You want to cut Dalbec? I don't think he is a terrible bench 1B who can give you a little bit of flexibility and can hit LHP (.877 OPS for his career). Not sure what else you would want.
Justin Turner declines option (11.03.23 update)
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Urias could easily be a non-tender.
https://www.si.com/mlb/red-sox/news/red-sox-infielder-almost-certainly-will-be-cut-by-boston-this-offseason-scott7
Not a fan of this happening. He'd immediately become the best projected 2B bat on the market, and the youngest.
(Drury - 101)
Urias - 100 wRC+ (per Steamer)
Valdez - 97
Kemp - 97
Rosario - 96
Wong - 93
Tim Anderson - 92
Frazier - 92
Reyes - 91
Odor - 88
Merrifield - 85
Andrus - 84
If Urias's true market # is less than his arb #, they could always agree to something below what he would earn in arb in order to avoid letting him go. But I tend to agree with chawson that he doesn't have to be particularly good to be better than a lot of the alternatives & $4.7m isn't exactly a prohibitive sum of money if they like the player.
What if they did like a 1/$4m contract with a $10m team option in '25 with a $700k buyout?
What if they did like a 1/$4m contract with a $10m team option in '25 with a $700k buyout?
Did Cotillo (source of that SI article) ever state what he expects them to do in place of Urias? I'm deeply skeptical of them trying to "save" by cutting him.
A K rate under 50% would be a good place to start. I don't want to see him in Boston again. Hoping they can trade him to give him a shot with a tanking team or something.
We should all be ecstatic if Story’s bat bounced back enough next year to be a viable sometime DH. If it doesn’t bounce back, we should enjoy his superlative defense at SS and keep his whiffing bat at the bottom of the lineup. (Edit: and give DH at-bats to players who can actually hit.)
This is the article it's from:
https://www.masslive.com/redsox/2023/10/red-sox-roster-analysis-infield-largely-set-but-2b-dh-questions-linger.html
& here's his paragraph about external options...
Agreed, and I think @JM3 is on the same page. Urias is not very expensive, adequate defensively, and has a pretty high floor as a high OBP guy even if his power doesn't bounce back all the way. He was a 3 bWAR player in back-to-back years, which would've made him one of the best players on the team last year. We need solid two-way position players like him.
I think going in with him and Valdez is a good option, and hopefully allows us to spend and/or trade for better elsewhere
Yeah, not really a Whitliever. Blue Jays only gave him 2 post season PAs, among the numerous other issues others have mentioned. Not really someone I want to spend $$$ on. Would rather hand the position to Yorke than pay real $ for Merrifield. & would probably rather start the season with Urias & maybe Valdez than either of those options.
I mean, a 5'8 guy doesn't present a great target at 1B. He's played all of 6 games in his career at 1st, all in '22 with the Astros AAA team & made 1 error.
Here's his breakdown of games by position across all levels...
2B - 384 games, 51 errors
3B - 135 games, 19 errors
LF - 23 games, 1 error
1B - 6 games, 1 error
SS - 3 games, 0 errors
RF - 1 game, 0 errors
C - 1 game, 0 errors
So far in the Dominican Winter League he has played exclusively 2B & has 2 errors in 9 games & is OPS'ing .499. Not really prepared to count on him in the field right now.
No, I think if AZ is trying to lure Turner, they're probably going to need to go two years. I don't think he makes much sense on the current roster, forget about giving a second year.
I've seen it posted elsewhere, but Matt Chapman makes more sense for Arizona ... given the premium they place on defense, and the veteran (if in decline) bat
Problem is I don't see them giving the money it will take to get Chapman, but a two year 24 millionish deal for Turner makes sense for them and doesn't break the bank.
An hour long non business meeting? That can’t be real when you’re talking to a FA to be for an hour and the future never comes up?
Breslow won't be able to meet with Turner once he's signed elsewhere, so maybe he wanted to get a veteran's opinion on Sox operations, especially one who came from years with a successful club.
A good sign for those hoping Turner comes back.
https://x.com/jeffpassan/status/1727405335256674584?s=46&t=Tl7uNH0-pxEyJtNj1BktDA
Trade news, per ESPN sources:
Arizona Diamondbacks acquire third baseman Eugenio Suarez.
Seattle Mariners acquire reliever Carlos Vargas and catcher Seby Zavala.
Diamondbacks get their third baseman. Mariners move money off the books and get a live arm and backup catcher.
https://x.com/jeffpassan/status/1727405335256674584?s=46&t=Tl7uNH0-pxEyJtNj1BktDA
Trade news, per ESPN sources:
Arizona Diamondbacks acquire third baseman Eugenio Suarez.
Seattle Mariners acquire reliever Carlos Vargas and catcher Seby Zavala.
Diamondbacks get their third baseman. Mariners move money off the books and get a live arm and backup catcher.
If moving Suarez and his $11M was a cost saving move then bringing in Turner at what might be a higher price probably isn't in the cards.
