The Legend of Todd Walker

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"The last thing I want to do is die in Baltimore" - Todd Walker's instant legend comment.
 

Sprowl

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I have to watch the 0s feed. What was the context?
A spring 2003 flashback to when Nomar and Walker were playing the infield, converging on a pop fly in the middle of a heavy downpour. Right after the catch, an enormous thunderclap (presumably with accompanying lightning bolt) flashed right overhead.
 

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"The last thing I want to do is die in Baltimore" -pick your favorite Wire character
 

charlieoscar

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If Walker would just stop harping on "walking the lead-off batter."

Letting the first batter of the inning get on base in any manner is not a great idea but considering that in 2015-16, the lead-off batter walked 6.82% of the time while he reached by a single 15.27% of the time, I'd say that more runs probably score from the latter event.

Edit: Actually, a Bill James study says they score at the same rate.
 

Cesar Crespo

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At what point are those sample sizes big enough that .2% wouldn't just be random noise? Interesting a walk is more likely to score a run than a single. If it isn't just noise, I wonder the reason. Only thing I can come up with is the other hitters get to see at least 4 pitches.
 

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At what point are those sample sizes big enough that .2% wouldn't just be random noise? Interesting a walk is more likely to score a run than a single. If it isn't just noise, I wonder the reason. Only thing I can come up with is the other hitters get to see at least 4 pitches.
My thought is that a lead off walk might be more indicative of a pitcher about to be in trouble than a single....but yeah, there's probably no need to overthink 0.2% difference in probabilities.
 

shaggydog2000

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At what point are those sample sizes big enough that .2% wouldn't just be random noise? Interesting a walk is more likely to score a run than a single. If it isn't just noise, I wonder the reason. Only thing I can come up with is the other hitters get to see at least 4 pitches.
It's basically noise at that point. Look at the much less common HBP, and that is 40.9%. It sure looks like no matter how he gets there, a leadoff hitter that reaches first scores ~40% of the time. An error scores slightly more often, but there could be a multi-base error, right?

I would call this stupid saying succesfully debunked.
 

Average Reds

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At what point are those sample sizes big enough that .2% wouldn't just be random noise? Interesting a walk is more likely to score a run than a single. If it isn't just noise, I wonder the reason. Only thing I can come up with is the other hitters get to see at least 4 pitches.
Random error for a sample size of 82,600 is approx. .4, so noise.
 

DJnVa

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I always thought the whole "walking the lead-off batter" is that it's thought a pitcher has some control over walks, whereas a ball in play is more likely to turn into an out, so the pitcher is "at fault" for a walk, but not necessarily for a single.