Agree. He took some shots in that fight last night against a pretty average opponent who had 9 losses coming in.Marciano490 said:
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Iman's body points to a 147 jump but i think he needs at least 1 fight against a top 140 lber first. And it looks like he'll get it with the winner of postol/lucas.
I like iman though. He looks like the goods. I think he also might be a member of the wu tang with his Youngmaster nickname and his call out after the fight "all these guys is fake man"
I like iman though. He looks like the goods. I think he also might be a member of the wu tang with his Youngmaster nickname and his call out after the fight "all these guys is fake man"
Kovalev killed a dude and people are still talking about his pale shadow GGG the next day.ElUno20 said:
Hey goddammit, i posted that prior to the fight.
Pascal v Gonzalez was one of the fights of the year last night despite the horrible decision.
The kovalev fight was a snoozer. The second i realized he was fighting manu ginobili i lost all interest.
Pascal v Gonzalez was one of the fights of the year last night despite the horrible decision.
The kovalev fight was a snoozer. The second i realized he was fighting manu ginobili i lost all interest.
Speaking of fights of the year, I watched the Matthysse/Molina 2014 replay the other night. What a damn fight that was.
You coming to NYC for it? If I'm in town, I'll definitely be at that fight.WayBackVazquez said:
Yeah he's been on borrowed time a couple years. Never quite reached his potential and has regressed lately.
Floyd is so competitive he wanted to match the absurdity of the algieri/pac ppv.
This is a pretty piss poor selection but pretty much expected. He gave showtime what they wanted now its time for a real cakewalk. The fight, oddly enough, does have action potential solely based on berto's lack of defense and iq. The only silver lining for me is i know it drives khan insane. Especially with berto being a virgil hunter stable mate.
All in all this is a horrible fight that i cant see cracking 500k buys. I'll buy it but I've bought worse and I'll buy pretty much anything so I'm not a real barometer.
This is a pretty piss poor selection but pretty much expected. He gave showtime what they wanted now its time for a real cakewalk. The fight, oddly enough, does have action potential solely based on berto's lack of defense and iq. The only silver lining for me is i know it drives khan insane. Especially with berto being a virgil hunter stable mate.
All in all this is a horrible fight that i cant see cracking 500k buys. I'll buy it but I've bought worse and I'll buy pretty much anything so I'm not a real barometer.
I would be shocked if it was but then I wonder, who does he fight for 50? Pacquiao rematch? I don't think he (Pacquiao) did anything to deserve a rematch, but I guess if the money is right. I think he comes back to fight #50, I just don't know who he fights --- because with the significance of that number it needs to be a name in the ring with him.
I would love for it to be thurman. IMO, he's the next great welterweight for years to come. Thats why i dont see floyd fighting him. Number 50 needs to be a winnable fight. And unfortunately for Thurman, floyd is the only client that Haymon cant control to that extent.
My guess will be the manny rematch. The public is dumb, people will buy it. Especially if comes back and destroys that bum khan.
My guess will be the manny rematch. The public is dumb, people will buy it. Especially if comes back and destroys that bum khan.
I would rather see Manny fight Crawford than Floyd. It's another fight he would lose, but at least in losing he would hopefully elevate Crawford's (mainstream) status a bit so he can draw and get some bigger fights.
I wouldn't mind a Manny rematch. I'll credit the shoulder injury and I think he and Freddie are smart enough to adapt. Not saying he'd win, but it'd be interesting.
Berto is a fringe Top 15 or Top 20 welterweight. His best win was a close decision over Luis Collazo over 6 years ago. Since that "peak", he's been beaten up by Victor Ortiz (who Floyd knocked out) and beaten up by Robert Guerrero (who Floyd shut out). He was also knocked out by Jesus Soto Karass, who lost 7 of 10 fights sandwiched around his KO of Berto.<br />
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It's a stay-busy sparring session at the "discounted" price of $75, which still makes it one of the 5 most expensive PPVs in boxing history.
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It's a stay-busy sparring session at the "discounted" price of $75, which still makes it one of the 5 most expensive PPVs in boxing history.
I'd like to see Bradley v. PBF, actually. While HBO tries to play him off as a plugger, he's actually highly skilled, quick, well-rounded and tough as hell. He doesn't have great power, which is a bit surprising given his physique, but we all know how that goes.
Anyways, the key to beating a guy like Floyd in a lot of cases is just will. It's frustrating as hell to get popped every time you come in. It's hard when a guy runs for 12 rounds. Obviously, will can't overcome skill, but Bradley's the type of fighter who would keep coming forward again and again, and might do enough to put Floyd in bad spots, the way Maidana and Cotto were able to. Only, Bradley has a bit more skill, if less power, than either of those guys (or at least more skill than Cotto pre-rejuvenation).
Anyways, the key to beating a guy like Floyd in a lot of cases is just will. It's frustrating as hell to get popped every time you come in. It's hard when a guy runs for 12 rounds. Obviously, will can't overcome skill, but Bradley's the type of fighter who would keep coming forward again and again, and might do enough to put Floyd in bad spots, the way Maidana and Cotto were able to. Only, Bradley has a bit more skill, if less power, than either of those guys (or at least more skill than Cotto pre-rejuvenation).
Marciano490 said:
Bradley is a little jerky, for lack of a better descriptor. His attack is jittery, and looks unfocused but, of course, it's not. But he doesn't have the power to knock out Floyd even if does put him in a few bad spots, IMO. Absolutely a more entertaining fight than Berto and more deserving, but I actually don't think it would be a very close fight.
I need to watch more of Thurman. Any recommended fights beyond his last two (the only one's I've seen)?
Yeah, I just got done watching Thurman - Chaves. That was a good fight. Chaves gave Thurman some trouble for three rounds.
Drocca said:
It's obviously an open question how good Floyd's chin actually is. But, I agree, Bradley's not likely the man to answer that. Maybe a Provodnikov fight would be fun. See if he could just hammer away and maybe get lucky, though I feel that was Maidana's tact. Too bad Garcia's a bust, more or less, he seemed like he might've had a shot someday.
I always root for Berto because his crazy dad is a friend of a friend. Berto has been a juggernaut since he was in HS but he is just not skilled enough to beat Floyd.
ElUno20 said:
Yeah, for a minute Danny Garcia seemed like he might be on the road to being a credible Floyd opponent. Not so much now.
I think this is a little unfair. As I understand it, Bradley's deal guarantees him a seven-figure minimum for every fight, and he made ~$6 million or so for the 2nd Pacquiao fight. That's very good money for a guy who is a very solid fighter, but doesn't have a ton of marketability or a big regional or ethnic fanbase behind him. Outside of Floyd/Manny/Cotto/Canelo/Wlad, Bradley is one of the higher paid fighters out there.ElUno20 said:
Sure, he effectively took himself out of the Floyd sweepstakes by signing long-term with Arum, but how did doing the opposite work out for Amir Khan? If you sign with Haymon and chase a Floyd fight, then you're subjecting yourself to all of Floyd's whims, stall tactics and overall BS. Bradley took charge of his own career and got 2 high-level opportunities against Pacquiao, where I think we saw the clear gap in ability between Bradley and elite fighters like Manny/Floyd.
I'll say this, Bradley looked better against Pacquiao in the second fight than the first, and better in his fights since then he has before. He's still improving. I like him a lot.
I dont know if you watch or have ever watched shobox next generation over the years but they have the best camera angle. They put you right in the ring, up close and personal. It feels a lot different than the usual view. I wish that became the norm.
MGM owns Mandalay Bay. This fight wasn't going to be anywhere but Vegas, and it was just a scheduling thing that has it going there over MGM Grand Garden.ElUno20 said:
The cruiser weight title fight between Marco Huck and underdog Glowacki was one of the fights of the year. Not sure where I'd place it but top 10 for me. Definitely worth a watch
https://youtu.be/N0Gx2ONc7o8
Also bute knocked out a nobody last night after a really long layoff. I was shocked to find out he only has 2 losses (3 if you count the bs one where the ref saved his ass). i could see ggg fighting him after Lemieux, he's a name but at the end of the line.
https://youtu.be/N0Gx2ONc7o8
Also bute knocked out a nobody last night after a really long layoff. I was shocked to find out he only has 2 losses (3 if you count the bs one where the ref saved his ass). i could see ggg fighting him after Lemieux, he's a name but at the end of the line.
I really hope GGG's opponent 2-3 fights from now is not the corpse of Lucian Bute. GGG really needs to fight bigtime opponents from here on out.
GGG dominated Bute in the 2003 World Championships, knocking Bute out in the fourth round while way ahead on points. Obviously it was 12 years ago, but I can't imagine the outcome being too different today.
I think they're both ultimately too small. It's kind of a goldilocks situation going on in that 15-20 pound weight area these days.
Canelo is not really smaller than GGG. They both have been rehydrating to around 175.Marciano490 said:
That's true, but you know the difference between the scale test and the eye test. I think we'd both agree that GGG would decidely be the bigger man vs Canelo. You in vegas this weekend buddy?
Solid rumors of the day...
Haymon wants to feed the corpse that is Robert Guerrero to Danny Boy for a fall massacre
Haymon is trying to put Thurman Porter on the broner card, good. The plan is for it to be the same day as Lucas vs Postol (foty candidate written all over it), so that scheduling is not so good.
And finally, it looks like Pascal will soon be leaving this world as he next up for Beterbiev
Haymon wants to feed the corpse that is Robert Guerrero to Danny Boy for a fall massacre
Haymon is trying to put Thurman Porter on the broner card, good. The plan is for it to be the same day as Lucas vs Postol (foty candidate written all over it), so that scheduling is not so good.
And finally, it looks like Pascal will soon be leaving this world as he next up for Beterbiev
Great fight last night between Leo and Mares. Can't believe Floyd fights in 2 weeks. Id totally forgotten!