Sons of Peter McNeeley- Boxing Thread
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Not a ton of action in this fight, but both men punching with power when they let their hands go.
Split draw. Crazy thing is that second KO by Quillin shouldn't have counted because he stepped on Lee's foot. That extra point made the decision.
Danny Garcia did not win that fight.
Lamont Peterson used the first 4 rounds to make a monkey out of Danny and did so in excellent fashion. He then proceeded to punish Danny boy for the last 6 rounds or so.
I dont know how danny has become the chosen one but he is. Sad, sad, sad.
Lamont Peterson used the first 4 rounds to make a monkey out of Danny and did so in excellent fashion. He then proceeded to punish Danny boy for the last 6 rounds or so.
I dont know how danny has become the chosen one but he is. Sad, sad, sad.
Thank you. I'm a big Peterson fan and picked him to win, so I was afraid I was being biased, but I almost choked when I saw Farhood gave him the first 4 rounds. Peterson won that fight 8-4. At worst. He dominated, and Garcia's vaunted power had no effect on him. I normally hate the "face" test, but that told the story last night. I hope they rematch in Vegas with good judges and knowledgeable fans.ElUno20 said:
I have my doubts they will fight again since both want to be at 147 for their next fight. Peterson, without a doubt, can handle 147 size wise but no way Danny can. Haymon knows this so putting him in at 147 in a rematch where peterson doesnt have to strain to make weight would be too risky. Especially considering the ass kicking he just got.Marciano490 said:
I think the next fight is danny vs broner at some bullshit catch weight like 145 or something. Unless, and it's still possible, haymon continues to delicately handle danny in hopes of a mayweather or pacquiao fight. Yes, it's fucking delusional. But it's possible, we are talking about al haymon.
I was a day late on watching these fights so im a little late but i forgot to add above, as much as Quillin annoys me, he showed some grit i didn't think he had on Saturday. he's still an unprofessional douche for missing weight but I'll give him credit for some toughness
You're gonna give Kid Chocolate credit for his grit but not Lee for getting up adter those early knockdowns and overcome a big deficit on the cards to escape with a draw?
My mistake for some reason i thought it was just implied. I loved andy lee's toughness and boxing that night. And i had him by a round or two.
I threw that in about quillin because i was piling on him earlier. Overall, he fought pretty scared after he got caught and completely ran out of gas the last 3 rounds. The only thing I'll give him credit for is surviving, i guess.
I threw that in about quillin because i was piling on him earlier. Overall, he fought pretty scared after he got caught and completely ran out of gas the last 3 rounds. The only thing I'll give him credit for is surviving, i guess.
ElUno20 said:
I was shocked by his performance. The weight thing is one issue, his inactivity and refusal to engage are another. If he were a shoe size smaller, he would've lost that fight and deservedly so. Hopefully, that gives him something to think about, because he's got all the talent in the world.
Another great fight this weekend; this is one of the most memorable stretches of boxing since I don't know when. Big time fights on TV every weekend in April leading up to May-Pac on May 2.
On the grantland boxing podcast, one of guys said "this stretch is why we watch all those bad fights". This stretch is much needed after 2014. They also brought up the chavez fight as a potential sleeper all out war/foty. Which i didn't think about before but does seem likely.
2 slugfest tonight. I thought lucas boxed really well, he obviously tired and was hurt down the stretch but overall a great performance. I know on the balance of the punishment the fight evened up towards the end but i didnt think it was that close. However, a lot of people had it close so ill defer to them. For me though, lucas won a good 7-8 rounds. He's always had good boxing ability he just chooses to engage and go to war, I'm glad he smartened up for this one.
Fonfara beat the fuck out of chavez. He beat him so bad that chavez thought he was winning the fight.
Fonfara beat the fuck out of chavez. He beat him so bad that chavez thought he was winning the fight.
I had Matthysse-Provodnikov at 115-113. I can see where one had a draw. It was one of those fights that looked more one-sided than the scorecards flesh out, but I think they got it right.
The one round where I can see the potential draw coming from was Round 8. Some had it for Provodnikov since he had a real nice powerful flurry 2/3's of the way through, but if you slow-mo those punches in that flurry, I saw Matthysse block almost all of them completely. It looked worse than it really was with the crowd getting into it at that moment too. With seeing that, and the better action from Lucas early in that round I gave him the 8th, and had it 115-113.
Lucas fought brilliantly too. Best fight from him in a while. Methodical, patient, powerful, and brave in the end. That said, another round and he could have been flat on the canvas possibly. He was gassed after the 12th, and got his head handed to him in the 11th and 12th. He hung on against a warrior who has absolutely no defense but twice the heart of anyone else in the sport currently. Just an awesome fight.
The one round where I can see the potential draw coming from was Round 8. Some had it for Provodnikov since he had a real nice powerful flurry 2/3's of the way through, but if you slow-mo those punches in that flurry, I saw Matthysse block almost all of them completely. It looked worse than it really was with the crowd getting into it at that moment too. With seeing that, and the better action from Lucas early in that round I gave him the 8th, and had it 115-113.
Lucas fought brilliantly too. Best fight from him in a while. Methodical, patient, powerful, and brave in the end. That said, another round and he could have been flat on the canvas possibly. He was gassed after the 12th, and got his head handed to him in the 11th and 12th. He hung on against a warrior who has absolutely no defense but twice the heart of anyone else in the sport currently. Just an awesome fight.
I'd love to see Lucas beat Garcia whos looked like crap since. He'd also be great against Manny; wouldnt win but it'd be a great fight.
I hate klitschko. Like seriously hate him. He won the genetic lottery and so he can win every fight almost always based on size. But no one will ever be able to convince me, if he was 3 inches shorter he could be this dominant.
Jennings showed me a ton tonight. Wilder and all the other HW should stay the hell away from him.
Jennings showed me a ton tonight. Wilder and all the other HW should stay the hell away from him.
That was a helluva fight. Nice way to wash out the bad taste of last weekend.
Floyd was very, very smart to take the Canelo fight when he did. Canelo was a year or two away from being a serious challenger and now Floyd will never have to face him in his prime.
Floyd was very, very smart to take the Canelo fight when he did. Canelo was a year or two away from being a serious challenger and now Floyd will never have to face him in his prime.
I dont think canelo will ever be at a point in his career where he can handle a pure boxer. Lara and floyd made him look incredibly amateur.
But it wont matter. Oscar isn't stupid. He's a action fighter who CAN box so he'll be match with sluggers from here on out that he can pick apart.
The cotto fight though, i dont know. Im 50-50 on that one. I can see a case for both guys winning. I guess thats why its such an anticipated fight
But it wont matter. Oscar isn't stupid. He's a action fighter who CAN box so he'll be match with sluggers from here on out that he can pick apart.
The cotto fight though, i dont know. Im 50-50 on that one. I can see a case for both guys winning. I guess thats why its such an anticipated fight
ElUno20 said:
Canelo's a weird case - he's still soooo young, but has he really improved in the last 2-3 years? He's like a 20 year old who comes up and goes .280-20-90 and gets everyone really excited, but is still putting up that line 6 years later.
The Lara fight is tough to judge him on; if someone wants to run, it's very, very hard to do anything but what Canelo did. His chin is too good for his own good; he doesn't seem to mind getting hit, and it makes him look like he's getting punished more than necessary.
What a fun fight though.
I don't think Canelo ever would have beaten Floyd, but Floyd made his usual cagey move of minimizing whatever risk Canelo posed by taking the fight when he did. <br />
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I don't view Canelo as an elite talent, but he's a very good fighter with a big fanbase who appears willing to take on tough opponents (Trout, Lara, etc.) even when they don't make the best risk/reward sense. That's great for boxing. The sport needs more Canelos.
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I don't view Canelo as an elite talent, but he's a very good fighter with a big fanbase who appears willing to take on tough opponents (Trout, Lara, etc.) even when they don't make the best risk/reward sense. That's great for boxing. The sport needs more Canelos.
With pacquiao basically done, hbo needs a new megastar. Theyve built the hype train behind triple G for the last 2 years.
He is very talented but part of pound for pound has to be your resume. People may be ducking him but that doesnt change reality that he hasn't really fought anyone worth a damn
He is very talented but part of pound for pound has to be your resume. People may be ducking him but that doesnt change reality that he hasn't really fought anyone worth a damn
Very casual boxing fan here. Is Deontay Wilder worth being excited about? 33-0 32KOs American WBC HW champ and not a ton of buzz amongst fans like myself.
Any big fights for him looming worth watching?
Any big fights for him looming worth watching?
He is a knockout artist who has been matched perfectly his entire career. However, in his last fight against Stiverne he showed some real ring iq and skills against his first legit test.southshoresoxfan said:
He is not ready for Wlad yet but yes, you should be excited. He has a huge personality and pop off the tv type of athleticism for a HW as well. His next fight is in June on free tv i think, pbc on nbc or cbs
GGG's postfight promos are fantastic. HBO has gotta get him in there with Canelo or Cotto soon. If not, a GGG and Gonzalez double feature is a guaranteed entertaining night of boxing.
Good for Max for asking him about moving up. He can't keep fighting these nobodies. If Cotto won't fight him he needs to go up a class. That's what you do when you clean out a division. This talk of Canelo moving up is silly.
On the other hand, a friend stood next to GGG the other day and said he's barely 5'8 so who knows how much weight he can carry. Looks lean enough though.
On the other hand, a friend stood next to GGG the other day and said he's barely 5'8 so who knows how much weight he can carry. Looks lean enough though.
Given how easily he dispatched Monroe in the 6th, I can't help but think that GGG allowed himself to take some of those wide open shots in the 4th and 5th rounds.
Doesn't Cotto have to fight him after Geale or vacate? I don't know why he wouldn't try to unify before doing anything.Marciano490 said:
Probably. I haven't checked the mandatories. But GGG is still young enough I'm thinking of his fights for next year.
We're all ready to see Golovkin in there with better opponents, but I don't think it's on him to move up in weight.
In an era where guys jump up and down the weight scale, and fighters with influence routinely create their own customized bullshit weight classes, there's something to be said for sticking to a traditional weight class and beating up whoever is willing to fight you at that weight. Plenty of great fighters over the years have bided their time in weak weight classes, waiting for elite opponents to materialize.
The real problem isn't Golovkin being a middleweight (Super middle isn't talent-rich either these days), it's that the best guys available at 160 don't want to fight him. I'd be interested in Golovkin-Quillin or Golovkin-Jacobs, but those guys are wedded to Haymon, so the odds are slim and none that they'll fight an HBO fighter like Golovkin. I can't blame Cotto for wanting to fight Canelo in the fall instead of Golovkin, because there's a lot more money in that fight. But the winner of that fight should need to fight Golovkin or vacate the middleweight title.
In an era where guys jump up and down the weight scale, and fighters with influence routinely create their own customized bullshit weight classes, there's something to be said for sticking to a traditional weight class and beating up whoever is willing to fight you at that weight. Plenty of great fighters over the years have bided their time in weak weight classes, waiting for elite opponents to materialize.
The real problem isn't Golovkin being a middleweight (Super middle isn't talent-rich either these days), it's that the best guys available at 160 don't want to fight him. I'd be interested in Golovkin-Quillin or Golovkin-Jacobs, but those guys are wedded to Haymon, so the odds are slim and none that they'll fight an HBO fighter like Golovkin. I can't blame Cotto for wanting to fight Canelo in the fall instead of Golovkin, because there's a lot more money in that fight. But the winner of that fight should need to fight Golovkin or vacate the middleweight title.
I'm fairly certain he would decapitate quillin but I'd still love to see it. Just like him vs Jacobs, lee, etc. I like ggg and his skill set is interesting, i just hate watching this blatant mismatches. We're almost into a full year 3 of this.
Post may pac, no one has any excuses. Make fights happen. It's financially the smartest thing to do
Post may pac, no one has any excuses. Make fights happen. It's financially the smartest thing to do
Absolute jokes of scorecards turned in by the two judges who had tonight's fight 117-111. Those type of scores make me hate boxing.
Khan as usual gets unreal, dumbfounding credit for throwing flashy combinations as opposed to punches that land and do damage. He spent the whole fight on the back foot being bullied and beatdown and now his coward ass is going to seriously campaign for a floyd fight. I hate khan
Khan as usual gets unreal, dumbfounding credit for throwing flashy combinations as opposed to punches that land and do damage. He spent the whole fight on the back foot being bullied and beatdown and now his coward ass is going to seriously campaign for a floyd fight. I hate khan
ElUno20 said:
This may be the only thing we agree on ElUno20, respectfully.
I do wish Khan gets his chance against Mayweather and as I've posted before, it will be the ONLY time I'll ever root (and root hard) for Pretty Boy.
Khan is the latest in a long line of hyped and ultimately soundly disappointing careers of British boxers.
I don't think Geale is anything special, but he should stand in front of Cotto so there'll be action. Also, Cotto fights in NYC are always fun. Let me know if you go, I might grab tix too.