the 2004 ALCS, ten years later

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canyoubelieveit said:
OCab was excellent both offensively and defensively.  
 
Cabrera made a really, really tough play in Game 4 to get Jeter on a bases-loaded infield grounder to finally put an end to thew bottom of the 6th (when the Yanks rallied to pull ahead) and keep it close. Otherwise: it's 5-3 NYY with ARod up and the bases still loaded, and maybe the series slips away at this point. This play gets overshadowed by the 427 other more dramatic things that happened, but the fact that its so low on the list speaks volumes about what an amazing, heart-stopping series it was. 
 

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I have never been more nervous, and then relieved and exhilarated, than the Tony Clark at bat to end game 6. I was at the Can and will admit to have been standing near the ramp in the aisle in case Clark took Foulke deep there. Having been at the Grady is a Total Idiot Game, I wasn't willing to stand among the masses for another celebration at our expense for very long if disaster struck.

God bless Keith Foulke. How he managed to get through that at bat after his heroic performances in games 4 and 5 is one of the great somewhat under appreciated aspects of that wonderful series. Ortiz, Schill and Lowe deserve all the credit they get. But damn it, no reliever gives his team what Foulke gave the Sox in those three games.

When Clark missed strike three, I let out a primal scream that seemingly everyone in my vicinity heard. It was not exactly intentional and did not engender a lot of love among the Toilet Dwellers.

Such an amazing time.
 
I was such an anxious wreck that I had to go down to my basement to watch the end of game 6 alone.  I distinctly remember the moment when Foulke struck out Clark, because that was the moment - THE MOMENT -  when the cloud of anxiety lifted. 
 
In every other year, Tony Clark crushes that ball and we lose.  It didn't happen and history changed.
 

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I still think it was a travesty that Manny got the WS MVP.  Foulke pitched in all 4 iirc, and between that and his ALCS performance, he was my pick hands-down.
 
 
I always felt Bellhorn was the one who got shafted for WS MVP.  He hit .300/.563/.700 compared to Manny's .412/.500/.588.  He also had the game-winning home run in Game 1 after the Cardinals had tied it the previous half-inning (the only time the WS was ever in any sort of doubt - IIRC, the Sox scored in the 1st inning of every game and never trailed).
 

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2004 for myself and my girlfriend at the time was the best use of $1000 dollars that I have ever come up with to this day. All of the ALCS and WS home games. Wouldn't trade it for the world. Best post season ever
 

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Game 3 today and G38 has started the Game Thread:
 
"Friday is going to be a legit struggle, got a team fighting for its life against a kid making his first ever post season start, FWIW I take the kid Friday night, he's got nuts the size of Saturn."
 

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To get to the ALCS they had to get by the Angels. 10 years ago today they ended the ALDS with DLowe getting the 1st of his series clinching wins and Big Papi with his 1st walkoff of the 2004 postseason.
 
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UYd0uXxwzwo
 

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1. Ortiz.
2. Foulke.
3. Schilling.
4. Roberts.
5. Lowe.

Roberts only had one moment. But what a moment. A franchise altering moment.

Ortiz, well, because. And Foulke was incredible. Lowe was unreal in game 7. As was Schilling in game 6.

Just incredible.
I've never fully bought in on the Dave Roberts narrative; of him, Millar, and Mueller, he had by far the easiest task.
 

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The Clark at bat was terrifying, because it was a walk off situation and because Foulke looked like he was laboring.  Still, it was a 2-run lead and the doomsday scenario was still relatively unlikely.  Not saying I wasn't crapping my pants, but the inning that really got me was the top of the 13th in game 5, when the Yankees got a man to third on three passed balls and 'tek just looked like he had no idea where the ball was going.  
 
It wasn't a walk off situation, but the Sox had just had their best chance to win the game in the bottom of the 12th, with Manny and Papi up, and Papi had that play where he got out on the basepaths.  Loaiza still looked fresh, and we had 6-7-8 coming up.  When 'tek held on to strike 3 on a 3-2 count, you knew that no matter what, the Sox would at a minimum get the top of the order back up in the 14th if they didn't win it in the bottom of the 13th, so that was a huge relief.  That inning was the most nerve-wracking I can remember in watching sports.  But between Sierra's strike out there, and the 2-out automatic double that Clark hit in the 9th inning that would have scored Sierra if it hadn't taken a right-hand turn and bounced into the stands, I actually started to think the Sox might have a chance.
 

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moondog80 said:
I've never fully bought in on the Dave Roberts narrative; of him, Millar, and Mueller, he had by far the easiest task.
All Millar had to do was stand there and not swing, then walk to first.  Easy!
 

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I dunno...if Kapler isn't right on top of that line drive Jeter hit in the 12th in Game 5 (thank goodness Kapler replaced Trot at some point), game could have gone the Yanks' way that inning.  It might not have looked heroic, but Buck even remarks on the jump Kapler had on the ball.  Pokey I can't remember any particular bit of heroism, though.  Just solid defense on the occasions the ball was hit to him.
I'm glad you mentioned that Kapler play in the 12th.  That was one of the best "forgotten" moments of the entire series.  Almost certainly a  series-saver.  Remember, Cairo was already on second, having singled and having advanced to second when Manny missed the in-between hop, with one out.  Jeter hits one of his patented inside-out soft liners to right.  Off the bat, there's no question that the ball falls in, Cairo scores, Jeter is a hero, the curse lives, etc.  In the split-second after Jeter made contact, did anyone in the world think that Kapler would be there -- partly due to positioning, partly due to that ridiculous jump -- to make the catch and ultimately extend the game? Nixon doesn't get that ball.  
 
And I remember being furious at Tito for lifting Nixon and having Kapler pinch run in the 8th after Nixon's crucial single.  Playoff Tito, man.
 
Game 5 feels like yesterday in some ways, and in other ways I find myself re-watching parts of it to confirm that it actually happened.
 

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I was such an anxious wreck that I had to go down to my basement to watch the end of game 6 alone.  I distinctly remember the moment when Foulke struck out Clark, because that was the moment - THE MOMENT -  when the cloud of anxiety lifted. 
 
2004 me is very jealous that your anxiety lifted.  I remember wandering around a Somerville Walgreens with my roommate a couple hours before game 7, and neither of us being able to focus on choosing snacks or even forming words. It was so improbably that we had come back to force a seventh game, yet we couldn't stop ourselves from thinking that the ultimate topper to the nut-punch of 2003 was to almost pull off the greatest comeback in baseball history, only to still lose at the very end. As if it were the last thing the Yankees hadn't done to us.
 
(Of course, until Foulke stabbed the comebacker, I also had visions of the Cardinals tying Game 4 in the 9th and becoming the second MLB team to ever come back from being down 0-3 in a series.  So maybe I thought out too many contingencies.)
 
mjm3773 said:
 
I always felt Bellhorn was the one who got shafted for WS MVP.  He hit .300/.563/.700 compared to Manny's .412/.500/.588.  He also had the game-winning home run in Game 1 after the Cardinals had tied it the previous half-inning (the only time the WS was ever in any sort of doubt - IIRC, the Sox scored in the 1st inning of every game and never trailed).
 
Co-sign.  He also knocked in the deciding runs in Game 2, though far less dramatically.  If awards could be given in random four game increments, Bellhorn would be the clear MVP from game 6 of the ALCS through game 2 of the WS.
 

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(Of course, until Foulke stabbed the comebacker, I also had visions of the Cardinals tying Game 4 in the 9th and becoming the second MLB team to ever come back from being down 0-3 in a series.  So maybe I thought out too many contingencies.)
 
I'm glad I wasn't the only one thinking that.
 
My big memory for this series was the following.  I worked a 6am-2pm shift on the west coast.  My commute involved a 2 mile walk and then a short train ride to get to work.  The morning after game 3 of the ALCS as I walked to work I was crying, tears were streaming down my face as I envisioned the Yankees winning again, and I was trying to figure out if I even wanted to watch game 4 that night.  I was talking (out-loud) to myself debating the reason to and to not watch. I finally decided that if some way, some how the Red Sox came back and won even just one game (let alone all 4), I would never forgive myself if I didn't watch. 
 

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Bellhorn is the poster boy for under appreciated, over looked, betrayed in my books.
 
First of all he almost put up a 4 war in 04.
 
Secondly he hit the big homer in game 6.
 
And we have to admit in game 7 we were getting worried, Tito had put Pedro in for some damn reason and the Yankees had some life. Then Bellhorn drilled one off the rightfield pole. The fact Yankee fans dug their curse signs out of the trash after they scored a few runs, before his homer let us watch them get their spirits crushed again.
 
And again admit it, all the errors the blown lead in game 1 of the series, seemed like a choke, I mean they won great ALCS before in 75 and 86. It looked like another nut punch then he took Batshit deep.
 
It was a tight game in game 3 when he had the 2 out double.
 
I never really doubted Pedro and Lowe would beat teams they had not seen them before in St. Louis, But for 4 games in a row Bellhorn had a big hit, and the biggest hit in 3 of them.
 
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It really is amazing how much of a breeze the 2007 playoffs were by comparison to 2004.  In 2007, once Josh Beckett stepped on the mound in ALCS game 5, unless he got hit by a meteor, we could have confidence.  Game 6 was a laugher all the way through, and game 7 was in control once Daisuke handed it over to Okerjeemer and Paps after 5.  The Indians' only chance had been to step on our throats while Josh Beckett was on the mound - they took their best shot, but it wasn't enough.
 
2004, by contrast, we were up against much more evenly-matched opponents, we had more weaknesses and glaring holes in our roster... we weren't clearly and obviously the best team in baseball all season long, the way we were in 2007.  In 2004, everything was a struggle, they had to overcome more adversity, plus we had the weight of history to go against.  It's hard for me to say, as a fan, which run was the more enjoyable overall.
 

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mjm3773 said:
 
I always felt Bellhorn was the one who got shafted for WS MVP.  He hit .300/.563/.700 compared to Manny's .412/.500/.588.  He also had the game-winning home run in Game 1 after the Cardinals had tied it the previous half-inning (the only time the WS was ever in any sort of doubt - IIRC, the Sox scored in the 1st inning of every game and never trailed).
 
That was such a huge hit.  The Sox had blown a 7-2 lead and a 9-7 lead, and were in terrible position for extra innings.  Tito brought Foulke in, protecting a 2-run lead in the 8th, but the Cardinals tied it up on two errors.  So, it was a tie game, and Foulke only had one more inning, and the Cardinals had Isringhousen in the bullpen.  You could just feel the collective panic in Fenway that the team had just won the greatest series in baseball history but was about to blow a 7-2 lead in game 1 of the world series.  Belhorn puts them back in the lead while Foulke is still in the game, which saved the day.  
 

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Actually, Game 7 in '07 was only a laugher once Pedroia took Betancourt deep. We'd taken the early 3-0 lead, but they'd chipped back to 3-2 pretty much immediately. All it would have taken for CLE to have a late-inning tie game and life was Joel Skinner waving in Kenny Lofton on an obvious scoring play, after Kenny reached on a beautiful Julio Lugo dropped pop-up (and advanced to 2B on the next play) that felt like the start of wheels coming off. Even then it was only one out and runners on first and third before Oki got that miraculous around-the-horn DP. And this was a series they looked overmatched in outside Beckett's starts in the first 4 games.
 
Definitely a bit easier in the end than '04, but that game was pretty nerve-wracking too.
 
As for '04, I'll never forget the progression of Rosanna Scotto's face as the series turned. Game 3 over, to the local Fox NY news--she's lol'ing hard, "Classic Red Sox!." After Game 4 it was "haha, we let them win one! Isn't that cute." Game 5 she's a bit more reserved, pretends to act professional and barely notice. Game 6 was a hint of anger over this fake "let's go get 'em boys!" type attitude. After Game 7 it was like someone told her a family member had been kidnapped right before airtime. She kind of stood as proxy for all Yankee fans and it was orgasmic watching it one night at a time.
 

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I remember someone describing Game 7 of the '07 ALCS as the closest 11-2 game of all time and that always stuck with me.
 

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I remember someone describing Game 7 of the '07 ALCS as the closest 11-2 game of all time and that always stuck with me.
 
It was 10-3, but your point stands.  Early on, a friend of mine and I were trying to figure out what kind of a lead would be comfortable in this game, and decided it was "16 - the current inning".  So a 15 run lead in the 1st, 14 run lead in the 2nd, etc.  When the Sox got a 7-run lead in the 9th, we actually reached the "safe zone" for the first time.
 

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Doc Zero said:
I remember someone describing Game 7 of the '07 ALCS as the closest 11-2 game of all time and that always stuck with me.
I've been trying to find a highlight reel of the Pedroia bomb for ages. Youtube hasn't been much help. But that home run was huuuuge.
 

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canyoubelieveit said:
 
It was 10-3, but your point stands.  Early on, a friend of mine and I were trying to figure out what kind of a lead would be comfortable in this game, and decided it was "16 - the current inning".  So a 15 run lead in the 1st, 14 run lead in the 2nd, etc.  When the Sox got a 7-run lead in the 9th, we actually reached the "safe zone" for the first time.
 
That's 2004, right?  
 
The thing that made the 11-2 game seem close was that it should have been 3-3 but for Lofton inexplicably being held at third base.
 

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Doc Zero said:
I remember someone describing Game 7 of the '07 ALCS as the closest 11-2 game of all time and that always stuck with me.
Eh, there was always some fear and doubt but it really felt pretty comfortable after the last 3 days. I think my worry receptors may have been totally burnt out by then.
 

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While we're being nostalgic and discussing WEEI telecasts, does anyone have Game 5 of the 1999 ALDS? Pretty unlikely, but that game holds a special place in my heart as well.
 

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As for '04, I'll never forget the progression of Rosanna Scotto's face as the series turned. Game 3 over, to the local Fox NY news--she's lol'ing hard, "Classic Red Sox!." After Game 4 it was "haha, we let them win one! Isn't that cute." Game 5 she's a bit more reserved, pretends to act professional and barely notice. Game 6 was a hint of anger over this fake "let's go get 'em boys!" type attitude. After Game 7 it was like someone told her a family member had been kidnapped right before airtime. She kind of stood as proxy for all Yankee fans and it was orgasmic watching it one night at a time.
 
Somewhere on VHS I have her reaction to the WS win after the national Fox telecast of WS Game 4.  Fox 5's news intro led off with an areal shot of Kenmore Square, with dozens of cops standing around and hundreds (or thousands) of people milling around in a daze.  Rosanna put on her sassy New York voice with "Come on, Boston - act like you've been there before!"  
 
Until that night, that would have put me into a rage.  But suddenly it just seemed so pathetic...
 

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I've been trying to find a highlight reel of the Pedroia bomb for ages. Youtube hasn't been much help. But that home run was huuuuge.
On MLB Network, Mike Lowell said that the explosion of cheering when the Sox turned a double play (started by Lowell) to kill the Indians rally the previous inning was the single loudest sound he ever heard in any ballpark ever.  I was at the back of section 19 sitting next to a guy who worked for BIS, not the evil banking institution but Baseball Info Solutions, and this guy was from Ohio.  When the Sox turned that double play he screamed "FUCK!" at the top of his lungs and I could only tell because the lip reading was really easy.  His scream didn't make a dent in the instantaneous wall of sound that had been created at Fenway.
 

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That's 2004, right?  
 
The thing that made the 11-2 game seem close was that it should have been 3-3 but for Lofton inexplicably being held at third base.
My apologies...I've been in a 2004 state of mind.
 

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On MLB Network, Mike Lowell said that the explosion of cheering when the Sox turned a double play (started by Lowell) to kill the Indians rally the previous inning was the single loudest sound he ever heard in any ballpark ever.  I was at the back of section 19 sitting next to a guy who worked for BIS, not the evil banking institution but Baseball Info Solutions, and this guy was from Ohio.  When the Sox turned that double play he screamed "FUCK!" at the top of his lungs and I could only tell because the lip reading was really easy.  His scream didn't make a dent in the instantaneous wall of sound that had been created at Fenway.
God I miss playoff baseball
 
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While we're being nostalgic and discussing WEEI telecasts, does anyone have Game 5 of the 1999 ALDS? Pretty unlikely, but that game holds a special place in my heart as well.
 
It was on the Pedro server, but we lost our server copy when the guy hosting our server decided to shut it down and stop responding to messages.
 
Various SoSHers have it in their personal collections.  I've got it burned on a DVD.  It'll get uploaded to the (new) server sometime soon, I'm pretty sure.
 

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The Clark moment in G6 has been discussed many, many times here - it would be interesting to collect every post discussing it over the last 10 yrs - in terms of "white knuckle ride" it does not get scarier.
 
To me what is remarkable about that AB was being conditioned to Red Sox doom, which would feel like an anvil on your shoulders at moments like this - and then the almost shocking finish where there is redemption/elation instead of failure/doom. 
 
I had experienced this before...I think the first one was the Hendu HR game. I stumbled into the archiving of that game on YouTube last night, and could recall specifically that feeling of dread watching that AB.  He nearly whiffs several times, fouling off about 3-4 tough pitches; then I relived my disbelief when he hit that HR (though it was followed by even more dread until  the Angels were fianlly put away in the 11th). Another moment just like this, mentioned above, was the Lowe/Long backwards K to end the 2003 ALDS.  But how many moments of impending doom with a surprise redemption were there in that 2004 ALCS?...10? 15?... maybe 20 or 30 if you count them all? It is the common thread of those "4 days in October" for Sox fans. The Clark AB is arguably the biggest one of all time, in terms of the risk/reward being so extreme on either side. I cannot imagine the stress involved if that had been in G7 rather than G6...
 
I still have no idea how I survived these games, and am still so grateful for the outcome.
 

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MentalDisabldLst said:
 
It was on the Pedro server, but we lost our server copy when the guy hosting our server decided to shut it down and stop responding to messages.
 
Various SoSHers have it in their personal collections.  I've got it burned on a DVD.  It'll get uploaded to the (new) server sometime soon, I'm pretty sure.
 
I have a video of that game, but I'm not even sure what my version is from. Doesn't quite seem like a national broadcast.
 
Specifically, I'd like the WEEI version, as it was especially epic. I was forced to listen to this game on a Walkman of all things, up in New Hampshire, because my parents had decided that Game 5 of the ALDS was less important than getting a good night's sleep on a school night.
 
Trup's grand slam call was basically my favorite moment up until 2004.
 

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Re the Clark AB in Game 6 (from Don't Let Us Win Tonight):
 
Keith Foulke: I had pressure on myself every single pitch. Every time, I had a purpose in my mind before I made the pitch. This is where I want to go. If it didn't go there – even if I got an out – I'd get a little disappointed. I wanted to be perfect every time. At that point, I was battling. The tank was empty and I was struggling to get the ball down in the zone. My control wasn't there and I was just gutting it out. 
 
Theo Epstein:  The single most anxious moment of the whole series for me was the end of Game Six. The Yankees got a couple of guys on and Tony Clark came to bat against Keith Foulke, representing the winning run. Foulke had been superhuman through the whole series and had thrown so many pitches, his arm should have been falling off – and, in fact, it probably did negatively impact the rest of his career, which went downhill after that postseason – but so Clark comes up against Foulke and I was thinking that one swing of the bat could end this thing, when we're so close to getting to Game Seven. I could barely watch. I think I watched that whole at-bat through the cracks of my fingers, covering my eyes. The strike zone got real small for that at-bat, and he just started pumping fastball after fastball – small strike zone, tired closer, Tony Clark who had been having some pretty good swings, short porch in right field. I couldn't watch. I felt like a year after the Aaron Boone experience, we were potentially going to see it again, and that might have been more than I could have handled.  
 
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The Clark at-bat, particularly with him taking a 2-0 fastball right down the middle -- McCarver, is his best observation ever, said, "You have to wonder what Tony Clark was looking for -- really stands out for me, but there is another moment in game that gets overlooked:
 
Top of the fourth, scoreless, two outs and Millar on third. Varitek, with two strikes, takes his hand off the bat to call time just as Lieber is starting his delivery. Joe West does NOT grant timeout and Varitek has to quickly put his hand back on the bat to foul the pitch off. If he can't pull that off the Sox don't score.
 

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Is there the video...I think maybe made by a SOSHer...that was of the Yankee series, where games 1-3 were in black and white and then Ortiz hits the HR in game 4 and as he hits it, it turns into color...anywhere available?
 
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Is there the video...I think maybe made by a SOSHer...that was of the Yankee series, where games 1-3 were in black and white and then Ortiz hits the HR in game 4 and as he hits it, it turns into color...anywhere available?
 
That sounds like the Brian Fox video.  It's on the pedro server, under /Red Sox/2004 Playoffs/Compilations/ .  If it's not that one, it might be one of the other compilation videos posted there, including the one by CaptainLaddie and the one by Tonyandpals ("cool kids").
 
 
Hank Scorpio said:
I have a video of that game, but I'm not even sure what my version is from. Doesn't quite seem like a national broadcast.
 
Specifically, I'd like the WEEI version, as it was especially epic.
 
I've just ripped a version of this game which is the FOX national broadcast.  It's Buck & McCarver but at least you get the full treatment, with "catcher cam" and replays and and interviews Bob Brenly on the sidelines and Keith Olbermann as studio host.  I'm uploading now, should be up by tomorrow morning.
 

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The Clark at-bat, particularly with him taking a 2-0 fastball right down the middle -- McCarver, is his best observation ever, said, "You have to wonder what Tony Clark was looking for -- really stands out for me, but there is another moment in game that gets overlooked:
 
Top of the fourth, scoreless, two outs and Millar on third. Varitek, with two strikes, takes his hand off the bat to call time just as Lieber is starting his delivery. Joe West does NOT grant timeout and Varitek has to quickly put his hand back on the bat to foul the pitch off. If he can't pull that off the Sox don't score.
 
Thank you for mentioning that detail in the Varitek AB.  That was a huge AB and critical to the game (and series)...I never noticed that detail before, and it's stuff like this that makes me love reading this thread.
 
By the way, where are all these videos and audio files hiding that everyone is referencing?  I don't know what the Pedro server is.
 

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Somewhere on VHS I have her reaction to the WS win after the national Fox telecast of WS Game 4.  Fox 5's news intro led off with an areal shot of Kenmore Square, with dozens of cops standing around and hundreds (or thousands) of people milling around in a daze.  Rosanna put on her sassy New York voice with "Come on, Boston - act like you've been there before!"  
 
Until that night, that would have put me into a rage.  But suddenly it just seemed so pathetic...
This is so awesome. I missed this!
 
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Re the Clark AB in Game 6 (from Don't Let Us Win Tonight):
 
Keith Foulke: I had pressure on myself every single pitch. Every time, I had a purpose in my mind before I made the pitch. This is where I want to go. If it didn't go there – even if I got an out – I'd get a little disappointed. I wanted to be perfect every time. At that point, I was battling. The tank was empty and I was struggling to get the ball down in the zone. My control wasn't there and I was just gutting it out. 
 
Theo Epstein:  The single most anxious moment of the whole series for me was the end of Game Six. The Yankees got a couple of guys on and Tony Clark came to bat against Keith Foulke, representing the winning run. Foulke had been superhuman through the whole series and had thrown so many pitches, his arm should have been falling off – and, in fact, it probably did negatively impact the rest of his career, which went downhill after that postseason – but so Clark comes up against Foulke and I was thinking that one swing of the bat could end this thing, when we're so close to getting to Game Seven. I could barely watch. I think I watched that whole at-bat through the cracks of my fingers, covering my eyes. The strike zone got real small for that at-bat, and he just started pumping fastball after fastball – small strike zone, tired closer, Tony Clark who had been having some pretty good swings, short porch in right field. I couldn't watch. I felt like a year after the Aaron Boone experience, we were potentially going to see it again, and that might have been more than I could have handled.  
 
John Henry: I have never felt such intense stress – ever
 
"HAD TO MAKE IT INTERESTING!!"
 

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Folks, 
 
I found this site after the 2004 season. My mother in law died back in NJ right before the ALCS started, I flew out to meet up with my woman and her family after game 2 (we live in SF Bay). Watching game 3 (after the rainout on friday) surrounded by a bunch of dim witted Yankee fans(better known as the in-laws), then going to two days of a wake, I was too fried to watch game 4. My sister tells me, Monday morning at the funeral, what happened in game 4. The only game I didn't watch, they won. I vowed not to watch as long as they kept winning (not an easy feat in New Jersey that month).
 
They kept winning. I watched every inning of the WS, and came back to read the game threads here, thanks for letting me re-live the minute by minute drama.
 
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canyoubelieveit said:
 
Thank you for mentioning that detail in the Varitek AB.  That was a huge AB and critical to the game (and series)...I never noticed that detail before, and it's stuff like this that makes me love reading this thread.
 
By the way, where are all these videos and audio files hiding that everyone is referencing?  I don't know what the Pedro server is.
 
Indeed. Peter Gammons has called that the biggest at-bat of the game. Tek went from an 0-2 count to singling up the middle after fouling off several pitches. Tenacious.
 

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glasspusher said:
 
Indeed. Peter Gammons has called that the biggest at-bat of the game. Tek went from an 0-2 count to singling up the middle after fouling off several pitches. Tenacious.
 
And it's really a beautiful piece of hitting.  Doesn't overswing, hits it where it's pitched, solid contact, and you can tell instantly that it's going to be a run-scoring base hit.  It would be aesthetically satisfying to watch even if it weren't a big hit in a big game.
 

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MentalDisabldLst said:
 
That sounds like the Brian Fox video.  It's on the pedro server, under /Red Sox/2004 Playoffs/Compilations/ .  If it's not that one, it might be one of the other compilation videos posted there, including the one by CaptainLaddie and the one by Tonyandpals ("cool kids").
 
 
 
I've just ripped a version of this game which is the FOX national broadcast.  It's Buck & McCarver but at least you get the full treatment, with replays and and interviews and Keith Olbermann as studio host.  I'm uploading now, should be up by tomorrow morning.
Yes! Brian Fox, that's the one! Thanks!
 

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canyoubelieveit said:
 
And it's really a beautiful piece of hitting.  Doesn't overswing, hits it where it's pitched, solid contact, and you can tell instantly that it's going to be a run-scoring base hit.  It would be aesthetically satisfying to watch even if it weren't a big hit in a big game.
 
Yes. Their strategy against Lieber in that game, at least for lefties, was not to try to pull him. Hit everything up the middle and to left, and with excellent results. The evolution of the sox' strategy of how to handle the MFYs in that series is a thing of beauty.
 
Edit: saw similar stuff to that with the Detroit and StL series last year. Second time around on pitchers and hitters, look out.
 

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Say what you want about the on air talent, the Fox direction for the ALCS was fantastic. It's amazing to watch the level of focus every single member of the Sox had, even after Damon's second home run in game 7, and Fox did a great job capturing it.
 

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I have been searching for a clip of the Clark AB. Anyone?

Nothing will ever top that level of stress. Shaking, pouring sweat.

I would love to relive that.

I have a morbid curiosity what that AB would have felt like in Game 7. It's really hard to imagine that.
 

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I don't think this amusing tidbit from game 4* was shown on the tv broadcast or mentioned on the radio:
 
When ARod hit a HR over the green monster, someone outside the stadium threw it back over the wall where it landed in left center field.  Damon picked it up and threw it back up and over the monster, out of the park (which is an impressive throw for Damon).  A few seconds later, the ball came back over the wall again and landed somewhere in the outfield.  It was as though a god outside the machine wouldn't accept an ARod home run ball, and needed to keep regurgitating it back.
 
*I'm pretty sure this happened game 4 against Lowe, but it may have been game 3 against Arroyo.  
 

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I watched the Clark AB on a 2 inch screen tv.  
 
My wife and I had taken a trip to Yosemite during the ALDS, and I watched the games on that tiny tv.  They won all 3, of course,  Then I watched games 1 and 2 of the ALCS on our regular tv back at home, and they lost (of course).  After seeing games 3-5 at Fenway, I flew home and felt that I had no choice but to watch game 6 on that ridiculously small tv.  I was pacing madly with that tiny screen in my hands and remember being crouched in a ball when Clark somehow swung through that final pitch.
 
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