Hoplite said:
As a couple of people mentioned up thread, this would have been my thinking years ago before we saw players beat federal cases being pursued by committed prosecutors and lie under oath to Congress and stuff.
Report: A-Rod banned through 2014?
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As a couple of people mentioned up thread, this would have been my thinking years ago before we saw players beat federal cases being pursued by committed prosecutors and lie under oath to Congress and stuff.
Maybe he just realized how much money his lawyers are charging and how much he has left. Road is now clear for 2015. Do Yanks just give him the remaining $61M and cut him loose? Hope so.
All the retired PEDs players should form a barnstorming team and tour the country, playing games in small towns. Manny, Alex, Sosa, Palmeiro, Clemens, et al. Might be redemptive. They're not criminals. They just cheated.
All the retired PEDs players should form a barnstorming team and tour the country, playing games in small towns. Manny, Alex, Sosa, Palmeiro, Clemens, et al. Might be redemptive. They're not criminals. They just cheated.
Reverend said:
I'm not a lawyer, but it seems like there's a lot more documentation of A-Rod's PED use than there was of other players like Clemens. If A-Rod was to lie under oath an be convicted of perjury, he'd also risk losing out on the $60 million or so left on his contract. And more PED use may come to light than we already know about. I think he'd have a lot more to lose than he would stand to gain by going through with these lawsuits.
Reverend said:
It's not just the potential criminal liability that's at stake. There are three related issues. One was the arb hearing itself, Two are/were the civil suits, and Three is any potential criminal liability that arises from them or from the testimony they generate.
If Arod testified at the arb hearing, it would likely have been disastrous for him for all three fronts. Additionally, in a civil suit you can basically go after anything in discovery that might reasonably lead to admissible evidence. If ARod were deposed (testimony under oath), vis a vis the civil suits, it would also have been a nightmare for him.
There's also the possibility of MLB counter-suing and/or seeking attorney's fees and costs. Plus the PR hit.
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While perjury charges can arise from purely civil actions, it's very rare.
terrynever said:
How much he has left? Given that he's earned over $350 million during the course of his career, unless he's been using burning $100 bills to keep his house warm in the winter, I would imagine he has plenty left.
Now, if what it was costing him would be worth what he would be getting back by winning, that's a different matter.
terrynever said:
Isn't the possession and use of prescription drugs without a prescription a crime?
terrisus said:
I have no idea who is promoting this fantasy, but I feel compelled to point out that new owners need a significant majority of existing owners (75%) to approve the transaction.
A-Rod will never be an MLB owner.
glennhoffmania said:
ARod's a dick, but anyone could see that and should have planned accordingly. But the lawyers who are owed the money screwed up, too. (NOT in a malpractice sort of way). *No* lawyer lets a bill like that accrue without getting the client to add to his retainer. Chasing money is the surest route to getting sued for malpractice. The lawyer could have done the greatest job in history and still lose. The chances of getting stiffed increase exponentially after that. And there are many, many lawyers who will just say fuck it and get a release from the client in exchange for waiving the bill.
Hoplite said:
I think they've shown that that's irrelevant. They're going to buy up players every year they suck regardless of any cap implications.
Hoplite said:
glennhoffmania said:
Yeah, pretty much. The only reason it would have sucked this year is if it allowed them to get under the luxury cap and reset their tax amount.
Since they've shown they have no interest at all in that, it's more enjoyable to be able to mock Rodriguez (and potentially find out about all the stuff he was doing while with the Yankees).
Poor ARod. I'm guessing he got mad when he finally realized that his lawyers knew he had no shot when they were encouraging him to fight the ban and add on all those extra billable hours.
joe dokes said:
There's likely a clause in the retainer adding costs, interest and attorney fees to collection actions, possibly stipulating arbitration.
If A-Rod files a malpractice suit, he'll have to prove the usual: duty, breach, causation, damages. (Depending on the nature of the claim and the jurisdiction, he might even have to prove that but for the breach, he would have prevailed.)
I'm really not sure how he does that based on the litigation we've seen. Seems like no stone was left unturned by A-Rod's team and he simply lost.
In todays Newsday: http://tinyurl.com/lnqscxk
"Major League Baseball ignored repeated warnings that records they sought in the Alex Rodriguez Biogenesis scandal had been stolen and that they were not to purchase them, according to Florida investigators and an April police report obtained by Newsday."
"Major League Baseball ignored repeated warnings that records they sought in the Alex Rodriguez Biogenesis scandal had been stolen and that they were not to purchase them, according to Florida investigators and an April police report obtained by Newsday."
Oh please, please, please make sure this happens. Please baseball gods. NY deserves this theater. Still can't believe how they got off scott-free this year. In both money and circus.
InsideTheParker said:
I think so. He will never be celebrated again, but if he comes back and produces, I expect that the initial negative reaction he gets will diminish significantly. If he comes back and is terrible, the gloves are off. Its all laundry.
Now the context:terrynever said:
http://espn.go.com/new-york/mlb/story/_/id/11168102/alex-rodriguez-given-permission-mlb-use-testosterone-book-says
bankshot1 said:
1) Getting involved in a public lawsuit with a former attorney is usually a very bad idea if you have any hidden dirt related to the issue. It might not come out immediately, depending on the shape the suit takes, but ultimately the attorney can reveal anything related to defending himself or proving his claims. This includes the client lying to you, changing their story about what happened, you discovering independent evidence and confronting the client with it, etc.
2) FWIW, I recently spoke to a MLB employee (not a club employee). This person was convinced that ARod juiced from HS onward. There were a number of anecdotes put out there especially about early growth/muscle mass spurts and changes in scouting reports over time. I can't really narrow him down without giving away who he is. I suspect whatever came out in the arb hearing was only part of the file MLB has on ARod.
Rovin Romine said:
Hiring the best lawyer you can afford and then refusing to pay him while accusing him of misconduct is probably on the list of Things Not To Do somewhere near, "Get into a public confrontation with a clown."
glennhoffmania said:
Yeah I know it's a pain when people do this. I'd attribute it but I don't have express permission to. We were drinking together at a charity event and started talking baseball. So, chalk it up as a rumorish level of reliability or what-have-you. I just thought it was interesting enough to pass along.
Follow the money right? Cheats to make more. Sues MLB in attempt to reduce his suspension (and maximize what $$ he's due). Won't pay his attorney because they didn't get his "money" back.
I'm still disbelieving he was willing to take less to come to the Sox. Must have been part of a larger money strategy.
I'm still disbelieving he was willing to take less to come to the Sox. Must have been part of a larger money strategy.
God, that picture's from that nauseating first photo shoot they did at the Stadium after the trade. Is it me or does it look like he's wearing one of those omnipresent NYC bootleg Yankee hats?
A TRUE YANKEE!!
So guess that Arod was lying again!!!! SURPRISE!!
the Miami Herald reports that A-Rod admitted to PED use to the Drug Enforcement Administration back in January.
"The Herald had access to a 15-page synopsis of A-Rod's meeting with the DEA, and from that they report that Rodriguez admitted to the use of "substances prohibited by Major League Baseball" between late 2010 and October 2012. Rodriguez also explained how Anthony Bosch, the man behind Biogenesis, explained to A-Rod how to beat Baseball's drug tests in order to get away with his use.
For this confession, Rodriguez reportedly received immunity. Obviously, he did not get it from Baseball, but losing a season is superior to having the government chasing after you."
http://www.sbnation.com/mlb/2014/11/5/7160121/alex-rodriguez-peds-steroids-biogenesis
http://www.miamiherald.com/sports/mlb/article3578762.html
Alex Rodriguez’s DEA confession: Yes, I used steroids from fake Miami doctor
Read more here: http://www.miamiherald.com/sports/mlb/article3578762.html#storylink=cpy
So guess that Arod was lying again!!!! SURPRISE!!
the Miami Herald reports that A-Rod admitted to PED use to the Drug Enforcement Administration back in January.
"The Herald had access to a 15-page synopsis of A-Rod's meeting with the DEA, and from that they report that Rodriguez admitted to the use of "substances prohibited by Major League Baseball" between late 2010 and October 2012. Rodriguez also explained how Anthony Bosch, the man behind Biogenesis, explained to A-Rod how to beat Baseball's drug tests in order to get away with his use.
For this confession, Rodriguez reportedly received immunity. Obviously, he did not get it from Baseball, but losing a season is superior to having the government chasing after you."
http://www.sbnation.com/mlb/2014/11/5/7160121/alex-rodriguez-peds-steroids-biogenesis
http://www.miamiherald.com/sports/mlb/article3578762.html
Alex Rodriguez’s DEA confession: Yes, I used steroids from fake Miami doctor
Read more here: http://www.miamiherald.com/sports/mlb/article3578762.html#storylink=cpy
I'm not surprised nor do I care. I'm happy these stories are coming out now so that by March we can talk about his ability to hit and play defense (or lack thereof).
crow216 said:
I believe the trial is in February, who knows what comes out of that. If his cousin really wanted to mess with him he would implicate him in the distribution of steroids to HS kids. That would likely earn Arod another suspension or worse, this one perhaps for life. Of course, his cousin would go down as well