San Siro's Siren Call: 2015-16 UEFA Champions League

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Fernando wins the ball at midfield, starts a 3-on-2 break, hits a perfect pass to De Bruyne on the right. David "Sideshow Bob" Luiz gambled on breaking up the pass, couldn't get to it, and as a result is caught behind as De Bruyne takes a touch to get closer and buries it in the back of the net. 0-1 City.

...and 2 minutes later, Fernando fumbles the ball to Ibrahimovic right on the 18, who puts it quickly back over to goal for 1-1. Absolute mayhem.

edit: the latter reminds me of this, except instead of the keeper at fault it's the DM (in a CB's position).
 

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City drawing PSG in Paris is definitely unexpected. City has to be loving their chances in the return leg. Granted, considering how this season has gone they will likely lose by 2 goals.
 
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Today has the potential to be riveting. Can Real claw back from 2-0 down, or will Zizou's nightmare continue? Will James start?

Many thought that MANC-PSG was the most exciting matchup of the round and the first leg did not disappoint. PSG will need to come out firing, since the return leg is at the Etihad. I don't see this ending 1-0 to PSG. Kompany is out for MANC, but looks like Otamendi and Silva are in. The big injury questions for PSG revolve around Verratti. I believe Pastore had a knock as well, but I don't think he's going to be in this.
 

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What's Zizou's nightmare? They beat Barca, he's playing lineups he wants, he's kept Real in the title mix. Sure if they get bounced by Wolfsburg that would be disappointing however they can easily win the tie. I know there was some hyperbole in your writing give you are a Barca fan but I just don't see Real's situation as a nightmare. I think they are in a lot better place than a few months ago.
 

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Zizou's nightmare is they win no hardware while Barca is still in line to win an unprecedented back to back treble. Maybe it's more Real's nightmare, but at this point that has to be shared by Zizou to a certain extent.
 

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Gotcha. That makes more sense.

I'd keep the nightmares separate given a lot of the damage was done pre-Zidane. Thus far I think he's positioned himself to be the manager next season. But who knows with Real.
 

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Fair enough. Using your separation of nightmares paradigm, I bet Zizou thought he could bring home at least one piece of hardware. So, while this isn't a nightmare, no hardware is basically a worst case scenario. Worse scenarios, such as the team quitting on him or dropping out of a UCL slot in the league aren't realistic for a club of Real's stature, Chelsea example notwithstanding.
 

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Fair enough. Using your separation of nightmares paradigm, I bet Zizou thought he could bring home at least one piece of hardware. So, while this isn't a nightmare, no hardware is basically a worst case scenario. Worse scenarios, such as the team quitting on him or dropping out of a UCL slot in the league aren't realistic for a club of Real's stature, Chelsea example notwithstanding.
They were already out of Copa Del Rey. They are 11-2-1 (lone loss was 0-1 to atletico) with six wins in a row in the league since he took over. That's right at pace with AM and Barca. Can't complain too much there. Then there's the CL. If they come back today, they are in the semis. Not bad at all.
 

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So everything is in Real´s favor now...Please just hold on Wolfsburg. Please let Pepe combine with Marcelo for a bycicle-own-goal or smth like that...I cannot stand these ass holes.
 

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Injury? Isn't Draxler a boss? Things not looking good for Aguero right now either. PSG's MF looks like butt without Verratti or Matuidi in there.
 

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Draxler sat on the ground. Didn´t see if he hurt himself, was fouled or whatever, but he definitely was injured.
 

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That's less than good for Wolfsy. Thiago Motta out with what looks like a muscle pull in his leg. Lucas Moura on. MANC looks balanced with the Fernands in the double pivot. The front 4 are creating enough problems for Paris and the pressing is good.
 

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Can't believe Trapp wasn't shown a red. I'm sure I'll believe it when the adrenaline has worn off. Aguero miss is just brutal, 1-0 would have put City in such good position
 

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Real with another header after a set piece to the post and almost right on the line, Benaglio grabs it behind his back and between his legs. Could easily slapped it into his own net. Still 2-0 Real and everything is possible! Let´s go Wolfsburg (can´t believe what i´m saying here :) )!!!
 

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Congrats to City. In an otherwise pretty crappy last few months, they really brought their A game in this tie against PSG and fully deserved to go through. I don't like their chances against anybody in the next round but making the semis is an achievement itself, especially given their past struggles in this tournament.
 

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Wolfsburg just too dumb, too inexperienced on the big stage, too unclever, too little. They had it set up right at their feet and couldn´t finish. Not that Real was dominating this tie, they were clearly better today, but ultimately the more clever (or more lucky) team to advance.
 

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I mostly agree re: the next round, but City is actually starting to get healthy and they are a much different team when healthy. They likely won't get through to the finals, but maybe they can catch a break and get lucky.
 

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Unless crazy things happen tomorrow City will be a heavy underdog against whomever they draw. You can always win a 2 legged tie on the back of some stout defending but City haven't had much of that this season. They were good in this tie and will have confidence and sometimes that is enough in football.

Kev DeBruyne has been such a revelation. I can't help but wonder what the league looks like if he hadn't been injured but he was so overplayed at that point that the rest may have done him well
 

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I mostly agree re: the next round, but City is actually starting to get healthy and they are a much different team when healthy. They likely won't get through to the finals, but maybe they can catch a break and get lucky.
It will certainly help if Bayern or Barcelona slip up tomorrow. I have a very hard time seeing City beating either of those teams over two legs. But I think they'd have a decent shot against Atletico or Real and would be clear favorites over Benfica.
 

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Credit to Pelligrini for leaving Yaya on the bench. When De Bruyne and Silva are both healthy I don't think there's a place for him in the team in big games anymore, and City are much more tactically secure with the Fernando/inho double pivot.
 

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While I generally agree, I don't think Navas brings much to the table. Yaya could play as a bona fide #10 or as a more attacking third CMF, or they could play Sterling, who offers better 2-way play than Navas. The fact that PSG didn't have Verratti or Matuidi masked the fact that City may have trouble transitioning against a stronger opponent.
 

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Sterling is injured. Navas is City's weakest link but puts in his defensive work which was important today. Yaya can't play as a 10 because DeBruyne needed to be there and Yaya can't press and move with Aguero. Shunting KDB out wide to accommodate Yaya has been what City have done most of the season but it makes for a really static midfield. It was the right call today.
 
They were talking about this on the Guardian's Football Weekly podcast yesterday - the consensus was that Yaya should start on the bench, thereby letting De Bruyne play in his best position, but that Pellegrini wouldn't have the stones to keep him out of the lineup. I guess not...good for him (and for England's UEFA coefficient).
 

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Atletico is likely to start Lucas, the 20-year-old CB, again with Godin. Lucas performed well in the first leg, but he's not the same threat to score a goal as Savic or Gimenez, both of whom are injured. In a game when a goal is huge for Atletico, it's hard to lose a scoring option.
 

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Sterling is injured. Navas is City's weakest link but puts in his defensive work which was important today. Yaya can't play as a 10 because DeBruyne needed to be there and Yaya can't press and move with Aguero. Shunting KDB out wide to accommodate Yaya has been what City have done most of the season but it makes for a really static midfield. It was the right call today.
That's fair. I thought KDB was more of a winger, but he definitely drifted inside a bunch and was there for the goal. While Navas was very good in the effective press yesterday, against a better team and specifically midfield, I think yesterday's lineup would have trouble transitioning from offense to defense. I thought Yaya could be that guy, but I'm open to the argument that he would make MANC too narrow and he is a terrific option off the bench. Maybe I'm not giving enough credit to the Fernands, but I could definitely see the front 4 not getting enough service in the next round.

Atletico is likely to start Lucas, the 20-year-old CB, again with Godin. Lucas performed well in the first leg, but he's not the same threat to score a goal as Savic or Gimenez, both of whom are injured. In a game when a goal is huge for Atletico, it's hard to lose a scoring option.
But will Vietto finally play?!?
 

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Atletico is likely to start Lucas, the 20-year-old CB, again with Godin. Lucas performed well in the first leg, but he's not the same threat to score a goal as Savic or Gimenez, both of whom are injured. In a game when a goal is huge for Atletico, it's hard to lose a scoring option.
What is the point of your post? I don´t know Atletico´s squad well enough to make a judgment, but if they don´t have any other players available to injury (or in F.Torres´case due to suspension), you have to pick others and not look back or argument "could-would-should have"...A defender has to defend first, especially against Barca in this leg with this previous result. You cannot look for a defender who may be great for offensive set pieces, but a weakness (to exaggerate) in defending in general, IMO.

I think Atletico played a good defensive game in the 1st leg as long as Torres was on the field (they also did a good defending with 10 men, but with him on the field it should have been better), so the thinking should be, "we play our defensive game, bring in a new forward and try to score a goal while holding up on defense". This is incredibly hard, but what can you do? Atletico cannot come out and play a possession-dominating game against Barca and hope to outscore them 3-1 just because they have three attacking midfielders in central midfield. 90 minutes can be very long and they need only one goal - although it will be incredibly hard to keep Barca from scoring, we just saw the same happening in their last league match with Real Sociedad.
If Atletico scores first, it´s another game, Barca has to attack and there should be more chances for counter-attacking for Atletico, maybe even a 2nd goal is in play.
If Barca scores first, Atletico needs two goals, which will be incredibly tough to overcome. So you should stay away from Barca leading and just wait, as Atletico.
 

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What is the point of your post? I don´t know Atletico´s squad well enough to make a judgment, but if they don´t have any other players available to injury (or in F.Torres´case due to suspension), you have to pick others and not look back or argument "could-would-should have"...A defender has to defend first, especially against Barca in this leg with this previous result. You cannot look for a defender who may be great for offensive set pieces, but a weakness (to exaggerate) in defending in general, IMO.
Thanks for a thoughtful post. I'm still learning, a lot, about the game, so I like this deeper look into the game. Here we go!