The Game Ball Thread: Wk 7 vs Jets
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This team had 18 players on offense and still found a way to win against the #1 defense in the NFL. O line did a much better job in 2nd half b
PaulinMyrBch said:
Pleasantly surprised that the secondary (that includes Coleman and Ryan playing starter minutes) wasn't shit-hell on fire.
Nink also had a hella game.
This was the Amendola that I insisted to people could be an upgrade over Welker. Great routes, sticky hands.
Jed Zeppelin said:
Brady's guru Alex Guerrero has been working with Amendola. His injury issues seem to be in the past.
I loved him as a Ram. Edelman was plan b that first year but became the focus when Amendola got hurt.Jed Zeppelin said:
amarshal2 said:
I hear ya, but to me 295 total passing yards with some garbage throws at the end do not qualify as "shit-hell on fire". Not good, but not "shit-hell on fire".
This never gets old. Ever since the Steelers in the 2000 playoffs this has been the losing team's narrative in close games. Great win, against a solid Jets team and coaching staff.SeoulSoxFan said:
I agree with amarshall. The secondary was shit today. Too many times receivers were wide open on 3rd down and long and converted. They have to get better. Defense did fine on 1st/2nd down but struggled mightily on passing downs. Not much of a pass rush either.
Patriots were down 4 offensive linemen, their best pass rusher, their pass catching weapon out of the backfield and dropped more passes in a single game than I can EVER remember and STILL WON. I dare say the Jets played just about as well as they could.
Game ball split to Danny and Brady. Huge catches when everyone was dropping the ball like a hot potato and big time throws from Brady in the 4th, when pretenders fold.
Game ball split to Danny and Brady. Huge catches when everyone was dropping the ball like a hot potato and big time throws from Brady in the 4th, when pretenders fold.
Agree with most of those mentioned: Brady, Amendola, Hightower, Nink. Chung was another guy who had a nice day in both pass D and run D. And Alan Branch had probably his best game as a Patriot, I thought.
While they didn't sack Fitzy many times, I thought that the D line did a good job of stuffing all of the gaps in the run game, and pushing the offensive linemen back towards the QB on passing downs, giving him almost no pocket to step up into (not that he really needed one). He made some pretty good throws over guys being driven back into him, to his credit.
Kenny F'ing Powers said:
Yup, had some trouble in his life. Would love to hang out with this guy.
I thought the refs got two big calls wrong.soxhop411 said:
1. The helmet to helmet on Edelman- should have been +15 for the Pats, though the holding would have offset.
2. The call on Marshall. I thought he was set enough. Jets should have gotten a last play.
In related news, Bowles played the end of the game unconventionally but it almost worked out for him. Losing the TO to the Mankins injury was a tough break. Letting the Pats run the clock while keeping the TOs, and kicking the long FG were reasonable decisions, though I think I'd prefer Belichick use the conventional strategy.
Ah, I also thought the refs should have called the pick play the Jets ran for a TD- the receiver didn't even pretend to run a route, he blocked the DB.
And the late hit on Butler (?) that the booth called out is also typically called in today's NFL.
Both these calls sometimes get missed, however.
And the late hit on Butler (?) that the booth called out is also typically called in today's NFL.
Both these calls sometimes get missed, however.
crystalline said:
Marshall was tackled about a yard in bounds on that play, so it pretty much evened out.
In regards to this play--and cross-posting from the game thread--blocking within a yard of the line of scrimmage is legal, and this was the point of first contact by Decker on that TD. It was a well-designed and executed play. He did the same thing on Nink on the Ivory TD.
Amendola almost single-handedly put the offense on his shoulders and brought the team back from the brink when LaFell couldn't be counted on. He made the routine grabs and he made the difficult grabs, showing up when the team needed him the most.
He doesn't deserve a game ball, but an honorable mention to Dobson. Made a couple nice grabs when called upon.
He doesn't deserve a game ball, but an honorable mention to Dobson. Made a couple nice grabs when called upon.
Does anyone remember the first down catch Dobson had on a 2nd and short? I didn't think he caught that but the Pats got to the line fast enough where it didn't really matter.
kenneycb said:
He bobbled it and then when he got control it hit the ground just a second after. I don't think it would have got overturned but breathed a sigh of relief when they got the next snap off without a challenge.
MuppetAsteriskTalk said:
I was far from an expert even before they redefined the rule twelve times but I think you just explained why it wasn't a catch.
I think the ball hit the ground, as well. I think a couple of us did mention it in the game thread, but luckily Bowles let it go. It was a pretty inexplicable day with the drops. I did think a number of LaFell's drops were poor throws from Brady. Either that or their timing was just off a bit. That Edelman drop was the biggest of all.
A good percentage - half? - of the "drops" would have been very difficult catches. The others were heart breakers.
ipol said:
Maybe I explained it bad. I thought he got control just before it hit the ground and maintained control after it hit the ground. But it was close and I only saw it once and sometimes on second look it can change a lot.
To paraphrase Mike Leach, real balance is spreading the ball around so they can't completely key in on one or two guys. 8 guys with catches is pretty good.SeoulSoxFan said:
I think in today's NFL this is what a good but not elite secondary looks like.RedOctober3829 said:
I wonder if this game is a little differnt if Sheard plays. Needed a little bit more pass rush today.dcmissle said:
The ultimate goal would have to probably go through (Cant believe im saying this) CIN and possibly GB. Can this secondary hold up against those skill players? That's the standard I'm judging against not the Jets with Fitzpatrick.( . ) ( . ) and (_!_) said:
Regarding LaFell, Reiss makes the point that this was literally his first game action since the Super Bowl. Not to give him a complete pass (he'd drop it, anyway), but you have to wonder why they went to him eight times when they could see the issues.
For his part, LaFell was not happy with his performance:
http://espn.go.com/blog/new-england-patriots/post/_/id/4786698/dropped-passes-galore-for-patriots-as-brandon-lafell-grades-himself-f
For his part, LaFell was not happy with his performance:
http://espn.go.com/blog/new-england-patriots/post/_/id/4786698/dropped-passes-galore-for-patriots-as-brandon-lafell-grades-himself-f