The 2014 Red Sox and Situational Hitting

ScubaSteveAvery

Master of the Senate
SoSH Member
Jul 29, 2007
8,329
Everywhere
To the eye, the 2014 Red Sox seem bad at situational hitting.  In the Second Guessers thread for the Texas series, Kiekeredinthehead mentioned that the Sox failed at 2 more hit and runs.  From a purely observational stand point, it seems like this year's team is bad at executing plays like hit and runs, making outs on the base paths, and failing to move runners over.  At times it seems like they achieve all three in one inning. 
 
I poked around and didn't find any "quick and dirty" way of measuring this kind of stuff.  I found no stat, for instance, that measured the success rate of hit and run plays. So I turned to the Baseball-Refrence base running and situational hitting data derived from RetroSheet stats. This isn't really scientific study, but I used data form the 2012, 2013, and 2014 teams seeing that the 2012 team was terrible, the 2013 team was awesome, and the 2014 team is currently at .500. 
 
The first stat I looked at is the "Out-on-Base" stat.  This basically looks at how many times a runner is put out making a base running play, such as attempting to advance on a fly ball, attempting to reach another base on a hit, getting doubled up on a line drive, or attempting to advance on passed ball/wild pitch.  B-Ref makes clear that this stat does not include caught stealing, pick offs, or force plays.  They also measure which base the out was made at too, which is helpful.  
 
[tablegrid= 2014 Red Sox and Outs on Base ]Stat OOB OOB1 OOB2 OOB3 OOBHM OOB/Gm 2012             Red Sox 51 10 16 11 14 0.315 AL Lg Avg 55 10 17 12 16 0.340 2013             Red Sox 59 5 20 9 25 0.364 AL Lg Avg 52 9 15 12 16 0.321 2014             Red Sox 13 1 5 3 4 0.361 AL Lg Avg 11 1 3 2 4 0.306 [/tablegrid] 
 
These numbers seem consistent from year to year.  They are also subject to how many runners a team puts on base.  Last year the Red Sox probably put more runners on base than league average, which increases the opportunities to create outs on base. Overall in 2014, the Red Sox are essentially league average overall.  They have made more than the average number of outs at 2B, but not by a ton.  Clearly, this isn't the culprit for the poor play. 
 
The second stat I could find is the "Productive Out" stat at Baseball-Refernce that was created by Elias and ESPN.  This stat measures three circumstances: 1) successful sacrifice for a pitcher with one out; 2) advancing any runner with no outs; and 3) driving in a baserunner with the second out of the inning.  This stat is limited, but encompasses traditional sacrifices, as well as general runner advancement: 
 
[tablegrid= 2014 Red Sox Productive Out Percentage ]Stat Productive Out % 2012   Red Sox 32% AL Lg Avg 35% 2013   Red Sox 31% AL Lg Avg 31% 2014   Red Sox 25% AL Lg Avg 32% [/tablegrid]
 
This is a bit more helpful.  The Red Sox have been far below league average in 'productive outs.' In previous years they were league average, or slightly below, but this year they are 8% below AL average.  In fact, they are dead last in the AL in this stat.  The Twins are slightly better with a 26% rate. 
 
The third stat I could find is the Baseball-Refernence "Advances" stat.  There are two different advancement scenarios: 1) less than 2 outs with a runner on 3rd and the runner scores; and 2) no outs, runner on second and advances.  
 
[tablegrid= 2014 Red Sox Base Runner Advancement ]Stat less than 2 Outs, 3B, RS 0 outs, 2B, Adv 2012     Red Sox 57% 58% AL Lg Avg 52% 56% 2013     Red Sox 53% 55% AL Lg Avg 51% 54% 2014     Red Sox 47% 41% AL Lg Avg 52% 55% [/tablegrid]
 
Once again we have confirmation that the 2014 squad is awful at situational hitting.  In the first scenario, the Red Sox are again dead last in the AL. In the second scenario, the Sox are second to last, with only the Rays below them (39% of time they advance in this scenario).  Both scenarios are really concerning.  In the first, it shows that the Red Sox not only fail to hit with runners on third, but cannot even sacrifice them in.  This is more of an approach problem than skill problem.  The same is true of the second scenario.  In scenario two you can bunt the runner to third, or hit to the right side of the infield and move them over if you fail to get a hit. 
 
When I have more time, I'll dig into the individual player data on this to see if there are repeat offenders to the situational hitting blunders.  But what is clear from the stats is that lack of runs (and wins) are not because of giving away outs on the base paths, but from a lack of situational hitting by either getting hits with RISP, or by simply advancing runners in the most advantageous run scoring scenarios.  
 
Does anyone have any better stats that measures this stuff?  I'd be interested to see why the approach this year is so different, especially when in previous years the teams were close to league average. 
 
Edit: I updated the OOB chart, which reflects Bradley getting thrown out at home.  I also updated the productive outs (lg avg went down one percent), and the base-running advancement stats.  Red Sox are still in last in the first scenario and second to last in the second scenario. 
 

canyoubelieveit

Member
SoSH Member
Apr 8, 2006
7,894
Apologies if what I'm about to describe has a common sabermetric name and equation already, but what I'd be interested to see is a simple calculation of run-scoring efficiency (or lack thereof) compared with other teams based on:
 
runs / (hits + walks + HBP + runners who reach on an error)
 
This would take into account all of the ways that the Red Sox have been squandering opportunities...whether it's runners thrown out on the basepaths, inability to get hits with runners in scoring position, inability to move runners over and score from 3rd with less than 2 outs, etc.
 

ScubaSteveAvery

Master of the Senate
SoSH Member
Jul 29, 2007
8,329
Everywhere
canyoubelieveit said:
Apologies if what I'm about to describe has a common sabermetric name and equation already, but what I'd be interested to see is a simple calculation of run-scoring efficiency (or lack thereof) compared with other teams based on:
 
runs / (hits + walks + HBP + runners who reach on an error)
 
This would take into account all of the ways that the Red Sox have been squandering opportunities...whether it's runners thrown out on the basepaths, inability to get hits with runners in scoring position, inability to move runners over and score from 3rd with less than 2 outs, etc.
 
I looked this up and found at B-Ref the run scoring percentage metric - (R-HR)/(H + HBP+BB-HR+G_pr). G_pr is games as pinch runner. This measures the number of times a runner eventually scores a run.  The Red Sox are at 27% with an AL league average of 31%.  This puts Boston at second to last, right above Houston.  The 2013 squad had as RS% of 32% against a league average of 29%.  That was good for best overall in the American League. 
 

Snodgrass'Muff

oppresses WARmongers
SoSH Member
Mar 11, 2008
27,644
Roanoke, VA
There are some great stats at b-r.com that can be illuminating here.  If you click on the AL or NL link at the top of the standings, then change to all of MLB you can go into the batting tab and pull up a bunch of different stats.  Among them is the percentage of runners that score from third with less than 2 outs.  The Red Sox score 47% of the time in that situation, good for 6th worst in MLB.  Only SF, WAS, SD and MIA are worse and CHC is tied with them at 47%.
 
For runners on second with zero outs the Red Sox score 41% of the time, which makes them second to last with only TBR being worse.
 
http://www.baseball-reference.com/leagues/MLB/2014-situational-batting.shtml
 

kieckeredinthehead

Member
SoSH Member
Jun 26, 2006
8,635
I'm willing to believe that the Red Sox have data to show that being aggressive on the bases leads to more runs in the long run. But the failed hit-and-run is brutal to watch. Here are all the caught stealings this year, I've marked the ones I think were failed hit-and-runs (either missed sign, or batter swung through) with ***:
 
04/04: Bottom 6, 0 outs, tied 2-2. Ortiz at bat, Pedroia on 1st. Pedroia caught stealing 2B (-8% WE. Sox lose 6-2 when Brewers score 4 off Mujica.
 
04/05: Bottom 2, 2 outs, Sox down 3-2. JBJ at bat, Herrera on 1st. Herrera caught stealing 2B (-3% WE). Sox lose 7-6 when Brewers score 1 off Badenhop in 11th.
 
***04/09: Bottom 4, 1 out, Sox up 1-0. Nava at bat, Bogaerts on 1st. Nava strikes out looking, Bogaerts caught stealing (-5% WE). Sox win 4-2.
 
***04/12: Top 7, 2 outs, Sox down 6-4. Bogaerts at bat, Carp on 1st, Napoli on 3rd. Carp caught stealing 2nd, Bogaerts doesn’t swing (-7% WE). Sox lose 7-4. 
 
***04/21: Bottom 8, 1 out, Sox down 7-4. Herrera at bat, Nava on 1st, Bogaerts on 2nd. Herrera strikeout swinging, Bogaerts caught stealing 3rd (-18% WE, 3rd most important play of game). Sox lose 7-5.
 
***04/23: Bottom 7, 1 out, Sox up 4-1. AJP at bat, Napoli on 1st. Napoli caught stealing 2nd, AJP swinging (-1% WE). Sox win 5-1. Napoli breaks his finger on the play.
 
04/26: Top 4, 1 out, Sox up 6-3. Victorino at bat, Pedroia on 1st. Pedroia caught stealing 2nd, Victorino looking (-2% WE). Sox win 7-6.
 
***05/05: Bottom 8, 2 out, tied 2-2. AJP at bat, Herrera on 1st. Herrera caught stealing 2nd, AJP looking (-5% WE). Sox lose 3-2 when A’s score 1 off Capuano in 10th.
 
05/06: Bottom 9, 1 out, tied 3-3. Victorino at bat, Pedroia on 1st. Pedroia caught stealing 2nd, Victorino looking (-10% WE). Sox win 4-3 on Sizemore’s wall ball walk off.
 
***05/10: Top 2, 1 out, tied 0-0. Middlebrooks at bat, Ross on 1st. Ross caught stealing 2nd, WMB looking (-4% WE). Sox win 8-3.
 
***05/10: Top 6, 0 outs, Sox up 6-3. Victorino at bat, Pedroia on 1st. Pedroia caught stealing 2nd, Victorino swinging (-3% WE). Sox win 8-3.
 
The two most egregious were probably the Herrera-Bogaerts strike-out/throw-out double play against the Yankees on 4/21, and AJP missing the sign on 5/5. And, of course, watching them give outs last night to a pitcher unable to get them himself. 
 
Pedroia has been responsible for 4 of the team's 11 caught stealing. Given where he bats in the lineup, somebody needs to start giving him the red light. It would be great to track successful hit-and-runs for comparison, it seems difficult to evaluate this in lieu of that data. I guess the best we could do is look at how often a runner goes first to third, or even first to home on a single/double, that might get at it indirectly. 
 
This feels kind of like the sacrifice bunt problem. If sacrifices were 100% successful, it would be valuable to do so occasionally. But if you incorporate the abysmal success rate, it's a dumb play. It feels like the Red Sox haven't incorporated runners or batters missing the sign into their calculations for hit-and-runs.
 

koufax37

Member
SoSH Member
Jul 20, 2005
2,474
While the 2014 Sox offense has seemed frustrating, and I happen to believe in Situational Hitting(tm) and Clutch Performance(R) a little more than most around here, I think the biggest cause of what's going on is random distribution of random positive outcomes not going quite in our favor, and I'm not expecting it to last 162 games.
 
Farrell certainly isn't an aggressive and brilliant in game tactician, but mostly I want our guys going up there and being themselves one at bat at a time.  It is hard to take when you get deep counts and strikeouts with runners on third, etc, or when you have 2nd and 3rd and no outs and back to back 4-3s would get you two runs and you get nothing out of it, but I still think we are two thirds "patience young Skywalker" and only one third "choke up and slap the first strike towards the second baseman already".  I think that over the course of the summer, not getting too caught up in situational productive out small ball will yield as many wins from 2-2 count three run homers as it will take away from not moving a runner over.
 
I'm painting with a broad brush and not thoughtful specifics, but I do that to combat the small sample size and specific example over analysis (which in the specifics I tend to agree with).
 

Plympton91

bubble burster
SoSH Member
Oct 19, 2008
12,408
Nice informative post SSA.

I'd be interested in what extent good situational hitting, much like clutch hitting, just correlates to "good hitting." Are the any instances of mediocre hitters being especially good situational hitters? Or, if I looked at a list of the top situational hitters, would I just find it to be a list of the best overall hitters?
 

ScubaSteveAvery

Master of the Senate
SoSH Member
Jul 29, 2007
8,329
Everywhere
Plympton91 said:
Nice informative post SSA.

I'd be interested in what extent good situational hitting, much like clutch hitting, just correlates to "good hitting." Are the any instances of mediocre hitters being especially good situational hitters? Or, if I looked at a list of the top situational hitters, would I just find it to be a list of the best overall hitters?
 
Good question.  I couldn't figure out a way to get career situational hitting stats on an aggregate basis in BRef (only season by season).  But I took a look at 2013 to see if it was only good hitters or mediocre hitters.  For each table, I took the top 15 hitters for the respective stat. The first chart is for the stat of advancing a runner on 3rd with less than two outs.  I controlled for batters with less than 100 PAs and an average or above number of opportunities (~19 opportunities):
 
[tablegrid= Advancing A Runner From 3rd With Less Than Outs - 2013 ]Player PA Opportunities Success Rate wOBA Michael Bourn* 575 20 85% 0.300 Salvador Perez 526 21 81% 0.329 Chase Utley* 531 29 76% 0.356 Edwin Encarnacion 621 20 75% 0.388 Mike Carp* 243 20 75% 0.382 Daniel Murphy* 697 27 74% 0.320 Mark Ellis 480 23 74% 0.300 Yoenis Cespedes 574 20 70% 0.318 A.J. Pierzynski* 529 30 70% 0.313 Allen Craig 563 35 69% 0.363 Donovan Solano 395 19 68% 0.277 Paul Goldschmidt 710 43 67% 0.404 Erick Aybar# 589 30 67% 0.299 Coco Crisp# 584 30 67% 0.339 Albert Pujols 443 30 67% 0.329 [/tablegrid] 
 
This list mostly and good hitters on it. Bourne is historically an above average hitter, but had a bad 2013.  Ellis, Aybar and Solano are all below average hitters.  Carp had a great wOBA last year, but this year has regressed so its hard to tell with him.  
 
For the stat for advancing a runner on second base with no outs. I controlled for batters with less than 100 PAs and an average or above number of opportunities (~14 opportunities):
 
[tablegrid= Advancing A Runner From 2nd With No Outs - 2013 ]Player PA Opportunities Success Rate wOBA DJ LeMahieu 434 20 85% 0.295 Anthony Rendon 394 13 85% 0.318 Leonys Martin* 508 15 80% 0.308 Omar Infante 476 15 80% 0.346 Nori Aoki* 674 13 77% 0.326 Wilson Ramos 303 13 77% 0.337 Mike Aviles 394 17 76% 0.284 Paul Konerko 520 16 75% 0.298 J.B. Shuck* 478 16 75% 0.308 Martin Prado 664 27 74% 0.328 Carlos Beltran# 600 19 74% 0.359 Garrett Jones* 440 19 74% 0.309 Jean Segura 623 22 73% 0.329 Jeff Keppinger 451 15 73% 0.266 Skip Schumaker* 356 15 73% 0.301 [/tablegrid] 
 
This stat had a lot more sub-standard hitters on it. In some ways this makes sense.  In this scenario, it is traditional to bunt the runner over with a less than average hitter at the plate.  If you have a good hitter in this scenario you let him swing away because he has a better chance at driving the runner in. But if Jeff Keppinger walks up to the plate in this situation, you are less likely to let him swing, and instead just have him bunt the runner over. Additionally, better hitters may walk in this situation too, as pitchers pitch around them with a base open to set up a double play opportunity. 
 
This wasn't really that scientific, as I have no clue how stable these numbers are from year to year for hitters, and the fact that his is just a one year snapshot.  I also didn't control for IBB or walks that take away true hitting opportunities.  If the pitcher is going to walk you, why swing and chance an out?
 

kieckeredinthehead

Member
SoSH Member
Jun 26, 2006
8,635
Down 4-1 in the 5th, 1 out, 1-2 count, successful hit and run with JBJ on first, Victorino at bat and Papi on deck.
 

Reverend

for king and country
Lifetime Member
SoSH Member
Jan 20, 2007
64,416
I was surprised to hear how well Sizemore was hitting with runners in scoring position during the broadcast the other day and went and looked it up. What I saw sorta threw me for a loop because it goes so far against the conventional wisdom of the fans--I think this is why we keep stats in baseball. Anyway, I thought it was worth bringing up some of the numbers to think about.
 
Note, of course, that in no way do I think this represents the "true talent" level of players involved; it's just a record of what has happened. It also doesn't account for who's been slumping when, but a big part of the point here such that there is one is how slumps can color our perceptions in relation to the overall picture.
 
[tablegrid= 2014 Red Sox Htting w/ RiSP: Sorted by OPS ]Regulars AB R H 2B HR RBI BB SO AVG OBP SLG OPS▼  Gomes, J 26 9 7 1 2 15 5 10 .269 .382 .538 .921  Sizemore, G 29 9 9 3 1 12 5 4 .310 .400 .517 .917  Bradley Jr., J 35 17 11 5 0 12 4 10 .314 .385 .457 .842  Ortiz, D 34 12 8 1 1 13 11 8 .235 .413 .353 .766  Pierzynski, A 34 8 9 2 1 17 2 3 .265 .325 .412 .737  Pedroia, D 35 25 9 1 1 12 3 3 .257 .316 .371 .687  Middlebrooks, W 18 7 5 1 0 6 2 6 .278 .350 .333 .683  Napoli, M 44 11 8 3 1 17 9 11 .182 .345 .318 .664  Victorino, S 14 8 4 1 0 9 0 3 .286 .294 .357 .651  Bogaerts, X 35 14 5 2 0 5 3 8 .143 .231 .200 .431                           Others AB R H 2B HR RBI BB SO AVG OBP SLG OPS▼  Holt, B 5 3 2 0 0 3 1 1 .400 .429 .400 .829  Herrera, J 8 6 3 0 0 4 1 2 .375 .444 .375 .819  Ross, D 12 1 3 1 0 2 0 3 .250 .250 .333 .583  Carp, M 19 5 3 0 0 3 3 7 .158 .273 .158 .431  Nava, D 11 4 1 0 0 1 3 3 .091 .286 .091 .377  Roberts, R 4 1 0 0 0 0 1 2 .000 .200 .000 .200 [/tablegrid] 
 

Reverend

for king and country
Lifetime Member
SoSH Member
Jan 20, 2007
64,416
The first thing that jumps out is how much of the actual run production has been done by some guys who are fairly maligned. Small sample and all, but that's what has happened. The second thing that jumps out to me anyway is how Ortiz and Napoli aren't getting pitches to hit--you can see that Ortiz's OBP dwarfs his SLG and Napoli's is significantly higher as well. Granted, Napoli's OBP w/RiSP is significantly lower than his regular one, but this seems pretty interesting fodder for the "Is lineup protection real?" debates, especially since from just watching the games it seems like these guys don't see crap to swing at with runners on.
 
In a general note, the Red Sox are hitting .240/.340/.355/.696 as team w/RiSP (8th in the AL by OPS), down from .278/.358/.436/.794 last year (2nd in the AL to Detroit's .282/.362/.444/.806). This shows a marked decrease more in AVG even than in just OBP, but also a pretty significant power decrease even when you control for the reduction in average.
 

kieckeredinthehead

Member
SoSH Member
Jun 26, 2006
8,635
A failed bunt pop up from Ross with 2 on and 0 out, and a successful sacrifice by Holt that was followed by a K by Ross and pop out by JBJ. 
 

kieckeredinthehead

Member
SoSH Member
Jun 26, 2006
8,635
Tie game 0-0, top 9 against the Rays, no outs. AJP on 1st, Victorino at bat. Sacrifice bunt attempt, AJP out at 2nd.
 

Snodgrass'Muff

oppresses WARmongers
SoSH Member
Mar 11, 2008
27,644
Roanoke, VA
To be fair, it wasn't a bad bunt.  It was just an awful decision to try it which was compounded by not pinch running for Pierzynski.  More of an issue with managing than situational hitting.
 

kieckeredinthehead

Member
SoSH Member
Jun 26, 2006
8,635
Tie game vs. CLE, bottom 4, 0-0 count. Nava at first, AJP at bat. JF calls for hit-and-run, AJP swings through, Nava caught stealing. 
 

Reverend

for king and country
Lifetime Member
SoSH Member
Jan 20, 2007
64,416
kieckeredinthehead said:
Tie game vs. CLE, bottom 4, 0-0 count. Nava at first, AJP at bat. JF calls for hit-and-run, AJP swings through, Nava caught stealing. 
 
Breaking pitch was way outside too--as close to a pitchout as you can get while not throwing an actual pitchout.
 
As E5 pointed out in the gamethread, Remy was talking about this as a time when Farrell often calls the hit and run, so it was by definition predictable.
 

soxhop411

news aggravator
SoSH Member
Dec 4, 2009
46,450
The Red Sox are currently 4 for their last 48 with RISP....
 
Thats .083.... .083
 

Van Everyman

Member
SoSH Member
Apr 30, 2009
27,085
Newton
Rudy Pemberton said:
I don't know what Victor Rodrigue does, but I'm surprised they haven't fired him and made someone a fall guy. Nearly every player is dramatically underperforming expectations. Doesn't someone usually lose their job over that? Perhaps a new voice is needed.
Probably doesn't help that their, uh, hitting coach is in the hospital.
 

DanoooME

above replacement level
SoSH Member
Mar 16, 2008
19,881
Henderson, NV
Boston is 7th in MLB in most games with 2 runs scored or less.  Ahead of them:
 
39 - San Diego
32- Tampa Bay
29 - Pittsburgh
28 - Atlanta, Texas, Houston
 

nvalvo

Member
SoSH Member
Jul 16, 2005
21,670
Rogers Park
Van Everyman said:
Probably doesn't help that their, uh, hitting coach is in the hospital.
 
Didn't the *really* bad stretch of offense basically coincide with that?
 
I checked: 4.0 R/G before Colbrunn's medical leave, 3.1 R/G since. .328 OBP before, .301 since. Hmm. 
 

Lose Remerswaal

Experiencing Furry Panic
Lifetime Member
SoSH Member
Is it just my faulty memory, or did David Ortiz used to (7-8 years ago?) occasionally bunt the ball towards third to defeat the shift, especially in bases empty situations when the team needed to score a few runs?  I seem to recall him doing that 5 or 6 times, and teams even adjusting the shift in response to that action by him.
 
Is there any reason he can't do that again (assuming he actually did that before)?  Any reason any of the players who get severely shifted can't learn how to do that?
 

OttoC

Member
SoSH Member
Dec 2, 2003
7,353
Here is a list of Ortiz's bunts while with the Red Sox. As can be see, he has only one sacrifice bunt.
 
Event = 20 is a single, Event = 2 is a generic out. Event = 19 is a Fielder's Choice. The final number at the end of gameID indicates whether it was game 1 or 2 of a double header or a single game (0).  Data from Retrosheet Event Files.
 
[tablegrid= Ortiz's bunting ]gameID event hit_value SH_flag ANA200508210 20 1 F BOS200509280 2 0 F TOR200604230 20 1 F BOS200607190 20 1 F TBA200608050 20 1 F TOR200609240 2 0 F OAK200706070 19 0 F BOS200809100 2 0 T CHA201009290 2 0 F BOS201010030 20 1 F BOS201205150 20 1 F TOR201308140 2 0 F [/tablegrid] 
 

Lose Remerswaal

Experiencing Furry Panic
Lifetime Member
SoSH Member
I think what that chart says is he had 4 bunt hits in 2005/6, 1 more in 2010 and 1 more in 2012, right?
 
If he did it then, why can't he do it now?  Looks like he is at worst 6 for 12 getting a single when he bunts, but take away the sacrifice he's at least 6 for 11.  And just him threatening to bunt is going to make infields play him more honestly.
 
Would have liked to have seen that last night instead of another sharp ground out to a 2B playing short RF when DO turns towards the Dugout after 60 feet of basepath
 

OttoC

Member
SoSH Member
Dec 2, 2003
7,353
I've often wondered why he hasn't bunted more often (and not just him) to try to break up the shift? But to explain gameID fuller, it is LOCyyyymmddg, where LOC is where the game was played, then year, month, day, game (0/1/2). I thought SH_flag was evident (T/F). He only had one bunt, a sacrifice, while he was with Minnesota but I didn't bother recording that.
 

Lose Remerswaal

Experiencing Furry Panic
Lifetime Member
SoSH Member
OttoC said:
I've often wondered why he hasn't bunted more often (and not just him) to try to break up the shift? But to explain gameID fuller, it is LOCyyyymmddg, where LOC is where the game was played, then year, month, day, game (0/1/2). I thought SH_flag was evident (T/F). He only had one bunt, a sacrifice, while he was with Minnesota but I didn't bother recording that.
 
Now that's what I'm talking about.  The defense zigs, you zag.  A few bunts against a shift to get some baserunners on and you won't see those extreme shifts anymore.
 
You talk to your people, I'll talk to mine. Let's get this done.