I’d rather pay an extra $10 a month to have a fantastic plasma vs any non super high end LCD/LED.Your local energy company also thanks you.
Recommend me a 55-65 inch TV
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I have a 65" wall mounted mainly because my wife didn't like the look of it sitting on a TV stand. I don't honestly think it makes any difference at all. Just don't mount it too high on the wall if you do (a common mistake).
Or if you're forced to due to a fireplace, I highly recommend the MantleMount.
I agree, don’t mount it too high. Watching TV isn’t supposed to be star gazing.
How far the main seating is from the TV is important. I have a 65-inch in a large room and have it on a stand so it is 20-inches closer to our eyes.
Also, interior walls are usually hollow, so they’re much easier to deal with for wire pulls versus insulated exterior walls.
Mount it high if you must but for the best viewer experience it's recommended the vertical center of the screen be located at seated eye level, usually about 40-45 inches. I've seen them mounted more than six feet (to the bottom edge of the screen) off the floor with no fireplace. To each their own I guess but I don't know why someone would do this. As Muzzy said it becomes star gazing. The only place you would do this IMO, assuming no fireplace is in a bedroom where it helps due to the fact you're likely to be lying down as you watch it.
This is what I'm paranoid about. We're doing an addition now and the only place it could go over the fireplace. I think where it works out the bottom edge of the screen is going to be 47" off the ground, so I think we'll be ok but it's the one thing that's annoying me. There was literally no where else to put it.
Gotta do what you gotta do then. I might try to redesign the addition if it's not too late. Put the fireplace in the corner.
Having looked at numerous house listings on line when we were in the market for a house, I could not help but notice how high some wall mounted TV's were. Some were pretty crazy.
If I splash the cash on a decent Sony TV, how do people feel about sound bars? I've never had one, is it worth it? Does it make a big difference?
If I splash the cash on a decent Sony TV, how do people feel about sound bars? I've never had one, is it worth it? Does it make a big difference?
It's far better than relying on the TV's speakers, but not nearly as good as a proper home theater setup.
I went and measured and ours is currently 43” off the floor. We’re going to be 46”. I didn’t take into account we don’t have a floor and the existing tv has a 1.5” bevel and the new one is about 1/4 inch.
My other option is divorce so I’ll manage.
I had built in surround sound in a house I used to live in, I hated it. The volume would fluctuate so much it had me diving for the remote to turn it down. Commercials I seem to remember were very annoying..more than normal. No clue if it was the set up and never really played around with it that much. I just quit using it.
I had the same result with a surround sound system. Was awesome for movies and sports, but for regular tv, the volume fluctuations drove me bananas
Surround sound is incredible for sports because you can unplug the center speaker and have no announcers but still hear all the crowd/stadium noise. I really miss surround sound for that reason.
Most modern receivers have dynamic range compression that can be turned on to adjust for the volume fluctuations.
A fair number of surround broadcasts move all the audio to center now. It's really annoying. I have to put my receiver in multi-channel stereo to deal with it (where it replicates all the audio on all the speakers).
I'll put this in the tech bargains thread too but FYI for those looking for a 75".
Dell will have a Labor Day Door Buster at 2PM on September 2nd:
LG 75 inch model 75UM7570PUD $999 and you get a $250 Dell E-Gift card for later use (can't use it on this TV) netting the price at $749.
I know nothing about this model so if you're interested do your research. I got a pre-notification of the deal because I bought my Sony from them. If you decide you want one, don't mess around. Be on their site at 2PM sharp. They'll be gone by 2:30.
Dell will have a Labor Day Door Buster at 2PM on September 2nd:
LG 75 inch model 75UM7570PUD $999 and you get a $250 Dell E-Gift card for later use (can't use it on this TV) netting the price at $749.
I know nothing about this model so if you're interested do your research. I got a pre-notification of the deal because I bought my Sony from them. If you decide you want one, don't mess around. Be on their site at 2PM sharp. They'll be gone by 2:30.
Ok, I'm jumping in.
I've pretty much settled on the 65" LG OLED C9. $2,496 on Amazon, CostCo et al. My question is: what's with the bundles on Amazon?...Seems like a sound bar or an Xbox One thrown in is hard to ignore. Does anyone have info on these? I prob don't really need a sound bar...this TV will go in my family room (day to day stuff...all the movies and "must watch" stuff goes on in my basement where I still love my Panasonic plasma). I'm not a gamer BUT the Xbox One could play my (old but extensive) DVDs. That bundle comes with a wall mount and a Deco Gear remote (cheap, I think - prob would NOT use). Other bundles include other stuff...some are Prime, some not. I'm trying to sort this out but am getting overloaded. Any suggestions would be much appreciated.
PS: The burn out issue: I do not leave the TV on for prolonged spells except Sundays when Red Zone could be up for the duration if the Pats are off or not playing the 1p/4p Sunday time slot. My wife digs the Weather Channel when anything is brewing near us or in the Caribbean (e.g.Dorian). Otherwise, we're pretty normal viewers.
TIA!!
I've pretty much settled on the 65" LG OLED C9. $2,496 on Amazon, CostCo et al. My question is: what's with the bundles on Amazon?...Seems like a sound bar or an Xbox One thrown in is hard to ignore. Does anyone have info on these? I prob don't really need a sound bar...this TV will go in my family room (day to day stuff...all the movies and "must watch" stuff goes on in my basement where I still love my Panasonic plasma). I'm not a gamer BUT the Xbox One could play my (old but extensive) DVDs. That bundle comes with a wall mount and a Deco Gear remote (cheap, I think - prob would NOT use). Other bundles include other stuff...some are Prime, some not. I'm trying to sort this out but am getting overloaded. Any suggestions would be much appreciated.
PS: The burn out issue: I do not leave the TV on for prolonged spells except Sundays when Red Zone could be up for the duration if the Pats are off or not playing the 1p/4p Sunday time slot. My wife digs the Weather Channel when anything is brewing near us or in the Caribbean (e.g.Dorian). Otherwise, we're pretty normal viewers.
TIA!!
I just bought the 65B8 (sale was too good to pass up). Unless they’ve changed the sound that’s my only complaint. We watched Booksmart last week and there were scenes where the music completely drowned out the dialog. It’s got nice speakers but it has some funky mix issues. The aggressive motion settings are a bit annoying (I despise the soap opera look), but it just took some time to get set correctly.
What do I need to fear about burn in?
What do I need to fear about burn in?
What’s you get the 65 B8 for? I got the 55 B8 for $899 on Prime day and couldn’t pass it up. Great tv but I agree the motion settings took a good amount of effort as I’m super against any blurring and soap opera
Why restrict yourself? A British company named Titan just released a 4K model called Zeus that has an 8 meter by 5 meter screen and costs $1.7 million.
FYI - LG 65C9 was down to ~$2100 at a local but cheap authorized retailer place near me, I was cross-shopping it against the Sony 65A9G. If you have some price-match thing you might be able to get some $$$ back, if you can find someone in your neck of the woods that is lower down in price.
Damn, I really want to upgrade my TV this year, but I don't know if it's in the cards
If I bought one now, it would be the 65C9 based on my research and from what others have said here
Maybe I'll see a nice sale this year and won't pass it up
If I bought one now, it would be the 65C9 based on my research and from what others have said here
Maybe I'll see a nice sale this year and won't pass it up
I think it was $1700 before taxes? Very happy with it so far, and after playing with the settings some, I have a nice mix of non-motion and motion profiles (movies/tv and games/sports respectively). The quick settings make it easy to switch them too, which is a plus.
I'm finally happy with the settings on my B8. I have a Sports setting and a Sitcom setting I've customized. Usually i'm on the Sports setting 100% of the time unless it's a sitcom, which apparently use lower frame rates.
As someone who didn't want to leave a plasma, this TV is awesome. The black levels are unreal and the motion is very good. I'd imagine newer versions are even better.
As someone who didn't want to leave a plasma, this TV is awesome. The black levels are unreal and the motion is very good. I'd imagine newer versions are even better.
Agree with this, on my 3rd day of an OLED, coming from a decade+ of plasma - the deep black is insane. Motion also no problem so far, but the real test will be football this weekend.
I'm more annoyed at how compressed the Comcast signal is than anything else, I'm probably going to have to look into streaming services to raise the picture quality, which is kinda ridiculous.
Still hanging on to my 2 Panasonic plasmas, will check back in a year to see how your LG OLEDs are doing after a year with lots of viewing of ESPN and other channels with a ton of static content on the screen to see if you've got meaningful burn-in, which many others continue reporting.
LG's been giving free out of warranty replacement for burn-in so I'm not worried. We vary content quite a bit and honestly don't watch that much static TV.
If you're implying plasma had burn in issues, Panasonic, at least, solved those long ago, my main 55" Panasonic is 10 years old, for reasons not worth explaining, it's literally on at least 18 hours each day, it's definitely a lot dimmer than when new but there is zero evidence of any burn in ...meanwhile LG wouldn't A: explicitly exclude burn-in as a defect covered by warranty on their current sets and B: according to many reports on the Net, actually replacing many sets with burn in under a hidden warranty program.
What I was implying was that for years the masses were afraid of burn in issues on plasma and gave them a horrible reputation that was undeserved and as a result bought LCD TVs that were horrible, often more expensive than the evil plasmas.
Many of us who had plasmas knew it was not a major issue. Now plasma owners are worried about burn in on OLED.
if I was running my OLED 18 hours a day with static images I’d have concern. I don’t see that being a normal use case for many people. I work from home a lot and have the TV on (a plasma) but no one TV is on for more than 4 hours a day usually.
If in 3 years I have burn in issues on the TV and LG won’t replace it then it is what it is. I’ll reevaluate technology then and probably end up with an even better set for a reasonable cost.
I’m loving it, it didn’t cost a fortune and looks great. I paid $999 for this, if i paid $2,500 or something I may have a different opinion but it was basically the price of my iPhone which will be replaced in a 2 year cycle.
Many of us who had plasmas knew it was not a major issue. Now plasma owners are worried about burn in on OLED.
if I was running my OLED 18 hours a day with static images I’d have concern. I don’t see that being a normal use case for many people. I work from home a lot and have the TV on (a plasma) but no one TV is on for more than 4 hours a day usually.
If in 3 years I have burn in issues on the TV and LG won’t replace it then it is what it is. I’ll reevaluate technology then and probably end up with an even better set for a reasonable cost.
I’m loving it, it didn’t cost a fortune and looks great. I paid $999 for this, if i paid $2,500 or something I may have a different opinion but it was basically the price of my iPhone which will be replaced in a 2 year cycle.
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Fair enough, If my next set lasts 10 years I probably won't know since the odds I'm going to last 10 years are quite slim. I'm well aware of the limits of current OLED technology (inherently not as bright as LED, no way they can ever get the blue cells to match the brightness & longevity of the other colors, etc). I prefer an understated mode, LED TVs that 'pop' are cartoonish and I can't watch them for any length of time. The way I setup is likely to minimize OLED burn in since I won't push brightness and the only channel I'll watch with large static components is likely to be ESPN, and OLED motion is as close as we can get now to plasma...so I'm fated to go OLED next....
I have a Panasonic plasma that's about 8 years old (I bought one of the last versions)...it's amazing and I love it. I bought an LG OLED 65C9 last month after perusing this thread (thanks guys!). I'm blown away. Picture, blacks, motion is amazing. I'm definitely converted. I would 100% recommend the LG OLED products.
another major difference is glare. I know OLEDs are not as good with glare as LED but the glare on this is probably 25% as of my plasma. I have it in a room that’s mostly windows and barely ever notice glare vs my Sammy plasma which was like a mirror at times.
I might pick up a 65” during Black Friday sales, am I crazy to not buy a TCL for the simple fear of the Chinese spying? That sounds crazy but I’m convinced they’re undercutting price so much just to get in as many houses as possible.
Despite possible spying, I had a TCL (can't beat the price). A few months in, I got an update and it stopped playing nice with my router. Still worked with a roku box while i dealt with service. Eventually they just gave me a refund and I got an LG OLED.
Does anyone have first-hand impressions of the Vizio PX series TVs? We're due for an upgrade and Sam's is putting the 65" PX on sale for under $1000 this weekend. Rtings seems to like them enough, and my last 3 TVs have been Vizios with few complaints. Appreciate any feedback anyone has.
Oh, and OLEDs are out, sadly. The added cost and burn-in boogeyman is too much for my better half.
Oh, and OLEDs are out, sadly. The added cost and burn-in boogeyman is too much for my better half.
Have you checked on the SKU and Model # of the Sams version? They can slip in an inferior model as a deal like they do on Black Friday.
if you have been happy with your last 3 Vizio’s these can’t be any worse so you’re probably getting an upgrade anyways. They’re a better model of what you’ve had previously.
if you have been happy with your last 3 Vizio’s these can’t be any worse so you’re probably getting an upgrade anyways. They’re a better model of what you’ve had previously.
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Request from the readers:
Looking for a TV, likely in the range of 50" or so. Want to have great sound without a receiver / etc. Basically looking at either TV with great integrated sound, or TV plus Soundbar. If it's the latter, I want full integration - Soundbar mounted directly below the TV, all wires will be hidden (I will snake through wall if needed), and I want one remote (ie the TV remote controls the soundbar volume). I don't want a soundbar remote, I just want the soundbar to be an extension of the TV speakers.
Tried googling this, not the easiest thing to google. Any recommendations? I am thinking that if I get say an LG TV and an LG soundbar this integration will be there (but I'm not sure).
Thanks
Looking for a TV, likely in the range of 50" or so. Want to have great sound without a receiver / etc. Basically looking at either TV with great integrated sound, or TV plus Soundbar. If it's the latter, I want full integration - Soundbar mounted directly below the TV, all wires will be hidden (I will snake through wall if needed), and I want one remote (ie the TV remote controls the soundbar volume). I don't want a soundbar remote, I just want the soundbar to be an extension of the TV speakers.
Tried googling this, not the easiest thing to google. Any recommendations? I am thinking that if I get say an LG TV and an LG soundbar this integration will be there (but I'm not sure).
Thanks
You're going to need a Soundbar. Most of them can be trained to use the TV remote.
I think the best bang for the buck are the Zvox sound bars. I have 2 Soundbase's and 2 Soundbars (SB400) and they quality is fantastic. They're also cheaper than competition and sound better. I did a bakeoff between the Sonos Beam and the SB400 and thought the SB400 was way better and cheaper.
They're also super easy to setup and simple. My dad has them and can actually use it without constantly screwing it up.
I think the best bang for the buck are the Zvox sound bars. I have 2 Soundbase's and 2 Soundbars (SB400) and they quality is fantastic. They're also cheaper than competition and sound better. I did a bakeoff between the Sonos Beam and the SB400 and thought the SB400 was way better and cheaper.
They're also super easy to setup and simple. My dad has them and can actually use it without constantly screwing it up.
Good feedback
this makes sense. I’m happy w my tv, last soubdbar I had, it had terrible integration. Sounds like it’s much better now
Most soundbars connect via HDMI-ARC now for audio, and can be controlled over HDMI-CEC. You plug the soundbar into the HDMI-ARC input on the TV. Then, you just use the regular TV remote, and it passes the volume commands to the soundbar.
Polk Audio has some great soundbars, too. They usually go on sale for half price around Black Friday.
This. As long as your TV and soundbar have HDMI-ARC connections and have CEC capabilities (which pretty much everything has these days if it has ARC) then you will be able to do this. I don’t think there is any real benefit to synchronized brands but would defer if someone who has actual knowledge on this stuff disagrees.
One thing I’d flag is that you should ideally have enough HDMI in ports on your soundbar to run it as a receiver rather than running everything on your tv. This will avoid any limitations on sound quality based on how the TV processes audio codecs. My only real regret with my current soundbar is that it has one too few HDMI ports, but I was on a budget and my TCL tv plus Yamaha soundbar setup remains a great decision for what I had to spend at the time. Probably our next setup will have a significantly expanded budget and will involve a premium bar and a 65 inch OLED, but we are still a few years and several more important projects away from that sort of expense.
You absolutely should not try to get a TV with “good” sound. You will just waste time looking for something that does not exist.
Welp, I just pulled the trigger on the 65" C9
I'm out of my smaller town in a bigger centre last couple days. Went to Best Buy last night, to check them out in person and they were on "sale" at $3,300, which was $500 off sticker (all prices in $CDN). Which is the same price I've seen for the last couple of sales. The price was only going to be through last night, so I wanted to check before I left town today.
Got there this evening and it was on it's Black Friday price at $2,500. My buddy was with me, so we asked what we would pay if we got two. They knocked it down another hundred and claimed it was at cost now. I bought one, my buddy didn't. They gave me the $2,40p price, but said they were having a happy hour special that wasn't posted, but only lasted until 8:00. I was buying it either way, so happy to get it at that cost.
Only crappy thing is it won't fit in the car. Luckily my buddy had his truck, so we loaded it up and brought it back to his place. It'll stay there for a bit, until I can pick it up in a week when I'm back
Hello, experts. I'm looking for a 40ish" television for a bright room with lots of windows. I will hook a Roku up to it and probably an AppleTV, but it won't be our primary television. Our primary TV is a high end Panasonic plasma that I will keep as long as possible.
Any Black Friday deals that y'all have spotted?
Any Black Friday deals that y'all have spotted?
For prices, start here. Should also be some comments along the way:
https://slickdeals.net/f/13480057-bf2019-master-tv-thread?v=1
Bought a new Sony Full Array (49") last week and I personally think their machine had a slightly better picture than the equivalent Samsung.
WARNING:
The Sony Android Smart TV System does not support all available apps if you have Xfinity cable. After 2 days of trying, I was able to get HBO GO to load (seriously...when activating I kept getting the message, "Device Not Supported"). Activation listed Samsung (among others) but no Sony device. 2 days later, Sony appeared as a "suitable" device and it works now.
Showtime Anytime is a different story. The Sony will simply not accept it. Activation won't list the set as available (again, Samsung is listed).
I don't know if it's Xfinity or Sony at fault here.
TIVO Question for those who know:
Today I have most programming going through an ARC HDMI from a Tivo Premier XL to the TV. I do, however, view any available UHD/4K programming (HBO, Netflix, Amazon, etc.) through the Sony smart hub via a direct ethernet cable. High quality Picture/Sound is substantially improved.
Tivo now has a new box called "Edge" - which claims to process and display UHD/4K recordings. I don't get it, though, since all information is still coming through a coax cable to the Tivo and then HDMI to the set. Wouldn't high quality broadcasting still be limited to internet feeds?
WARNING:
The Sony Android Smart TV System does not support all available apps if you have Xfinity cable. After 2 days of trying, I was able to get HBO GO to load (seriously...when activating I kept getting the message, "Device Not Supported"). Activation listed Samsung (among others) but no Sony device. 2 days later, Sony appeared as a "suitable" device and it works now.
Showtime Anytime is a different story. The Sony will simply not accept it. Activation won't list the set as available (again, Samsung is listed).
I don't know if it's Xfinity or Sony at fault here.
TIVO Question for those who know:
Today I have most programming going through an ARC HDMI from a Tivo Premier XL to the TV. I do, however, view any available UHD/4K programming (HBO, Netflix, Amazon, etc.) through the Sony smart hub via a direct ethernet cable. High quality Picture/Sound is substantially improved.
Tivo now has a new box called "Edge" - which claims to process and display UHD/4K recordings. I don't get it, though, since all information is still coming through a coax cable to the Tivo and then HDMI to the set. Wouldn't high quality broadcasting still be limited to internet feeds?
