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A friend of mine who is a boxing and baseball historian decided to do a Joe Posnanski-esque set of writeups on the 50 greatest fights of all time (I think he is using someone else's list). He is doing it on his personal Facebook account but it may morph into a book at some point and I got him to put them on a blog as he goes, if anyone here is interested.

https://www.bellowslunchbox.com/blog
 

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A friend of mine who is a boxing and baseball historian decided to do a Joe Posnanski-esque set of writeups on the 50 greatest fights of all time (I think he is using someone else's list). He is doing it on his personal Facebook account but it may morph into a book at some point and I got him to put them on a blog as he goes, if anyone here is interested.

https://www.bellowslunchbox.com/blog
With respect to your friend, I hope that’s someone else’s list, because fights like Tyson-Holyfield and Lewis-Schmeling don’t belong anywhere near Pacquiao-Morales or Vazquez-Marquez.
 

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With respect to your friend, I hope that’s someone else’s list, because fights like Tyson-Holyfield and Lewis-Schmeling don’t belong anywhere near Pacquiao-Morales or Vazquez-Marquez.
Yeah, he says in the first writeup:

“Recently a YouTube channel that I subscribe to put together a video of the 50 fights that every boxing fan should watch. I'm going to go through them from 50-1.”

I think it was an easy jumping off point for him, and if he did try to write a book, I’d guess he’d reorder them to his own order.
 

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@Marciano490 did you catch any of the Silva-Chavez Jr. fight? I rarely get to watch sports live anymore (outside of playoff hockey) and was wondering whether it was worth tracking down, with Silva being one of my Top 3 favorite combat sports athletes ever.
 

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Seems like a great accomplishment for Silva. I'm not really sure what to think of Chavez Jr. It seems like he has (had) real talent, but not a lot of sustained effort or professionalism over the course of his career.
 

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Seems like a great accomplishment for Silva. I'm not really sure what to think of Chavez Jr. It seems like he has (had) real talent, but not a lot of sustained effort or professionalism over the course of his career.
Thanks for the perspective. I caught a round and a half or so. Chavez obviously showed up out of shape, but Silva clearly belonged and used both his length and head movement very well.

It’s funny wondering what might have been if he hadn’t showboated and then nearly crippled himself against Wiedman. Guy was just freakishly good.
 

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And now...Spence Pacquiao is off. Torn retinal found in Spence during his physical.

Ugas stepping in to keep the date alive but what a shitty year for boxing.
 

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Pacman tonight. Rumors he's looking for a presidential run so this may it. Ugas is good, got robbed vs porter, with length and should make this more interesting than most think.
 

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Spence will kill this guy though.
Yeah it worked out for Pac too. Spence would've wrecked this flat footed version of him

It's time for Pac to call it. Ugas is good but even 3 years ago, an old pac would've destroyed ugas. He was effective but couldn't really hurt Manny. A fresher manny wouldve murdered Ugas.
 

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Overlooked aspect of Manny’s career is his footwork was always hit or miss. He was able to take weird angles and make unbalanced crossovers so long as he had the reflexes and power to keep his opponents honest. Now he puts himself in bad positions where he can’t counter and can’t slip.
 

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I can't believe what I just watched. Woodley has no standing here to demand a rematch and comes off as someone who's in debt and needs money.

I really want him to get that tattoo now.
 

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This can’t be real. Woodley had him, but like always wouldn’t let his hands go. Oh well. Fury would murk him and he looked like shit today. Wonder how much Jake will want to keep fighting now that he got hit in the mouth. He didn’t seem too enthused to get back in there.
 

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This can’t be real. Woodley had him, but like always wouldn’t let his hands go. Oh well. Fury would murk him and he looked like shit today. Wonder how much Jake will want to keep fighting now that he got hit in the mouth. He didn’t seem too enthused to get back in there.
He might think he can’t sell a rematch
 

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You could get a tattoo artist to design something to be easily transformed. No shame. Do it, Woodley!

Would be interesting to see how Jake wiggles out of his handshake if Tyron actually goes through with it.
 

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Jake Paul next opponent prop posted. I hit Mayweather +2800 a few times, and now it's off the board.

I don't think it's likely, but it has to be better than 3.45%.
 

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Nobody had a 10-8 round when Woodley should’ve had a knock down but dominated the round anyways?
 

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Nobody had a 10-8 round when Woodley should’ve had a knock down but dominated the round anyways?
That’s always been mine, and others, biggest gripe with both boxing and MMA scoring. Judges just refuse to give a 10-8 unless the guy nearly dies.
 

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So.my wife is out of town, I can watch whatever I want without anyone looking...so of course I dial up...

Old Marvelous Marvin Hagler fights (what, you were expecting something else?)

In this case, maybe my favorite (except for Hearns, I suppose), the Tony Sibson fight.

God, he was good! Twice in the first two rounds, he threw right hand uppercuts as a lead from a southpaw stance. Who does that? Then he started slipping back and forth between orthodox and southpaw; then when Sibson got desperate, he stepped in, tagged him and finished the fight.

What do you watch, when nobody's around to steer your choices? (boxing only, natch...)
 

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Trump and Jr. were in the booth for literally about 30 seconds before the fight and then they booked it. Wonder how much he got paid and how many incremental PPV buys can be attributed to him.

Holyfield looked exactly as you would expect for a 58-year-old boxer.
 

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So.my wife is out of town, I can watch whatever I want without anyone looking...so of course I dial up...

Old Marvelous Marvin Hagler fights (what, you were expecting something else?)

In this case, maybe my favorite (except for Hearns, I suppose), the Tony Sibson fight.

God, he was good! Twice in the first two rounds, he threw right hand uppercuts as a lead from a southpaw stance. Who does that? Then he started slipping back and forth between orthodox and southpaw; then when Sibson got desperate, he stepped in, tagged him and finished the fight.

What do you watch, when nobody's around to steer your choices? (boxing only, natch...)
Pac Marq 4 recently. Two old foes who showed up to end it in death. Everything about the preparation and the fight was done with the intent for finality and it's what we got. They could have boxed another 12 round decision but both decided to try and end the other. I fucking love that fight.

It's also a throwback great HBO broadcast and 100% available on YouTube.
 

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Castillo Coralles

Vazquez Marquez

Dempsey Willard

Morales Barerra

Ali Frazier 1

Holyfield Bowe (any really)

Holyfield Qawi

Wilder Fury 2

Marciano Walcott

Chavez Taylor

Martinez Chavez Jr

Gatti Ward trilogy

Williams Margarito

so many more!
 

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Castillo Coralles

Vazquez Marquez

Dempsey Willard

Morales Barerra

Ali Frazier 1

Holyfield Bowe (any really)

Holyfield Qawi

Wilder Fury 2

Marciano Walcott

Chavez Taylor

Martinez Chavez Jr

Gatti Ward trilogy

Williams Margarito

so many more!
My goodness what a list! Love all of these. Hagler Hearns I'd add too. Cotto Margarito, Ali Frazier 2 and 3 as well