another interpretation is that good QB decision making involves avoiding tight windows more often.
Ah. Didn't realize that sophomores weren't allowed to declare. That rule might cost him some coin.
Some rookies have promising first seasons and then aren’t able to continue that succcess?
He/she should have worded it like this: "Thank Buddha that the Pats found the GOAT in last year's draft, because this year's is slim pickings."
Getting replacement-level QB play doesn't get you anywhere no matter how inexpensive they are.
This is all true, but maybe a bit unfair when it comes to 4th quarter game-winning drives.
This is the thing that is too often missed in the Brady/Mac comparisons, or only just mentioned in passing. Mac's 2021 numbers compared with QBs in 2001 are astonishing - he'd be in the MVP discussion if he was putting up these numbers back then. If he keeps up his current pace he'd finish in 3rd in completions, 3rd in yards, 2nd in passer rating and 1st in completion percentage (just 9th in TD passes, but the Pats would have the second most points in the league). I get the urge to compare, but man, it's night and day.
Yea, Mac has been solid when it comes to clutch play this year. He had two opportunities for go ahead drives in the 4th against Miami down 17-13. He went 3/4, 37 yards and the Pats kicked a FG, then went 6/8, 32 yards and Harris fumbled. He had a chance against the Bucs, and went 3/5, 23 yards plus a 20 yard DPI, missed FG. Went 3/4, 37 yards to set up game winner vs. Houston, then had two more chances against Dallas. Down 20-13, he went 3/5 with 25 yards on a go ahead drive, then down 26-21 he went 1/1, 75 yards and a touchdown to take the lead again (obviously one of the blown leads was on his pick-6).
I get and agree with your overall point, but I think it is an important point when making this comparison to acknowledge that TB12 was not a rookie his first year playing. TB12 had a full year playing behind Bledsoe, two training camps, a full year in the QB room picking things up, studying film and plays, etc. That coupled with the difference/complexities in offenses between 2001 and 2021 make what Mac Jones is doing pretty impressive.
The fact I can never get over is that 2001 NFL MVP and ring conductor of the Greatest Show on Turf Kurt Warner threw 22 interceptions.
His INT% was 4.0. This year 2 starters are that high... Justin Fields (right at 4.0), Zach Wilson at 4.5%. Jameis went for 4.8% in his 30/30 season. Last player to hit 5% was Peyton's goodbye tour.
Also Brady turned out to be...the greatest player in NFL history. If Mac can be something like half of that, I think we're good.
Peyton in 2015 was maybe the worst QB to win a Super Bowl. Look at his game log:
He was significantly worse than Brock Osweiler with the same roster. He was TOAST
Man, that is heinous. Compare that to 2000 Dilfer, who is usually cited as the prime example of a crappy QB who won a SB on the back of an all-time defense:
Uh, it was just kind of apropos of nothing is all, seemed like odd phrasing. I didn't understand the comment in the context of the conversation.
They were both like 15-yard passes that looked like gave Peyton multiple hernias because of the effort he had to put in. One of them was on 3rd and long. Not a great thing.
I think that they just figured that Mac will get plenty of more chances and that this is like Brady's 10th or so last opportunity.
I've been thinking about doing this myself. Can you share where you got it from, assuming that it's being updated each week?
4 rookies in there. It’s easy to find three of them…takes a little searching to find the fourth
No problem. A poster on this forum has been updating the table weekly. There is an excel sheet at the bottom of his posts (with the actual values for each measure) that you can access as well.
A quick look agrees with your last observation. Thanks for sharing.
When Brady retires this year and moves into coaching after a year off and immediately takes the Lawrence led Jags to an improbable Super Bowl win, he'll get another Sportsman of the Year. Ho hum.
