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Call the Dodgers, promise them that slotting Lester between Kershaw and Greinke basically guarantees them a trophy, and get Pederson on a plane to Boston.  After what they have been reportedly hearing from the Rays about Price, it will seem like a bargain.
Entirely conceivable, as is the prospect that they might even extend him. I don't think that ownership group, with Magic aboard, is viewing the broader landscape through John Henry glasses. Steve Ballmer would be more like it. MLB is awash in money, and franchise values will probably escalate substantially and quickly.
 

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I think I have alluded to this twice. And considering the other things that are happening, or rather not happening, with the team and the rationale offered for it, I think this is timely.

Proceed with your eyes open, understanding what happened before he hit 30 and that it is extraordinarily unlikely that things will get better in the years ahead. If anything, they are more likely to get worse.

Consider also the cost in prospects, which you have discussed -- and the fact that these are individuals who by definition could not be spun for a front line starting pitcher we seem increasingly likely to lose.

Finally, consider that if they lose that starter and don't replace him with someone nearly as good, you're likely wasting many of Tulo's years in a RS uniform.
If they trade for Tulo, while losing Lester I would hope they make a serious attempt to sign Scherzer otherwise I agree, you're likely just spinning your wheels. 
 
Ignoring that for a second, I'm not suggesting you give up anything and everything for Tulo, the Rockies asked for Gausman in exchange for Jorge de la Rosa which is an insane opening price, just that I wouldn't let Tulo's injury history stop me (in Ben's shoes) from making a serious effort to acquire him. 
 

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Lester for Pederson.
Barnes/Webster/Betts for Hamels.
Miller, Badenhop, Peavy, Drew all dealt for B- to B+ prospects.
Sign Tomas. 
 
2015:
C - Vazquez/Ross/Swihart
1b - Napoli
2b - Pedroia
3b - Bogaerts
SS - Marrero  (or 3b Middlebrooks, SS Bogaerts)
LF - Tomas
CF - Bradley
RF - Victorino
DH - Ortiz
 
Holt super sub.  Pederson waiting in the wings to take over in 2016 after Victorino is gone.  Swihart, Cecchini knocking on the door.
 
Lineup:
2b Pedroia
RF Victorino
DH Ortiz
1b Napoli
LF Tomas
SS Bogaerts
3b Middlebrooks
CF Bradley
C Vazquez
 
Rotation:  Hamels, Lackey, Buchholz, RDLR, Ranaudo/Workman
 

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Tulo is on the DL with a hip flexor.  He can't be traded before this deadline. 
Yes he can. He needs to give his consent though. Like when Peavy was traded from San Diego to Chicago.
 

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I dunno, maybe I'm being overly negative. But what does the 2016 Red Sox team look like? Where are they getting production from? Who is fronting the staff? Aren't they relying a ton on young players? Granted, many of those players will be productive- but what's the core of this team? I don't see a lot of elite level talent that seems necessary to building a contender.
 
The offense in the first half was mired by slumps from Bradley and Bogaerts.  Both of them appear to be coming out of that and both were expected to produce with the bat, each in their own way. There's every reason to think that Bradley can put up an OBP in the .350 range and that Bogaerts is going to be an impact bat.  Replacing Gomes won't be hard. There's a pretty good chance they have that already in Hassan or Brentz. That may be a spot they can upgrade through free agency, even. Victorino has been out all year, so replacing his 2014 production is just a matter of putting a warm body out there. This is another place where they can upgrade in free agency, even without an impact player being out there. Ortiz is probably gone or a shell of himself by 2016, so the hope (as mentioned earlier in this paragraph) is that Bogaerts is that impact bat by then. Napoli could be extended (he'll be going into his age 34 season) if he's still hitting, or they may have Travis Shaw or Sam Travis ready to step in.
 
As you point out, the tougher area is going to be filling out the rotation. Replacing Lester is going to be hard.  Chances are none of the prospects in the system now will give us what he's given us.  That said, filling out the rotation is not some daunting unbearable issue. If Lester leaves it probably means they aren't paying Scherzer, either.  If they're going to pony up for a pitcher at that price, it'll be Lester. So looking at the next tier down we have Shields, Santana, Masterson, Wei-Yin Chen and Floyd. Picking up one of those (let's say they spend on one of the better two) and extending Lackey through 2017 gives them a rotation of Santana/Shields, Lackey, Workman and a combination of RDLR, Ranaudo, Webster, Barnes, Owens, and Wright for 2015. That's not the best rotation in the majors, but I'd argue it's playoff caliber. Even if you pull two of those prospects out in a Stanton deal, that's a solid collection of pitchers.
 
And if you do add Stanton, you suddenly have a solid core of Stanton, Bogaerts, Pedroia and Bradley for the long haul (maybe adding Swihart soon) and a lineup something like Bradley, Pedroia, Ortiz, Stanton, Napoli, Victorino, Bogaerts, Middlebrooks and Vazquez in 2015. That looks like a competitive lineup to me. And that's before considering either of the two Cuban outfielders in play right now.
 

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If they trade for Tulo, while losing Lester I would hope they make a serious attempt to sign Scherzer otherwise I agree, you're likely just spinning your wheels. 
 
Ignoring that for a second, I'm not suggesting you give up anything and everything for Tulo, the Rockies asked for Gausman in exchange for Jorge de la Rosa which is an insane opening price, just that I wouldn't let Tulo's injury history stop me (in Ben's shoes) from making a serious effort to acquire him. 
"Attempt" is the key word when discussing a Boras client.
 

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"Attempt" is the key word when discussing a Boras client.
I forgot that he was a Boras client. Thanks for the reminder. 
 

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Oh ... my.

That's as relevant to the end game of this mess as Pedroia and Lester sharing an agent might have been to the start of it.

So let's see. Lester is overwhelmed financially pretty quickly and signs first. Boras then produces a 100 page glossy brochure demonstrating beyond any doubt that Scherzer is superior to Lester.

Check and check.
 

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I don't really see how the Sox could trade 3-5 top prospects for any one player, though. They simply don't have enough talent on the major league roster; they've got holes all over the place. To give up several top prospects for the privilege of paying Stanton or whomever 25M+ for x # of years just doesn't make sense. The prospects are the core of this team and really needed to make this team competitive again. It may not work out, sure, but if you trade multiple prospects, how do you go about building a competitor while still avoiding the kinds of contracts that guys like Lester will sign?
 
Beckett, Pedro, Adrian Gonzalez, and Curt Schilling all went for 2+ top prospects.
 
That said you need to trade prospects now (or this offseason).  We have too many pitching prospects in the high minors.  Webster, Ranuado, Barnes, Rubby de La Rosa, Workman, Owens, and Johnson are all not going to be in the rotation.  It is impossible.  Some are going to move to the bullpen where they are less valuable and / or flame out.  You need to move some of these assets before they become Michael Bowden.
 
We also have Cecchini, Holt, Marrero, Middlebrooks, and Bogaerts on the left side with Coyle possibly behind him.
 
Finally you have Lavarnway, Butler, Vasquez, and Swihart.
 
This doesn't even take in account Betts.
 
Getting Stanton and/or Tulo would make a lot of sense using these resources.
 
Trading for Stanton and Tulo makes sense.
 

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TomRicardo said:
 
Beckett, Pedro, Adrian Gonzalez, and Curt Schilling all went for 2+ top prospects.
 
That said you need to trade prospects now (or this offseason).  We have too many pitching prospects in the high minors.  Webster, Ranuado, Barnes, Rubby de La Rosa, Workman, Owens, and Johnson are all not going to be in the rotation.  It is impossible.  Some are going to move to the bullpen where they are less valuable and / or flame out.  You need to move some of these assets before they become Michael Bowden.
 
We also have Cecchini, Holt, Marrero, Middlebrooks, and Bogaerts on the left side with Coyle possibly behind him.
 
Finally you have Lavarnway, Butler, Vasquez, and Swihart.
 
This doesn't even take in account Betts.
 
Getting Stanton and/or Tulo would make a lot of sense using these resources.
 
Trading for Stanton and Tulo makes sense.
 
Both?  Wow.  That would be amazing.  But yes, I am 100% in on getting Stanton.  Tulo less so because they have plenty of quality SS prospects, but no OF power at all to speak of.  
 

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Stark chat today: "I've barely heard Drew's name. He's created pretty muich no market for himself, even though he's picked it up a little lately. I think if the Red Sox sell, they'll trade Peavy, Tazawa, Miller and Gomes, or some combination thereof. Really doubt they'll trade Lester. But I keep thinking that if Price doesn't get dealt, there's a real opportunity for the Red Sox and Phillies (with Hamels) to step into that void."
 

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Rockies need pitching.  Marlins need a decent enough excuse to cut payroll.
 
Tulo - Owens, Webster/Ranuado, Marrero, and some Single A Player not named Devers
Stanton and Cishek - Betts, Ranuado/Barnes/Webster (whoever is left after Tulo), Middlebrooks, and another Single A Player not named Devers
 
Maybe try to figure out Stanton and Cishek now so you can flip Uehara for something or do a three team trade with someone flipping more prospects to Florida for Uehara.
 

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Stark chat today: "I've barely heard Drew's name. He's created pretty muich no market for himself, even though he's picked it up a little lately. I think if the Red Sox sell, they'll trade Peavy, Tazawa, Miller and Gomes, or some combination thereof. Really doubt they'll trade Lester. But I keep thinking that if Price doesn't get dealt, there's a real opportunity for the Red Sox and Phillies (with Hamels) to step into that void."
I agree with the opportunity being there, although I think Lackey can bring even more back than Lester can with the extra year plus QO afterwards.  Unless someone bowls the Sox over for Lester they aren't going to get a great return for him.  Either way there's definitely a big opportunity here for the Red Sox to cash in on a sellers market.
 

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I don't know how you get Stanton without Bogearts being involved.
 
Probably right.
 
I would trade Bogaerts for Stanton.
 
Right now the Marlins rotation going forward is Fernandez, Alvarez, Eovaldi, Heaney, DeSclafani/Turner/Koelher.  So they might not be as interested in pitching.
 
Maybe Bogaerts, Middlebrooks, Barnes and Rijo
 

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Probably right.
 
I would trade Bogaerts for Stanton.
 
Right now the Marlins rotation going forward is Fernandez, Alvarez, Eovaldi, Heaney, DeSclafani/Turner/Koelher.  So they might not be as interested in pitching.
 
Maybe Bogaerts, Middlebrooks, Barnes and Rijo
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Probably right.
 
I would trade Bogaerts for Stanton.
 
Right now the Marlins rotation going forward is Fernandez, Alvarez, Eovaldi, Heaney, DeSclafani/Turner/Koelher.  So they might not be as interested in pitching.
 
Maybe Bogaerts, Middlebrooks, Barnes and Rijo
Very doubtful that Bogaerts and three question marks will do it.  Two or three of our top five plus another couple of B lottery tickets, maybe.
 

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I don't really see how the Sox could trade 3-5 top prospects for any one player, though. They simply don't have enough talent on the major league roster; they've got holes all over the place.
You keep saying they have holes all over the place, but the holes are actually the same prospects that you're saying not to give up. If you believe they're holes, then the prospects aren't very good anyway. Presumably, by this time next year, Vazquez, Bogaerts, and Bradley aren't holes in the roster, they're established solutions at C, SS/3B, and CF.
 

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The closest approximation of Stanton's trade value is Miguel Cabrera, and I don't think anyone in that deal was at Bogaerts value. In general, it's very rare for a pre-arb major leaguer to end up going back in this type of trade.

Obviously it depends of if the Marlins are actually trading him or how they value Boston's prospects, but judging by precedent, the Sox have what it takes to get him using minor leaguers alone.
 

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Bringing Cishek to Boston would be perfect for all parties. He and his wife are both Falmouth natives, and he's just entering his arb years this winter.
 
Yes, he'll be expensive to acquire, but you'll always do better bundling purchases like Mike & Frank on American Pickers.
 

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Very doubtful that Bogaerts and three question marks will do it.  Two or three of our top five plus another couple of B lottery tickets, maybe.
 
Bogaerts, Betts, Swihart, Renauldo, Rijo
 
I would shit myself, but the Sox could survive it.
 
This assumes the Sox can't trade for some other parts to throw in to save one of Bogaerts, Betts, or Swihart.
 

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The closest approximation of Stanton's trade value is Miguel Cabrera, and I don't think anyone in that deal was at Bogaerts value. In general, it's very rare for a pre-arb major leaguer to end up going back in this type of trade.

Obviously it depends of if the Marlins are actually trading him or how they value Boston's prospects, but judging by precedent, the Sox have what it takes to get him using minor leaguers alone.
 
Power-hitting RH's are in higher demand in this offense-suppressed environment. 
 
Most of us thought Detroit was getting away with highway robbery even at the time - I don't know if that's a good comparison. 
 

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I don't mean to hijack this into a Stanton thread again, but while I know the Marlins would LIKE to get Xander Bogaerts, that doesn't mean they will.  If they decide to trade Stanton, they have to take the best offer.  If our offer is headlined by Mookie Betts, what other team with the need for and financial capacity to extend Stanton can offer a package with a better headlining prospect?  And I think there's no question that two of our top ten is likely to be a stronger rest of the offer than anyone else can provide.
 

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The Red Sox do not want Lester back.
 
Look if this was the 2003 Red Sox, and management should make an exception to the rule. Baseball is a strange game but the Red Sox have a number of holes on their roster. It's hard to see this team contending next year given that there's a lack of talent in the free agent market and what's out there will be overpriced.
Of course I look at this like it's 2013 and management should make an exception. I and others have explained why on more than one occasion but the bottom line is that the Sox don't have "a number" of homes to fill. They have one. Letting Lester go would open up another one and cost resources other than money to fix.

The 2013 analogy is a pretty good one. Before that season, people were saying it was hard to see how the team was going to be competitive when it was easy to see how. It was just relatively unlikely that all the things that needed to go right would.

That's true now of 2015 but the thing is, instead of bringing in a bunch of good but not great vets, we're trying on kids to develop quickly.

But the thing is, with the kids, we have more than one year, but only if we have Lester.

Bring in a left fielder with some pop, bring Lester back, and let's go.
 

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Yeah, I really don't think X's inclusion is a prerequisite. If, let's say, Owens/ Betts/ Swihart/ 2 lottery tickets is the best offer--do folks really think they'd turn that down?
 
If Betts/Barnes/Coyle/Stankiewicz is the best offer, they'll take it -- because it's the best offer, and all this Stanton talk is predicated on the idea that the Marlins are going to have to trade him for the best offer or lose him for nothing.
 
Sorry for repeating myself, but I have yet to hear anybody suggest a package from another team that we couldn't beat without devastating our top-level prospect depth.
 

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Bogaerts, Betts, Swihart, Renauldo, Rijo
 
I would shit myself, but the Sox could survive it.
 
This assumes the Sox can't trade for some other parts to throw in to save one of Bogaerts, Betts, or Swihart.
 
Who the hell is Renauldo?
 

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If Betts/Barnes/Coyle/Stankiewicz is the best offer, they'll take it -- because it's the best offer, and all this Stanton talk is predicated on the idea that the Marlins are going to have to trade him for the best offer or lose him for nothing.
 
Sorry for repeating myself, but I have yet to hear anybody suggest a package from another team that we couldn't beat without devastating our top-level prospect depth.
 
It depends on which teams are interested.  St. Louis could swap Oscar Taveras, Randal Grichuk and Shelby Miller if they are interested enough. I'm not sure we could beat that at all.  The Cubs could offer Kris Bryant and one of Russell/Soler to build around and make it tough for us to beat.  Both teams could afford to extend him.  The Pirates could hop into the mix with a combination of Bell, Tallion/Glasnow and maybe Austin Meadows.
 
The Red Sox have a strong system, but there are teams out there who could trump us for Stanton if they want him badly enough.
 

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If Peavy makes this next start against the Rays, I'll be angry. He's not better than Workman or Rubby right now, so he's neither giving us a better chance to win nor making the team better for the future. 
 
Give him to the Pirates for a lottery ticket. 
 
Mujica should be DFA'd. 13 hits in 7.2 innings in July. Horrible. 
 
Sure he is making the team better. By getting us a higher draft pick
 

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It depends on which teams are interested.  St. Louis could swap Oscar Taveras, Randal Grichuk and Shelby Miller if they are interested enough. I'm not sure we could beat that at all.  The Cubs could offer Kris Bryant and one of Russell/Soler to build around and make it tough for us to beat.  Both teams could afford to extend him.  The Pirates could hop into the mix with a combination of Bell, Tallion/Glasnow and maybe Austin Meadows.
 
The Red Sox have a strong system, but there are teams out there who could trump us for Stanton if they want him badly enough.
 
Why would the Cubs trade Kris Bryant or St. Louis trade Taveras for Stanton?  Also a Betts/Owens/Middlebrooks+ package would beat Tavares/Miller/Grichuk package for Miami.  
 
Grichuk is like a minor league Trumbo with a bit better fielding.  I guess the Marlins could throw him on first and hope he doesn't strike out 30+% of the time.  He has power but his plate discipline is worse than Middlebrooks.
 

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Tulo is on the DL with a hip flexor.  He can't be traded before this deadline. 
 
 
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Yes he can. He needs to give his consent though. Like when Peavy was traded from San Diego to Chicago.
 
Or when Crawford went to LAD as part of the Punto trade
 

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What could Loria get for Stanton right now? At a time when the game is starved for offense, right-handed power in particular? And with Stanton under club control for the rest of this season and two more years after that?
 
A kingdom for your slugger!
 
The Cardinals would forget they ever heard of David Price. The Red Sox would move heaven, earth and Xander Bogaerts. The Dodgers would stop worrying about having too many outfielders and simply ship the ones they don't want out to sea.
 
http://www.foxsports.com/mlb/just-a-bit-outside/story/free-giancarlo-stanton-072414
 

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Why would the Cubs trade Kris Bryant or St. Louis trade Taveras for Stanton?  Also a Betts/Owens/Middlebrooks+ package would beat Tavares/Miller/Grichuk package for Miami.  
 
Grichuk is like a minor league Trumbo with a bit better fielding.  I guess the Marlins could throw him on first and hope he doesn't strike out 30+% of the time.  He has power but his plate discipline is worse than Middlebrooks.
 
Because while both are monster prospects, the absolute best case scenario for either of them is reaching where Stanton is right now, and the chances of them ending up that good aren't terribly high.  If the Cubs are expecting to start competing in 2016, swapping Bryant for Stanton makes a lot of sense. They then get his entire prime in Chicago.  Likewise, the Cardinals may decide that they want to focus on a shorter window to another title and value Stanton over Taveras because Stanton is almost 100% likely to be better in 2015 and 2016, while they still have Holliday, Molina, Wainright, Peralta, and Carpenter on the same roster.
 
And I don't think there is any chance the Marlins pick Betts/Owens/Middlebrooks over Taveras, Miller and Grichuck. I agree that Grichuk is the least valuable of the bunch, but Taveras is the most by a comfortable margin.  They get the best overall player of either offer, and there is a chance Owens doesn't end up any better than Miller when its all said and done.
 
 
I'd order that group of players Taveras, Betts, Miller, Owens, Middlebrooks, Grichuk.
 

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As bad as they are this year, couldn't the 2015 team be even worse? And the 2016 team...good God. I get the minor league depth and all that, but there's a real scarcity of above average major league ready talent in the system, and I'm struggling to see how they replace all the players potentially leaving in the next year and a half. Hopefully Good Ben shows up this trading deadline and offseason.
RP, that kind of thinking is what led me to that which can not be written. It's all up in the air right now, but should the Sox trade Lester which I hope they don't then who if you were building to the next great Red Sox team would you not trade by the next off season? It's a short list.
 

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RP, that kind of thinking is what led me to that which can not be written. It's all up in the air right now, but should the Sox trade Lester which I hope they don't then who if you were building to the next great Red Sox team would you not trade by the next off season? It's a short list.
Ortiz unless he says he doesn't want to rebuild.  Pedroia obviously.  All the kids.  Its a fairly young team right now.
 
The only guys I think you would trade if you were punting '15 that you wouldn't if you aren't are Koji, Napoli, Lackey, Victorino (who probably doesnt fetch much) and maybe Miller.
 
Probably a little bit silly/overreaction to not even try to contend next year, so pretty moot.
 

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Who brings more? The Lester who is signed to a long-term contract or the Lester who will be a free agent in about three months? If you are going to trade one of the foundations of the club then you want a return that will make up for him, which is one of the reasons I suggested that Pedroia was a possible chip.

Also, because the Red Sox have a highly-rated farm system does not necessarily mean that it is filled with future stars. They are strong compared to other clubs of the same year and may or may not produce players of long-term value. If you ship out five players for one "star" and one of them becomes a "star" and one or two become starters, you probably have lost on the deal.
 

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Who brings more? The Lester who is signed to a long-term contract or the Lester who will be a free agent in about three months? If you are going to trade one of the foundations of the club then you want a return that will make up for him, which is one of the reasons I suggested that Pedroia was a possible chip.
I'm sort of confused. Are you suggesting they keep and extend him or they extend and then trade him? 
 

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Oh ... my.

That's as relevant to the end game of this mess as Pedroia and Lester sharing an agent might have been to the start of it.

So let's see. Lester is overwhelmed financially pretty quickly and signs first. Boras then produces a 100 page glossy brochure demonstrating beyond any doubt that Scherzer is superior to Lester.

Check and check.
 
Not to worry. If I remember this, I'm sure Ben does. Ben must have A Big Plan.
 

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It depends on which teams are interested.  St. Louis could swap Oscar Taveras, Randal Grichuk and Shelby Miller if they are interested enough. I'm not sure we could beat that at all.  The Cubs could offer Kris Bryant and one of Russell/Soler to build around and make it tough for us to beat.  Both teams could afford to extend him.  The Pirates could hop into the mix with a combination of Bell, Tallion/Glasnow and maybe Austin Meadows.
 
The Red Sox have a strong system, but there are teams out there who could trump us for Stanton if they want him badly enough.
 
I'd add Texas (Odor/Gallo/maybe a recovering Perez?) and Seattle (Walker/Miller/Peterson?) to your list. Maybe even Baltimore (Bundy+) and Toronto (Stroman or Sanchez+), but those are admittedly longer shots. Hell, Cleveland if they really wanted to could offer Salazar and Clint Frazier.
 

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I'd add Texas (Odor/Gallo/maybe a recovering Perez?) and Seattle (Walker/Miller/Peterson?) to your list. Maybe even Baltimore (Bundy+) and Toronto (Stroman or Sanchez+), but those are admittedly longer shots. Hell, Cleveland if they really wanted to could offer Salazar and Clint Frazier.
Those of you who thought S Drew was an all-glove no-hit shortstop are going to extrude a brick if Miller is in your lineup every day. Think Mendoza.
 

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Obviously, if they are going to trade Lester they would get more for him if he were signed to a long-term deal. However, I wrote the original post before Lester said he would be willing to return to Boston if they did trade him without an extension. That statement from him could reduce what the Red Sox could expect in return because the trading partner might now just look at him as a rental.

please note: there are conditional statements (if/could) in the above paragraph.
 

mauf

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Owens now has roughly a full year at AA, with numbers that are comparable to Lester's AA numbers in 2005 at the same age, and not far off Buchholz's 2007 AA/AAA numbers when he was a year older. It's highly unlikely that he'll be traded, except perhaps as the centerpiece of a deal for Stanton. If the FO offered the Rox Owens for Tulo, they would immediately wonder what was wrong with his arm.
 

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There are teams that would give up significant pieces for Lester even as a rental - It's not something new. How many teams are 1 pitching ace away from a championship?  In my fantasy land Lester gets traded for some good pieces, then resigns with Boston. The pieces are used as part of a package to bring Stanton to Boston.
 

Yaz4Ever

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BeantownIdaho said:
There are teams that would give up significant pieces for Lester even as a rental - It's not something new. How many teams are 1 pitching ace away from a championship?  In my fantasy land Lester gets traded for some good pieces, then resigns with Boston. The pieces are used as part of a package to bring Stanton to Boston.
Pretty sure that's everyone's fantasy land.  I know it's mine.
 

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Considering what we're looking at, this next week at least promises to be exciting. Ben getting his Danny on.