SBLII: The Brady Watch
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Well, I guess it's a good thing Brady made Kraft order the Jimmy G trade. He might have Tom Bradied Tom Brady.
I still think he pushes through and finds a way to win. I am done doubting that dude since 28-3.
I still think he pushes through and finds a way to win. I am done doubting that dude since 28-3.
Are we really doing this? Between the decade of Brady's shoulder being on the injury report, through the early years when it was -- IIRC -- his ankle on the report, there has been plenty to get our undies in a bunch about.
We know nothing and we are not going to know anything, including through his playing in the game. Unless you see Hoyer slingin' it to SB 52, we are just guessing here.
Bring on the Toradol!
We know nothing and we are not going to know anything, including through his playing in the game. Unless you see Hoyer slingin' it to SB 52, we are just guessing here.
Bring on the Toradol!
Looks like you've got some competition:
https://www.bostonsportsjournal.com/2018/01/18/dr-flynn-range-possibilities-tom-bradys-finger-injury/
Why would he lie?
Maybe he’s excited about the number of carries he’ll be getting. Makes sense to lobby for it in the media so he’s in record.
He plays for the patriots. The most secretive and guarded team in all of sports, any sport. So he just confirms brady has a broken hand? Saying he didn’t break Brady’s hand isn’t a lie by the way
I don't find any of your posts in this thread particularly funny - just as an FYI. Now if you want to say that you were just kidding earlier, that would be really damn funny.
Is this the same injury Brissett had last year? He had a sprain / torn ligaments in his right thumb against Houston, finished the game and played the next week against Buffalo, then had surgery. He was pretty ineffective with the injury, however.
Sarcasm, right? Some people seem to have missed it.
Because Lewis didn’t immediately catch on to the “when did you stop beating your wife?” nature of this question it means he’s confirming Brady has a broken hand? Right.
Can the OL and TEs be road graders as the Pats run, run, and run again to a 17-13 victory?
Oops, meant for the other thread.
Oops, meant for the other thread.
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What, you couldn't get @brandonchristensen to help make that script scarier? Do you pay all of us $10 if Brady comes out with a great game? Not cool man. Not cool.
Give me a break man, you're inferring A LOT from one picture of a glove. I think your unnecessarily creating havoc. I have no idea how you can even tell there is a brace there because I'm not seeing it.
I'm not buying it.
I'm not buying it.
I can't tell you how badly I want to be wrong
I mean, I already have a flight and a pre-paid hotel to Minneapolis. I don't want to spend 5 grand to go to the Prince Museum in subarctic temperatures
Your blog entry is likely as good as we’re going to get, at least until practice and listing time tomorrow.
I respect the hell out of a couple of people who cover the team. Reiss is one; Curran another. Nonetheless, I am crediting nothing other than what the team must mandatorily disclose to the League, which may be very little.
This team is like the KBG. I am assuming that whatever is put out there even by reliable, careful writers is what the team wants out there. Which may, or may not, be accurate. In this regard, the Guregian report yesterday helped the team because it is helpful to get out there that this happened in yesterday’s practice. I am not saying that it didn’t but it still is helpful to get out there that it did. Somebody fed her.
Reality could be worse or better than what we’ll hear. The team doesn’t give a rat’s ass about the mental well being of its fan base at this point, nor should it.
Bottom line: those who know ain’t saying, beyond what they must say to comply with League rules. And those who are saying don’t know. Caveat emptor.
Belichick does a master job of training them in the art of deflection. It is an art with him.
His press conference will be interesting. If they find a way to cancel it again or he’s wearing something covering the hand, I’ll go to full panic mode.
This is scary, but I feel better that we have healthy Gronk, 'Dola, Dion and James White (Hogan and Cooks too). Plus I think Flowers x 2, Butler, Wise, KVN and Harrison are going to go medieval on Bortles and Fournette.
And for the super bowl? Oh by the way, those stats produce a passer rating of 99.7.
If we find out the night before it comes down to that offensive toolbag and Hoyer, I think I’m going to watch the Odd Couple and a couple of schizophrenia movies.
Point I was trying to make was that if Brady can throw at all, he has some excellent short- and medium depth weapons. None of us know the answer to that implied question.
Liked the response though
Liked the response though
In that BSJ link thing there is this sorta creepy stalkerish video of Brady at practice with an emphasis on his hands.
There’s not much to see besides the abject creepiness as he’s just sorta swinging about... until about 00:25, he does a little spin move warming up thing... and starts doing little hand clenches. And you can see the thumb on his right hand not moving naturally with the clench.
This doesn’t mean much of anything as to severity of injury, of course, except insofar as you can see it has been immobilized.
Or... that’s just what they want us to believe.
R2 has been known to be wrong before..,
Agreed. Between the balanced offense and evolved defense, I’m sure the team will feel confident and fully prepared for the event that he cannot go (or is at least limited). As long as the turnover and field position games are won, they should still be okay.
Thanks DRS for the thoughts on the injury. Along the lines of the mentioned walking glove, this might be a good time to add or invent a glove to the sleep recovery system outfit.
ESPN is of course taking another shot at the Patriots, this time via Rich Cimini... http://www.espn.com/blog/new-england-patriots/post/_/id/4810617/ill-advised-jimmy-g-trade-will-haunt-patriots-if-tom-brady-isnt-right
Likely no need to click through as most of the article is stuff we already know. Here is the key contention:
And the shrill scream of self-righteousness that follows:
And the oh-so-skillful conclusion:
Likely no need to click through as most of the article is stuff we already know. Here is the key contention:
"The Patriots have a mini-crisis, and they'll have no one to blame but themselves if this turns into the worst-case scenario -- if Brady struggles and the defending Super Bowl champions lose to the Jacksonville Jaguars on Sunday. If that's how it plays out, the Patriots will be subjected to an offseason of massive criticism, and it would be justified because they sold off the NFL's best insurance policy -- Jimmy Garoppolo -- for 50 cents on the dollar."
And the shrill scream of self-righteousness that follows:
"[Having to turn to Brian Hoyer on Sunday] would be the Patriots' worst nightmare, and it would shine a harsh light on the Garoppolo trade and the story behind it. ESPN the Magazine recently reported that Belichick wasn't on board with it, and that he was "furious and demoralized" when the deal went down at the trading deadline. The story reported that owner Robert Kraft, perhaps influenced by Brady, ordered the trade. Kraft, in an interview with The MMQB.com, told a conflicting version, saying Belichick was the driving force behind it.
Someone isn't telling the truth."
Someone isn't telling the truth."
And the oh-so-skillful conclusion:
"New England is in the business of winning now, and they left themselves vulnerable. It's ironic, because they've been two steps ahead of the competition for nearly two decades, winning five Super Bowls. This season, they made one move too many, creating their current predicament.
[Paragraph about other players using comments about Brady's looks]
They can joke about it now. If Brady isn't Brady and the Patriots fall one game short of the Super Bowl, the offseason fallout could get ugly."
[Paragraph about other players using comments about Brady's looks]
They can joke about it now. If Brady isn't Brady and the Patriots fall one game short of the Super Bowl, the offseason fallout could get ugly."
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The actual worst nightmare would have been if they traded Jimmy for more to a team besides the niners for more than "50 cents on the dollar" and were going to need to rely on scrub rookie qb x instead of Hoyer. Of course then Cimini would have to admit they didn't screw up in sending him to the niners.
Yes, my edit didn't get there in time but I would have asked SOSH something similar, but missed your very valid point that Hoyer was part of the return.
Here's what I also tried to add:
Here's what I also tried to add:
Having read ESPN's take, and knowing what shape the other 3 finalists are in, I am in two minds. On the one hand, if they had not trading JG, the Patriots would be in the incredibly enviable position of having a game-tested and capable back-up ready to take over this weekend. Which I think would be nearly unprecedented.
On the other hand, they would then be creating a massive QB controversy especially if JG won convincingly this weekend.
So my question to SOSH is: however lame and self-righteous the article, does Cimini have a point?
Edit: or by even asking this question am I just giving oxygen to another distraction?
On the other hand, they would then be creating a massive QB controversy especially if JG won convincingly this weekend.
So my question to SOSH is: however lame and self-righteous the article, does Cimini have a point?
Edit: or by even asking this question am I just giving oxygen to another distraction?
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I suspect you are correct. And if I was forced to predict, I would say that you are and that Brady will have a solid day on Sunday.
That said, Cimini is only partially right. The return is not the point; the loss of excellent insurance this season at the QB position is.
And that will be the case even if, as most suspect, Brady turns out to be fine. Good results don’t convert a questionable decision into a sensible decision.
If he jammed his hand, and he wasn’t going to practice, but he was going to be out there at the start of practice... wouldn’t it make sense for him to wear gloves? And as dukesox said - if it was anything close to severe, why would he have even been out there to begin with?
DRS, correct me if I’m wrong, but if it was the UCL wouldn’t he be in a cockup splint or a spica splint to fully immobilize it for the time being? Outside of surgery it’s just rest and industrial strength anti-inflammatories for something like that, right?
Since it isn’t fully immobilized that’s a good sign, right?
Since it isn’t fully immobilized that’s a good sign, right?
Looking at how a handoff would take place with the thumb facing up and toward the RB’s abdomen isn’t the most likely thing here a jammed thumb?
Swelling in largest joint
Maybe even made a crack or pop, hence an X-ray
Wear a glove to hide swelling/bruising
Talk of “not too worried about it”
Original report mentioned a jam
If that’s the case I imagine he really will be okay by Sunday.
Swelling in largest joint
Maybe even made a crack or pop, hence an X-ray
Wear a glove to hide swelling/bruising
Talk of “not too worried about it”
Original report mentioned a jam
If that’s the case I imagine he really will be okay by Sunday.