Red Sox sign Marwin Gonzalez (1 year, 3 mil)

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Worth noting that of this winter's free agent class of starting pitchers, Richards is going to be paid the 5th highest AAV of the group. The only pitchers getting more than him this year are Bauer ($34M), Morton ($15M), Kluber ($11M), and Smyly ($11M). It speaks to how thin the market was.
And other than Bauer that's 2 guys with big injury potential, Smyly who other than his 26 innings last year hasn't been a good pitcher in 6 years, and a 37 year old Morton

Next year is the year to cash your chips in if you're looking for starting pitching
 

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Gonzalez is really struggling with pitches right over the heart of the plate.

He's worst in MLB so far on pitches thrown right in the middle of the strike zone. His looking at those pitches has cost a few runs (-3) relative to the average player, and when he does swing, he's just not making the kind of hard contact you'd expect (-10 runs relative to all other players' swings against meatballs).
I'm far from the most stat advanced member here, but I don't even know what to do with this. Is every pitch over the heart of the plate considered a meatball?
 

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I'm far from the most stat advanced member here, but I don't even know what to do with this. Is every pitch over the heart of the plate considered a meatball?
I can't really answer that, but zooming out more generally, Marwin hasn't been good at the plate for a while now. Since the start of 2020 (96 games) he's slashing .206/.289/.304 with 6 HR. Interestingly, he's not one of the countless strikeout victims we see so many of in 2021 -- he's still making contact at respectable rates and isn't striking out a ton (24% this year compared to 20% for his career, swinging strike percentage not terrible). According to statcast, his xBA is somewhat better than what he's shown so far (.235) so there's some hope of at least slight improvement, although .235 would still not be much to write home about.

That's the "what," sort of. But it sounds like Hairps might have a better sense of the "why" to help understand why he's struggling so much?
 

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I'm far from the most stat advanced member here, but I don't even know what to do with this. Is every pitch over the heart of the plate considered a meatball?
I'm no expert, but maybe it's helpful to think about it this way...

We can assign a run value to pitches thrown at certain places in the strike zone (and around it). 25% of all pitches are thrown into the "heart" of the plate -- as defined in the first graphic linked to in my post. Batters will swing at those pitches 75% of the time. When they don't, they are almost always called strikes (I think it's safe to assume they're called strikes all of the time, but maybe not). Because these pitches are thrown right down the heart of the plate, the resulting run values of balls into play when a batter swings at them will tend to be high. That hasn't been the case, however, with Gonzalez yet so far this season.

If you look at the very right of his Swing/Take chart at the first link -- he's taking about 5% more pitches thrown down the heart of the plate than an average MLB hitter (27% of the time vs. 32% of the time). By doing so, he's cost himself 3 expected runs (-3 in the chart).

If you look again at the very right of that chart -- when he does swing at pitches thrown down the heart of the plate, he is just not hitting the ball with any authority (-10 runs compared to what the average hitter to swings at balls in the heart of the strike zone would produce).

No way I'll be able to figure out how to post two different graphics next to each other in a post, but compare this to, say, Max Muncy.

As you can see on the very right of Muncy's graphic, he too costs himself a few runs by taking so many pitches in the heart of the zone (-5). This passes the smell test to me, as he's known for his very selective approach at the plate. In contrast to Gonzalez, however, look at what happens when Muncy does swing at those pitches: +17 runs, meaning he is making excellent contact on them.

Hope that helps.
 

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I'm no expert, but maybe it's helpful to think about it this way...

We can assign a run value to pitches thrown at certain places in the strike zone (and around it). 25% of all pitches are thrown into the "heart" of the plate -- as defined in the first graphic linked to in my post. Batters will swing at those pitches 75% of the time. When they don't, they are almost always called strikes (I think it's safe to assume they're called strikes all of the time, but maybe not). Because these pitches are thrown right down the heart of the plate, the resulting run values of balls into play when a batter swings at them will tend to be high. That hasn't been the case, however, with Gonzalez yet so far this season.

If you look at the very right of his Swing/Take chart at the first link -- he's taking about 5% more pitches thrown down the heart of the plate than an average MLB hitter (27% of the time vs. 32% of the time). By doing so, he's cost himself 3 expected runs (-3 in the chart).

If you look again at the very right of that chart -- when he does swing at pitches thrown down the heart of the plate, he is just not hitting the ball with any authority (-10 runs compared to what the average hitter to swings at balls in the heart of the strike zone would produce).

No way I'll be able to figure out how to post two different graphics next to each other in a post, but compare this to, say, Max Muncy.

As you can see on the very right of Muncy's graphic, he too costs himself a few runs by taking so many pitches in the heart of the zone (-5). This passes the smell test to me, as he's known for his very selective approach at the plate. In contrast to Gonzalez, however, look at what happens when Muncy does swing at those pitches: +17 runs, meaning he is making excellent contact on them.

Hope that helps.
I really do appreciate the time and effort you put into this. My brain isn't wired to break down mathematical formulas, but if his swing and connect numbers on pitches over the heart of the plate are terrible, might he be better off in some circumstances not to swing? Is it possible he costs the team base runners and potential runs by doing this in certain situations. I'm not advocating that he does, I mean you hate to see a guy take that sort of pitch, but wondering if that might be the case.
 

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I really do appreciate the time and effort you put into this. My brain isn't wired to break down mathematical formulas, but if his swing and connect numbers on pitches over the heart of the plate are terrible, might he be better off in some circumstances not to swing? Is it possible he costs the team base runners and potential runs by doing this in certain situations. I'm not advocating that he does, I mean you hate to see a guy take that sort of pitch, but wondering if that might be the case.
The problem seems to be that a.) he is also taking too many of these pitches, and since they are all but guaranteed strikes, it's also bad for him to not swing, and b.) these are, in essence, the best pitches to swing at, so it's not like he is choosing between these pitches and some different location that he is always crushing.
 

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Maybe if he knew what pitch was coming, he'd improve?

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Obviously you're joking, but he did slash .303/.377/.530 in 2018 compared to his career .258/.316/.407. He's not really struggling as though he has much of an offensive level to return to, he's just a declining marginal player continuing his 2020 struggles.
 

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I really do appreciate the time and effort you put into this. My brain isn't wired to break down mathematical formulas, but if his swing and connect numbers on pitches over the heart of the plate are terrible, might he be better off in some circumstances not to swing? Is it possible he costs the team base runners and potential runs by doing this in certain situations. I'm not advocating that he does, I mean you hate to see a guy take that sort of pitch, but wondering if that might be the case.
If he can't reliably connect on pitches over the heart of the plate, he probably doesn't belong in the bigs.
 

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Marwin’s been one of the most shift-affected hitters in the league this year, at least as a LHH. Statcast has him underperforming his wOBA by .84 points. That would be third-“unluckiest” among regulars except it’s misleading to call it unlucky — he just keeps hitting right into the shift. He’s likely compensating by swinging harder, which has led to less contact.

Though Marwin’s a switch hitter, his decline is an interesting illustration of how widening use of the shift has faded the Brock Holt-type (typical LHH slap-hitting utility infielder, who offered a platoon option for typically right-hand-hitting infielders), in favor of RHH ones (like Arroyo), who are less susceptible to the shift. This was another big reason why I was glad we didn’t sign Kolten Wong, who like Holt and Marwin is getting gobbled up by defensive alignment.