The Game Ball Thread: Wk. 16 vs Jets

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Ho, Ho, Ho, Game Balls for Everyone!

What a beat down. Extra balls to the coaches for keeping everyone focused.

Honorary goat to Bowles for kicking that field goal.
 

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Honorary game ball to Coach Todd Bowles for that timeout toward the end of the first half, turning what was going to be the pats running out the clock to an FU drive.
 

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As exemplary as they were, the offense really wasn't the standout unit to me today. The defense simply didn't put a foot wrong.

Butler
Rowe
Sheard
Van Noy

Edelman did have a great game though.
 

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Since this was never in doubt, how about we send the game ball to Jamie Collins, to mark the Browns' win today?
 

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LG gets a Christmas Present from Tom

Best as I can tell, the autograph reads, "LG -- Brothers for Life!"

Along with all the names listed above, Long seemed pretty disruptive during the first quarter today.

Edit: And what the hell, a game ball to Cyrus Jones in the hopes he won't lose it right away -- he did manage to hang on to a punt return.
 
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assuming the Ravens Cowboys or Broncos don't get a shutout, the Pats defense is now 2 points per game better than anyone elses.

Never thought I'd say that.
 

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Just wanted to echo the Butler game ball. Hard to imagine how a defensive player could do more than he did today.
 

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That throw to White was insane. He knew right off the break that White was going to outrun him and threw a perfect pass with perfect timing.

Unreal.
 

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Just wanted to echo the Butler game ball. Hard to imagine how a defensive player could do more than he did today.
His stats were great and he made all the plays, but in truth, none of his 3 TOs was very difficult. Rowe's play was outstanding. Butler was in the right place all the time which is also important, but the balls came to him.
 

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His stats were great and he made all the plays, but in truth, none of his 3 TOs was very difficult. Rowe's play was outstanding. Butler was in the right place all the time which is also important, but the balls came to him.
I'd say in order of difficulty the Rowe pick was the hardest, though the first Butler pick wasn't that far behind, he had to kind of turn back and bat it to himself while running full speed. The 2nd pick and the fumble recovery were pretty straightforward.
 

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Just wanted to echo the Butler game ball. Hard to imagine how a defensive player could do more than he did today.
In addition to his great day, I saw his Papa John's commercial with Antonio Brown today. Good for him.
 

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Butler reminds me of Bruschi - It doesn't always make sense, but the ball just seems to find him. They have such a great situation with him moving forward, too. He has another 4-5 good-great seasons left, hopefully all with the Pats, and I don't think he's hit his peak yet. What a story he is.

Rowe is another amazing situation moving forward, making about 800k and a million the next two season, respectively. Van Noy is dirt cheap next year, too. Belichick has built a young team full of favorable contracts.
 
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Butler - AFC Defensive Player of the Week? Probably, no?
Brady - loved that circle scramble deal
Edelman - dependelman
Lengel - what a feel good story
Mitchell - just a couple receptions, but his hands are great and he gets open
Injury bug - please please PLEASE keep steering clear

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As an aside, Ghost's kicking is back to normal. It's quite noticeable that the ball isn't hooking or drifting the way it was earlier in the year. I wonder what if anything changed.
 

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That throw to White was insane. He knew right off the break that White was going to outrun him and threw a perfect pass with perfect timing.

Unreal.
The one White dropped was even better, on the TD White had to slow down just a smidge(not saying it wasn't a great throw, I'm really picking nits), the other one was absolutely perfectly on stride to his outstretched hands.
 

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Butler reminds me of Bruschi - It doesn't always make sense, but the ball just seems to find him. They have such a great situation with him moving forward, too. He has another 4-5 good-great seasons left, hopefully all with the Pats, and I don't think he's hit his peak yet. What a story he is.
It's crazy. I remember thinking two years ago that the pick would destroy him. I was imagining a 45 year old guy signing autographs in a Ramada lobby, "the pick, Malcolm Butler." I was grateful he made that play, but did not think it really possible for an undrafted guy to come out of nowhere, make the most dramatic play in football history, and then just go back to the grindstone and put in the work to make himself an NFL regular, let alone an elite player. He's a special fucker. He's why I watch sports.
 

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My local CBS affiliate switched away from the Patriots game once it became a blowout, and FO hasn't updated their snap counts yet.

How long did they keep Brady in? I see that JG had two attempts - was it just one drive or did he hand off a bunch as well? Thanks.
 

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My local CBS affiliate switched away from the Patriots game once it became a blowout, and FO hasn't updated their snap counts yet.

How long did they keep Brady in? I see that JG had two attempts - was it just one drive or did he hand off a bunch as well? Thanks.
Jimmy played the entire 4th quarter, maybe a few snaps in the 3rd.
 

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My local CBS affiliate switched away from the Patriots game once it became a blowout, and FO hasn't updated their snap counts yet.

How long did they keep Brady in? I see that JG had two attempts - was it just one drive or did he hand off a bunch as well l? Thanks.
Brady played through most of the third quarter and Garoppolo had 15 snaps.

Mike Reiss over at Espn.com/boston updated the snap counts this morning. I don't want to cut-and-paste a long block of text, but if you shoot over there you can check it out.
 

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Jimmy played the entire 4th quarter, maybe a few snaps in the 3rd.
Brady played through most of the third quarter and Garoppolo had 15 snaps.

Mike Reiss over at Espn.com/boston updated the snap counts this morning. I don't want to cut-and-paste a long block of text, but if you shoot over there you can check it out.
Thanks, both. Indeed, I do remember Reiss doing snap counts and should have thought to check there but I'm still in holiday over-eating food coma!
 

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As an aside, Ghost's kicking is back to normal. It's quite noticeable that the ball isn't hooking or drifting the way it was earlier in the year. I wonder what if anything changed.
I think he's kicking it into the end zone more often on kickoffs instead of trying to kick it to the 2. I suspect that in the past he used to boom it through the end zone all the time, and the switch to taking a little something off on kickoffs this year messed with his mechanics a bit. I noticed he was booming it deep more often and he came out of his slump right around the same time.
 

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A season ticket holder whom I know tells me that Ghost was told not to bother with short kickoffs any more, just boom them, and that's what led to his resurrection. Take it with a grain of salt.
 

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Maybe he could just set his tee up at the 20 instead of at the 35, and continue booming them.

Effective for minimizing average drive start position, and comes with a bonus of intimidation. Sort of like the New Zealand All Blacks dancing the Haka.
 

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A season ticket holder whom I know tells me that Ghost was told not to bother with short kickoffs any more, just boom them, and that's what led to his resurrection. Take it with a grain of salt.
Didn't he drop several at the 1 against the Jets?
 

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At least two that I noticed. That's why I said to take it with a grain of salt. Maybe not having to worry about it loosened him up, maybe the information is just plain wrong. It was reported to me as gospel by a semi-reliable source.
 

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Maybe he could just set his tee up at the 20 instead of at the 35, and continue booming them.

Effective for minimizing average drive start position, and comes with a bonus of intimidation. Sort of like the New Zealand All Blacks dancing the Haka.
If you want to set up the tee at the 20, you could have a glorious Busby Berkeley-style synchronized team twerk after a TD and take the 15 yard penalty for excessive celebration. Nothing exceeds like excess.
 

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As to the Ghost discussion, it's seems to me that the majority of his misses have been wide right and he is now lining up on the left hash for extra points. Not so much that he's cured it yet but more adjusted, like a pitcher moving to one side of the rubber. I fully admit I haven't followed closely on that but I've defensively noticed on the extra points because it struck me as odd to be off center.
 

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I doubt it, this is the NFL. They have bizarre rules for everything. I doubt you would want to though. The advantage of kicking to the 1-2 from the 35 is that the coverage team can get down there before they get past the 25 fairly often. I doubt they can do that consistently if they have another 15 yards to run.
 

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As to the Ghost discussion, it's seems to me that the majority of his misses have been wide right and he is now lining up on the left hash for extra points. Not so much that he's cured it yet but more adjusted, like a pitcher moving to one side of the rubber. I fully admit I haven't followed closely on that but I've defensively noticed on the extra points because it struck me as odd to be off center.
I'm relying on memory, which is an uncertain bet, but I recall his kicks going more or less down the middle, with little or no drifting. Previously, the kicks seemed to wander erratically, more to the right than the left perhaps.

The notion that he screwed up his mechanics intuitively sounds correct.
 

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I'm relying on memory, which is an uncertain bet, but I recall his kicks going more or less down the middle, with little or no drifting. Previously, the kicks seemed to wander erratically, more to the right than the left perhaps.

The notion that he screwed up his mechanics intuitively sounds correct.
And it's possible he had some kind of injury, which is often the best explanation for all kinds of sports underperformance.

Didn't Vinatieri have some kind of back issue that affected his kicking in 2003?
 

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I doubt it, this is the NFL. They have bizarre rules for everything. I doubt you would want to though. The advantage of kicking to the 1-2 from the 35 is that the coverage team can get down there before they get past the 25 fairly often. I doubt they can do that consistently if they have another 15 yards to run.
If you can voluntarily put the tee behind the 35 and kick farther, surely there would still be nothing preventing the kick coverage team from lining up on the 35 at the same time.

Well, nothing sensible anyway. Which makes your "this is the NFL" apply all the more.