Red Sox Trade Deadline 2022

Ale Xander

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Yeah, I was prepared to watch a team with a few key pieces elbow it's way into the post season. . .or a team that was going to try to develop some prospects over the summer.

Now I'm not really sure what I'm going to see. But if this is it, I can't say I'm particularly revved up for it.

The Hosmer fit at Fenway will be interesting.

And who knows, they may actually get a WC spot? Especially when Baltimore seems to have conceded.
Balmer Franching and JRod injury gives me hope for WC3
Just need a couple teams above them to struggle
 

Petagine in a Bottle

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Yeah all that talk last night about how this was going to be a crazy day for the Sox, feels more than a bit underwhelming. Can’t tell if we are coming or going. Didn’t clear enough payroll to get under the cap. Added some middling pieces for this year and maybe next? Meh
 

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I guess they decided a ~30 percent chance at a 3rd Wild Card spot was worth letting Eovaldi and JDM go at the end of the year for 4th round picks. Can't say I'm wild about that decision.
 

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I'm sure we'll get some lip service about how deals were out there but they just couldn't come to an agreement (translation: we wanted too much for what little we had of worth in this collection of mostly trash and business went elsewhere).
 

Ale Xander

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Kind of feels like Bloom was on Let’s Make a Deal and he just had a panic attack on door 1 and 2 choice, mainly because of the CV move, and on taking 2 prospects instead of more $ from SD
 

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What's wild is that Giants still have Rodón, the Cubs still have Contreras and Happ. A ton of teams that seem to me like they should have been motivated to sell just... didn't.
 

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Seems like the FO is qualifying offering Eovaldi and JD and didn’t think the deadline returns were worth more than having those guys on 1 year deals in ‘23 (since I think they’re precisely the level of good-but-not-great FAs where the QO kills the market).
 

Petagine in a Bottle

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Both will be given a QO. Vaz wouldn’t get one and he was traded for what they could get. I think it’s that simple.
Isn’t JD pretty much a lock to accept it?

Can someone explain to me the logic of the Padres paying all of Hosmer’s salary and giving up prospects? Why not just release him? What’s the benefit?
 

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So what was the point of trading Vazquez if you're holding on to everyone else? Disappointing deadline.
Overall, that's the most puzzling part of this to me. Hosmer and Pham are at least upgrades to current black holes. . .perhaps also adequate stopgaps for next year if Pham fits the org. and a deal can be reached.

But then you hold onto all your pending FA players - except your catcher, who is a + player. . .who you trade for prospects.
 

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If, when, Devers, Story, Hernandez, and Wacha, are back in this lineup without Dalbec and Franchy this team will produce and stay very much in the Wild Card hunt.
 

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Overall, that's the most puzzling part of this to me. Hosmer and Pham are at least upgrades to current black holes. . .perhaps also adequate stopgaps for next year if Pham fits the org. and a deal can be reached.

But then you hold onto all your pending FA players - except your catcher, who is a + player. . .who you trade for prospects.
I think the most logical answer is that Bloom tried to hedge between adding to the organization but not tossing in the towel on the team. Or at least that's what he's done. Maybe, like some here think he should do, he's gonna look in the mirror and see "failure: because he really intended to throw in the towel and failed.
I, for one, am glad that the team isnt likely to get worse in the next 2 months.
 

Brianish

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How do you not trade Nate and JD for the best possible return? I don’t get it.
It's tough to avoid the impression that the front office overplayed their hand. Those two in particular were connected to plenty of teams in the last week, and every single one of them filled the position from elsewhere.
 
Put me in the "meh" crowd, assuming nothing else coming. I think the team is about the same, maybe modestly better than before the deadline and we've added some value for the future but the needle didn't really move much in either area. So I'd say a positive outcome, but not sure it outweighs the opportunity cost.

Not sure why we held on to JD and Evo, but I'm not going to assume that Bloom is an idiot or whatever. It's possible there just wasn't a good offer out there. Just like with extending X/Devers/whomever, it takes two to tango.
 

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Overall, that's the most puzzling part of this to me. Hosmer and Pham are at least upgrades to current black holes. . .perhaps also adequate stopgaps for next year if Pham fits the org. and a deal can be reached.

But then you hold onto all your pending FA players - except your catcher, who is a + player. . .who you trade for prospects.
Valdez is sadly probably their best option at 2B right now. & even in a good year Vaz has been worth only 1.8 WAR, so what are you giving up be trading him? Pessimistically one game over the rest of the season? (McGuire has been worth 0.6 in more limited playing time)
 

joe dokes

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It's tough to avoid the impression that the front office overplayed their hand. Those two in particular were connected to plenty of teams in the last week, and every single one of them filled the position from elsewhere.
Its not that tough at all. Putting aside what "connected to" means. dumping them for whatever they could get/less than they think theyre worth while gutting the team would be a bad move.
 

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I think this improves the chance we're re-signing Eovaldi, right? If we're over the cap and he'd be worth a 4th round pick, might as well spend some of our boatload of cash to keep him around.
 

joe dokes

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So I guess the Sox are still trying to contend? They got 1B/RF help they needed and only lost Vaz. I wasn't expecting that.
I really thought I read Bloom say almost exactly that last week. He wasn't lying when he said he didnt think they were out of it.
 

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So I guess the Sox are still trying to contend? They got 1B/RF help they needed and only lost Vaz. I wasn't expecting that.
Devers is back tonight. Story will be back soon. Wacha and Hill are coming back. We filled holes at 1B and OF. No reason they can’t contend.
 

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No real rhyme or reason to this deadline, or at least it feels like there was no overarching plan. Moving Vazquez but not Martinez or Eovaldi is hard to understand. Adding Hosmer and Pham ups the floor by a little but at the potential cost of blocking roster spots next year with declining veterans. The prospects added are more depth options than likely impact players. No real salary or tax relief either. The clubhouse lost a vocal leader, which clearly upset those players still remaining. All told: minor upgrades for the rest of the season (which may be canceled out by the drop from Vazquez to McGuire/Plawecki/Wong) and no real change to the 2023 and beyond calculus. Frustrating, to say the least.
 

nvalvo

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I think this improves the chance we're re-signing Eovaldi, right? If we're over the cap and he'd be worth a 4th round pick, might as well spend some of our boatload of cash to keep him around.
This is my sense as well. I like the guy, but I would be wary of going over one year for the guy who is already the most accomplished 2x TJS pitcher of all time.
 

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No real rhyme or reason to this deadline, or at least it feels like there was no overarching plan. Moving Vazquez but not Martinez or Eovaldi is hard to understand. Adding Hosmer and Pham ups the floor by a little but at the potential cost of blocking roster spots next year with declining veterans. The prospects added are more depth options than likely impact players. No real salary or tax relief either. The clubhouse lost a vocal leader, which clearly upset those players still remaining. All told: minor upgrades for the rest of the season (which may be canceled out by the drop from Vazquez to McGuire/Plawecki/Wong) and no real change to the 2023 and beyond calculus. Frustrating, to say the least.
Who would Pham and Hosmer block, and how?