shifts.
I have done that many times. But, his mom is often already at work and he doesn't answer the door ,etc. He is on his own a lot. A lot of it is too late. He has failed every morning class all through high school and will not graduate on time. I coach him hoops but he is a football prospect. Generally he just forgets things, loses track of time, misses practices, classes. He has been so talented coaches, including me pick him, etc, and he relies on us.
I know "flier" and "flyer" are interchangeable, but I prefer the latter. That's the only thing keeping the thread title from perfection, but your mileage may vary.
teachers/coaches are such an important part of the fabric of society...
thank you for your service