In an effort to get all 18 involved and if anyone is interested, I'd be amiable to partnering up with a co-manager. We could swap ultimate authority for each pick but consult on every pick.
SOSH Real Fantasy Draft 2015: Interest and Rules Discussion
- Thread starter Scoops Bolling
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As a phantom who only manifests when there is a Real Fantasy draft, I would gladly renew my participation this year.
I think Scoops is correct. If we don't have 40 people lined up, it defeats the purpose. Doing AL only is great in a fantasy league, but this isn't a fantasy league. The goal is to discuss player value across the majors, so cutting out half of the pool feels like forcing it when there isn't enough interest.
I'm all for doing a slow pick fantasy league instead if there isn't enough interest. We'd have to move it to the fantasy sports forum, though, as it would no longer be a thread exploring player value and would instead just be another draft.
I'm all for doing a slow pick fantasy league instead if there isn't enough interest. We'd have to move it to the fantasy sports forum, though, as it would no longer be a thread exploring player value and would instead just be another draft.
So it seems this guy is down for the count. Is there legitimate interest in a sosh slow pick fantasy league? If so, we can start a thread in the fantasy forum and do the draft similarly to how this has been run there. We'd need to talk about roster size, keepers or no keepers (and how many), minor leaguers or no, scoring stats and format (ROTO, H2H?), ect. So let's start with the most important part, is there interest in a league?
If we have anything less than 14 I don't think it could qualify as a deep league and we might lose some interest. Ideally we'd find 30 people, but if we can reach 20 I think the league and the draft could be a ton of fun.
Are we thinking about a league with dues? I think dues are incredibly important to keeping people interested.
If there's enough interest, we'll have everyone chime in with their preferences and try to put something together that will make everyone more or less happy. I'm not trying to run the show here, I'm just hoping to herd the cats and get people discussing what we can and should do. We'll figure out the best way to actually run the league together and figure out who the best person to set up and manage the league is at that point.
We should probably try to make some of those decisions over the next week, though, as a slow pick draft will take a lot of time, even with relatively short windows for picks. If we have 20 teams with 30 roster spots (assuming some minor leaguers), that's 600 draft picks. We'd have around 75 days to play with even if we settled on everything today, so we'd need to have a minimum of 8 picks per day to make it, or three hour pick windows. Those windows will get smaller with every day we talk about it, so the clock is ticking.
Edit: And that is assuming we go around the clock, which is going to lead to people who have to be up for work either relying on an auto-pick feature over night or missing out on sleep for a fantasy league. Neither option is a good one, so we'd need to adjust the draft to avoid those situations. If we go with 12 hour windows per day for having the draft running, like 9am-9pm, then we have to go with 90 minute pick windows during operating hours.
We should probably try to make some of those decisions over the next week, though, as a slow pick draft will take a lot of time, even with relatively short windows for picks. If we have 20 teams with 30 roster spots (assuming some minor leaguers), that's 600 draft picks. We'd have around 75 days to play with even if we settled on everything today, so we'd need to have a minimum of 8 picks per day to make it, or three hour pick windows. Those windows will get smaller with every day we talk about it, so the clock is ticking.
Edit: And that is assuming we go around the clock, which is going to lead to people who have to be up for work either relying on an auto-pick feature over night or missing out on sleep for a fantasy league. Neither option is a good one, so we'd need to adjust the draft to avoid those situations. If we go with 12 hour windows per day for having the draft running, like 9am-9pm, then we have to go with 90 minute pick windows during operating hours.
I like the idea of using a more nuanced scoring system and avoiding the typical R, HR, RBI, SB, W, ERA, K, ect approach.
Ya the SABR categories sound great to me. I think if we can get 14 teams we should just start rolling with it.
I count 11 confirmed interested.
Snod
Curll
Makman
Galway
Just a Bit
Tax Man
Darnell
Stuck
Grimshaw
Scuba Steve
Prometheus
Any ideas for a platform? Can we swing this league with Yahoo or Espn? Do we have to pony up for CBS?
Snod
Curll
Makman
Galway
Just a Bit
Tax Man
Darnell
Stuck
Grimshaw
Scuba Steve
Prometheus
Any ideas for a platform? Can we swing this league with Yahoo or Espn? Do we have to pony up for CBS?
There's no one approach that's going to be terribly helpful to you at the moment, at least not until we decided on a platform, scoring options and roster size and utilization. PW has a good link above for the more advanced approach, or you could look at ESPN or Yahoo leagues through their fantasy sports portals to see how those typically shake out. The general idea is that there are a number of offensive and pitching categories that count towards a score. In some formats, it's head to head weekly and you earn wins and losses based on how many categories you lead in at the end of the week. Then there is Roto, which is more of a season long accumulation of stats. Where you finish in each stat category is worth points relative to everyone else. So finishing first in runs awards a higher number of points than finishing second, and second awards more than third and so on. Your total score is calculated at the end of the season based on where you finished in each scoring category.
I've only played head to head, so I may be missing some nuance with the roto desciption, but that's basically it. You draft a team based on the league you are in and the scoring categories you will be using. So it's not quite the same as building the best possible real world roster you can. You might be more apt to draft consistently higher career BABIP hitters in leagues that use average, because you would be more confident in their ability to avoid large swings in their BABIP and thus large swings in their batting average from year to year, but in a league that uses OBP, you might not put such a premium on BABIP because there are hitters who have their batting average all over the place, but still manage an excellent OBP from year to year. That's a fairly simple example, but it should get the idea across.
I've only played head to head, so I may be missing some nuance with the roto desciption, but that's basically it. You draft a team based on the league you are in and the scoring categories you will be using. So it's not quite the same as building the best possible real world roster you can. You might be more apt to draft consistently higher career BABIP hitters in leagues that use average, because you would be more confident in their ability to avoid large swings in their BABIP and thus large swings in their batting average from year to year, but in a league that uses OBP, you might not put such a premium on BABIP because there are hitters who have their batting average all over the place, but still manage an excellent OBP from year to year. That's a fairly simple example, but it should get the idea across.
Ok, so we're up to 13. We should probably start another thread at this point.
Went ahead and did that ->http://sonsofsamhorn.net/topic/87595-new-sosh-slow-pick-mlb-fantasy-league-spin-off-from-real-fantasy/
Went ahead and did that ->http://sonsofsamhorn.net/topic/87595-new-sosh-slow-pick-mlb-fantasy-league-spin-off-from-real-fantasy/