I’m with you. No idea what the rule is but the whistle had no bearing on anybody stopping what they were doing. It being a 4-1 game probably goes into my feelings too.
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I don't think they were too crazy.
Coyle to 1C.
Reunited the Bertuzzi-Zacha-Pasta second line
Hall-Frederic-Foligno on the third line
Lauko-Nosek-Hathaway on the 4th line
I think it's probably about the best way to line those players up. About the only quibble might be with Foligno on the third line.
For those who are tuned into the salary cap, is there any way that they'll be able to retain Orlov, or is he just a rental?
Yeah, I was just reading the shift chart. I think because they buried Lauko and the first two lines skated about as much as possible, there were a few pretty confusing spots but overall, I think you are right.
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If he signed a team friendly deal, and either Carlo or Grzelcyk got traded, they could pull it off.
That was a surgical win; a clinic is more like it.
I thought Florida would storm the castle in the first period, the crowd would be all amped up and they'd have to weather that storm to have any chance of pulling this one out.
And it never happened.
Whatever rust/sickness/bug they had running through the team, that is now gone, they looked like the team I've watched for 82 games, Florida had little to no sustained pressure at any point.
Let's have a repeat performance of that on Sunday boys.
I thought Florida would storm the castle in the first period, the crowd would be all amped up and they'd have to weather that storm to have any chance of pulling this one out.
And it never happened.
Whatever rust/sickness/bug they had running through the team, that is now gone, they looked like the team I've watched for 82 games, Florida had little to no sustained pressure at any point.
Let's have a repeat performance of that on Sunday boys.
I'll give the counter.
Now, whenever the puck is even a little visible, it's open season. After all, the whistle doesn't mean anything. So poke away.
Perhaps the refs will stop blowing the whistle so early every time the puck is anywhere close to a goalie in this series..
Also.. I feel like Linus, for one, heard the whistle and stopped playing... he thought he had it trapped and then was upended.
If anything you don't want to set the precedent of allowing players to crash through a keeper if any part of a puck is visible and the whistle has blown? (Admittedly the puck was loose here).
In game 1, DeBrusk's goal was on a puck just sitting on the pads of Lyon that the refs thankfully did not blow the whistle on.
I’m still more mad about the shorty. Up 4-0 with what 6 minutes left? Goal there is to just kill 2 minutes. Just completely unacceptable to give up a goal. If that doesn’t happen the stupid second goal probably doesn’t happen anyway.
I still don’t think they look like the regular season Bs, but I’m willing to accept that may be some combination of opponent and the playoff level up.
Overall fantastic first ~54 minutes and last 2-3.
I still don’t think they look like the regular season Bs, but I’m willing to accept that may be some combination of opponent and the playoff level up.
Overall fantastic first ~54 minutes and last 2-3.
I think being down their top 2 centres, including the best two-way guys to lace them up, may also have contributed.
On another front, Grzelcyk had a quiet game, but that may be good. As I recall, he didn’t have any turnovers that put them in trouble, and he clearly held his own against some tough forwards.
This is a good point. It's not just the talent, it's how it affects the lines and chemistry. Find a way to grind through this series and that may also relieve a tiny bit of pressure too. Losing to the 8 seed would be entirely different than losing to the Leafs or Bolts.
Florida is also a good team that dealt with a bunch of injuries this year. They’re not the Penguins, who if they made it in and we lost to, I’d be completely embarrassed about. As we saw last night, even without their top 2 Cs, when the Bruins bring their game for most of the night, they can win comfortably, but they can’t let off the gas. You can’t really do that against anyone in the playoffs.
I thought this was just a fantastic game. McAvoy was a wrecking ball. The D distributed well and started going up the middle with pace instead of the boards when FLA cut off the boards on their forecheck. Hall and Coyle were flying. Bertuzzi is a passing wizard. And I also like having one of McAvoy/Lindholm/Orlov always on the ice. This is the game they need to bring tomorrow, and if they do that, we’ve got a close out game at home on an extra day of rest on Wednesday.
McAvoy was a stud last night.
Had 4-5 incredible hits, including the one on the opening shift to really set the tone.
View: https://twitter.com/ShawnHutcheon/status/1649613741925777410?s=20
I love him, love his game, but feel like he could turn the nastiness level up one or two in the playoffs and really become elite.
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I mean, this hit is just fucking awesome. That Lundell was trying to drop low to avoid the hit, and McAvoy STILL caught him clean, shoulder to shoulder, is awesome.
View: https://twitter.com/HockeyDaily365/status/1649594114319564805?s=20
Had 4-5 incredible hits, including the one on the opening shift to really set the tone.
View: https://twitter.com/ShawnHutcheon/status/1649613741925777410?s=20
I love him, love his game, but feel like he could turn the nastiness level up one or two in the playoffs and really become elite.
edit:
I mean, this hit is just fucking awesome. That Lundell was trying to drop low to avoid the hit, and McAvoy STILL caught him clean, shoulder to shoulder, is awesome.
View: https://twitter.com/HockeyDaily365/status/1649594114319564805?s=20
1000% this. The refs and the league cannot fuck around with this and gray-zone it. If they do, someone is going to get legitimately hurt and the Bruins should tell this group of refs that at puck drop in game 4. The story of that play is Florida should feel like they got legitimately screwed by a clearly too early whistle. And if I was a Florida fan I'd want to be pissed by the screw job, but to clearly, obviously blow the whistle and then let it stand as a goal sets a bad standard for play. Crazy.
Hard to have a big game from the bench too though. Grz seemed to get stuck riding the pine. It was like the coaches where anxious about actually using him.
I think Florida's route to winning this series was probably going to be the ongoing success of this move against the boards which really, really gave the Bruins trouble through the first 7 periods of the series. It is a good thing that the Bruins seemed to figure out a way to break it down.
I love hockey. I don't know how people do this though. Hockey is just not made for radio.
No choice, of course, last night.
Could be a separate thread, but it *really* depends on announcer quality and analyst skill at dropping in quickly without stepping on the action.
Beers is really good at the latter.
Hockey radio pbp seems really fucking hard. Sirotte is a good pbp guy. I think he gets too excited in the regular season too often, but that's not now.
Goucher was great.
Neumeier was awful.
Also, I got used to it long long ago, listening to Marv Albert doing the rangers on the radio late 60s and early 70s.
Agreed. Grz has wilted under playoff forecheck pressure in the past, but he looked fine last night. In fact I'd say his presence was a significant factor in their ability to break out last night as opposed to their Game 2 efforts.
This was the key difference IMO. Lindholm was hot garbage in Game 2, but he was back to his usual self last night. The simple truth is that the Bruins' defense is beyond elite as long as they're not coughing up the puck.
When I was in college, my alma mater was playing in the NCAA D1 semifinals (RPI vs Minn-Duluth, Adam Oates vs Brett Hull). While the final game was televised live, the semis were not (they would be on tape delay the following morning). This was the 1980's when TV coverage for hockey at any level was in the relative dark ages. So only way to listen at all was on WRPI (local college station). Game went into 3 OT's. Listened to every minute on the radio.
Fortunately, the college student play-by-play announcer for WRPI was actually really good. Like, he could actually describe the play and knew the sport. Not as good as say, Goucher or the late Bob Wilson or Fred Cusick (who did radio for some time before becoming full time TV). But definitely better than some of the lesser pbp announcers I've heard at the NHL level.
Got a day of classes cancelled (which literally never happened for any reason) when RPI won the title.
Havent we seen multiple examples of whistle being blown being reviewed and goals standing throughout the season? I'm not sure why everyone is so up in arms about this specific one.
Usually it's the opposite—goals are called back because the ref "intended to blow the whistle." And I can't remember one where the whistle actually went and they decided to ignore that fact.
This is super. I was one of the voices for WRPI from ‘94-2000. I mostly did color for hockey and pbp for football. We had an awesome time watching hockey from the Houston field house and around the country.
Yes, that shouldn't ever happen. It is asking for someone to get killed because they stopped playing at a whistle and another player didn't and drilled them.
A really good one like Beers or Goucher and I can close my eyes and see in my head what is happening on the ice.
I think it could be an age thing.. as an almost 50 year old I grew up listening to Johnny Most do almost every Celtics game.. listened to the Red Sox and occasionally listened to the Bruins.. (I still listen to any game I can get when I’m in the car) You can remember people bringing radios to live events just to hear about what they were seeing live. A good announcer can guide your imagination to make you feel like you’re there. I can specifically remember times listening to the crowd and the announcer describe the first Red Sox games of spring.
We didn’t have 1000 television channels growing up (from memory.. we had 2,4,5,7,25,38,44,56,68).. so radio was a necessity. We didn’t even have a remote! I remember flicking through the channels, clicking to 25, 38, 56 to try and catch games.
I wonder if that is sort of lost on younger generations that can see just about any game they want.
Hockey is probably the most difficult on radio-the best I’ve heard was Bob Wilson, who not only had golden pipes, but genuinely loved the game and conveyed excitement. When I was a kid the west coast games often were not broadcast on TV38, so I’d huddle in my room listening to Bob.
It was a great era for the Bs broadcasts, Cusick/Pierson on 38, Wilson on radio. I loved Sanderson when he replaced Pierson, but he had such obvious disdain for Dave Shea’s hockey knowledge when he was in the broadcast along with Fred. Anyone else feel that way? It made me kind of uncomfortable, like introducing two friends at a party, and they start arguing.
It was a great era for the Bs broadcasts, Cusick/Pierson on 38, Wilson on radio. I loved Sanderson when he replaced Pierson, but he had such obvious disdain for Dave Shea’s hockey knowledge when he was in the broadcast along with Fred. Anyone else feel that way? It made me kind of uncomfortable, like introducing two friends at a party, and they start arguing.
I am not that old, lol. Watching the games for years on TV gave me images to use as templates. So when they describe the action decently we'll, I can use those as mental references to create the image.
Wasn't intending to stereotype too much
. Just thought it may be a case where there is a difference between older and younger generations.. I don't know how many people still grow up listening to the radio.I have the type of mind where audio and visual cues get matched together.. so I can remember what I was doing when I heard certain things.. Think that helps (as it may with you) for the two senses to tie together... you may also just have a really good imagination. It's true though that really good announcers help paint the picture as well.