Red Sox Rumors - Just Kidding
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I didn't see the Martin signing coming at all.....FO is keeping stuff under wraps.... I would not be surprised to see a signing or a trade that comes completely our of left field (figuratively speaking).
Rumor has it that the Red Sox should not have allowed Bogaerts to test the market.
View: https://twitter.com/marino_pepen/status/1599760319538425858?s=46&t=75wfrMSM5hZo3hgnNgujgQ
Translated by Google:
Good morning my people!
Happy Monday!
Xander Bogaerts has been the most acclaimed of the four star SS in free agency. His durability, consistent hitting and improved defense are factors in his favor.
#RedSox should not have allowed him to test the market...
We continue, Positive and OK.
View: https://twitter.com/marino_pepen/status/1599760319538425858?s=46&t=75wfrMSM5hZo3hgnNgujgQ
Translated by Google:
Good morning my people!
Happy Monday!
Xander Bogaerts has been the most acclaimed of the four star SS in free agency. His durability, consistent hitting and improved defense are factors in his favor.
#RedSox should not have allowed him to test the market...
We continue, Positive and OK.
ummmm.. He has Boras as is agent.. He was ALWAYS going to test the market... Otherwise he would not have hired Boras
This. If you hire Boras, you're testing the market. And frankly speaking, if my union could afford to hire Boras for our next contract negotiation? I would support it.
The time to try to lock him up was last off-season; perhaps had they approached him with an offer equal to or better than Semien’s, he would have accepted. I’m sure the signing of Story and the subsequent 4/80 offer solidified his intent to test the market.
In this day and age, a player of Xander's caliber not choosing to test the market would be foolish.
This
Let me know when he signs. I'll wait to see where, how long, and how much before I pass judgement or rejoice.
Exactly. I imagine one could tweet that any of the other 29 MLB teams is "not close" to bringing in Bogaerts and it would be just as true and meaningful as Jon Morosi's "news".
Not a Sox rumor, but just heard on MLB Network that Verrlander heading to NY Mets 2/86 plus a vesting option for 3rd year.
How many times does the same info get regurgitated.... and how many times do people believe it's brand new news?
The market does look nuts. But on the other hand, the only nutty contracts (imo) given out so far this year have been from the Mets and Rangers, who were exactly the two ownership groups that set the market way above what it ended up being last year. So IDK.
(But I agree that they should have QO'd Wacha)
Big difference between DeGrom, Verlander, and Wacha. I'll still take the under on Wacha getting something resembling the QO.
Wacha had a .260 BABIP last year after running BABIPs over .310 for the three previous years. He's due for massive regression.
On the bright side, Paxton at 1/$4.2 million is looking pretty good. On paper anyway.
What also looks pretty good are homegrown starting pitchers, and guys like Whitlock and Pivetta. But if Bello has a good '23, really smart would be trying to figure out long term deals then.
This looks promising. I still don't know who it is, but if I recall correctly you said you've seen good information from him in the past, so fingers crossed
Correct me if I'm wrong, but isn't this Xander's first go at free agency because he already signed a fairly team-friendly deal that bought out some arb years? Also, did Jason Varitek- a Boras client- ever get to FA? There are at least a few examples of Boras clients not heading to FA and squeezing every last dollar out of the market.
Just scanned through this anonymous tweet creature's feed, and all it is is throwing shit at the wall. Throw enough and something will stick and, presto, he's an insider. I only scrolled back a week and it seems like he's linked Rodon with half the league.
I get that it's just the rumors thread, but holy shit is that well below board standards for a "source".
Eh, I disagree and I don't think the known beat reporters are any better, but it is a rumor thread. I kind of disagree with this thread existing on the main board at all, but since it does, it is for rumors. That doesn't mean anyone has to take any of them seriously.
We went down this road the last time that Twitter feed was posted. We're just going to have to live with it. Best we can do is continue to post what utter crap it is.
Yeah, I just did the same ... 15 minutes or so before saying the Sox he had the Yankees in on Rodon. Oh well.
It reads like a terminally online person trying to gain clout as a supposed insider.
The beat guys at least have opportunities and the connections to talk to front office folks, players, and agents. Some of what they report might be bullshit that's being fed to them for the purposes of disinformation, but they're still getting it from the right places. Anonymous twitter trolls are just that, trolls.
This thread generally sucks, but why make it worse with below standard "sourcing"? I mean, other than to troll the thread. If the thread shouldn't exist, then just fucking lock it.
I mean, he did just say that Verlander would be wrapped up today and then like a half hour later the deal was announced.
But the point with this one specifically, everyone already knew the Yankees are in on Rodon. This is potentially new info, I hadn't seen anyone mention Rodon connected to BOS before. He doesn't say they're going to get him, just that they are at the 'forefront of negotiations'. Again, it's the rumors thread, shit changes fast and of course most of them will end up wrong.
But the point with this one specifically, everyone already knew the Yankees are in on Rodon. This is potentially new info, I hadn't seen anyone mention Rodon connected to BOS before. He doesn't say they're going to get him, just that they are at the 'forefront of negotiations'. Again, it's the rumors thread, shit changes fast and of course most of them will end up wrong.
I’ve peeked in on the LioninTexas account over the last week and it does seem to have some insight, but YMMV. They posted yesterday that the Mets were “very focused” on Verlander.
And this, now, FWIW.
View: https://twitter.com/lionintexas10/status/1599830904498982912?s=46&t=RWuUjmFZdrM8WAPRZjLpJg
And this, now, FWIW.
View: https://twitter.com/lionintexas10/status/1599830904498982912?s=46&t=RWuUjmFZdrM8WAPRZjLpJg
I simply don't agree that this is the way things work now. Beat reporters generally don't leak advance info, they post what they're told to and what they're allowed to, usually once things have actually happened. Have we all forgotten about KatyPerrysBootyHole and wetbutt23?
https://www.nbcsports.com/chicago/chicago-white-sox/wetbutt23-and-katyperrysbootyhole-reddit-users-who-scooped-baseball-world-jose-quintana-eloy-jimenez-dylan-cease-theo-epstein
Oh, well if a couple anonymous tweeters got something right five years ago, then we should just trust them all as worthy of our attention. Like I said, this guy you keep quoting throws a ton of shit out there and every once in a while something he "reports" turns out to happen. Doesn't make him right or well connected. It just makes him lucky. It's not as though he was the only one who suggested or thought the Mets would be in on Verlander.
https://www.bostonglobe.com/2022/12/05/sports/red-sox-made-three-year-offer-jos-abreu-it-didnt-come-close-what-he-signed-with-astros/
Feel like if the reports that Abreu was our # 1 target were true, our offer would have been higher than what is reported above..
https://theathletic.com/3969387/2022/12/05/red-sox-winter-meetings-outcomes/
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So they were off by 33% on an offer to their top target? That’s pretty alarming. Have they just completely misjudged the market?
Could also indicate the front office completely misread the market. Or could indicate they're hunting for value and waiting for a player in this class of FAs to be this year's Trevor Story.
Allow me to officially register my skepticism that the Sox are in on Rodon:
View: https://twitter.com/BrendanKutyNJ/status/1599820045760495616?cxt=HHwWgIDUwd_22bMsAAAA
View: https://twitter.com/BrendanKutyNJ/status/1599820045760495616?cxt=HHwWgIDUwd_22bMsAAAA
Note that the real Passan only tweets actual news, he doesn’t do the “hearing [Team X] might be in on [Player Y]” type of rumormongering.