Ramon Laureano suspended 80 games
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That's a postseason ban too? At this point, 80 games would come close to covering a deep playoff run even if it doesn't come with an automatic DQ for October.
The ban rolls over into 27 games for next season (A's are 61-48 right now). Auto-DQ for playoffs this year.
I continue to believe these guys could inadvertently get this in their systems. I guess I'm hopelessly naive.
I don't know. They have the option of bringing anything they're taking to team doctors/trainers or someone MLBPA approved who can verify the product complies with all MLB rules. I would think we're past the point of players shopping at GNC or the like and just blindly trusting that the supplements they're taking are entirely clean.
Yeah, this is definitely connected, there are always appeals before this kind of news comes out, so the A's have known this was looming for a while.
It's the opposite. Everyone is taking something, and only a few get caught because the science of PEDs is ahead of the science of testing.
This 100%. They're definitely taking less than the McGwire and Bonds period to stay below positive testing thresholds but they're everywhere.
I believe it's possible as well, but can't recall a case were a player has gone to war over this to defend his innocence. I'm also not familiar with any players going after the manufacturer of any tainted product.
I don't disagree with anything written here, but I wonder what the process is. I'm guessing that verifying the product simply consist of breaking down the listed ingredients and comparing to a list of approved substances provided by MLB. Instances of "contaminated" product would only be discovered through some sort of testing of the product before being used. I'm guessing that service doesn't exist.
There are tens of millions of dollars on the line for each player. It is worth it for the scientists and the players to find the thing that gives them the edge, while passing drug tests.
And please don't take this the wrong way, this is not a judgement. I am in favor of the rules being less stringent, not more. Bring greenies back. But regardless, they are back, in a different chemical form.
Pete Rose would never have reached 4,000 hits without amphetamines or Greenies. We called them Black Beauties in college. Lots of us used them during study nights before exams. Gotta still be going on, right?
How about when someone nefariously puts the stuff in your beans and milkshakes?
Someone who does that should get a 800 game suspension. Served in the state pen.
No, I believe the MLB program is actually testing products. If they're doing that many players tests, a few more product tests can't be that much more. But product from certain suppliers tend to be randomly spiked with "active ingredients", so my understanding is that they approve the manufacturer, that manufacturer certifies that the samples are representative, and the MLB tests random samples in the future. If the player tested positive they could supply what they have of the approved supplement for testing and they'd be exhonorated and the supplier would get into trouble. But that's never happened. I'm sure the players just happened to use all of the supplement before testing positive. In every case.