The Nation's Tears: Volume II

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Blue Monkey

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Bowhemian

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I liked this guy:
I want a congressional inquiry into the officiating. Complete nonsense. They didn't even TRY to hide the fact that they were in the bag for NE.
Edit: from the steelers forum linked above
 

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I wouldn't want Pats fandom judged by our comments in a gamethread after a soul-crushing loss, so I won't judge Pittsburgh here either.
Our game threads suck after wins sometimes.

I'm not judging them, I'm laughing at them.
 

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I thought Rowe could have gotten called there.

I also thought there was an obvious hold on the long Steelers pass play down the sidelines (think it was Butler who was held) which sprung the receiver for an extra 40 yards. But didn't get any kind of useful replay. Anyone else see that?
 

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There is actually a lot more rational posters on there than I would have thought
Love the poster who said, "The goal line call was borderline. But if that was Gronk that would never have been overturned.". Of course, Gronk had a TD called back against KC on opening night.
 

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They are so uncreative in the Steelers forum. I mean c'mon, show something unique, explosive, or entertaining at a minimum.

Weak, weak sauce in Pittsburgh.
 

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He grabbed it at the very end as he was knocking the ball away. That is not getting called there in that situation, nor in almost any situation
The point is not whether it should have been called. The point is what I was responding to, that Steelers fans aren't whining when they say there was holding on the play.

If that was a Pitt d-back grabbing Amendola's jersey, our game thread would be filled with just as much "whining."

Probably more.
 
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Did they also discuss Bryant HOLDING GILMORE'S ARM throughout his otherwise spectacular one-handed TD reception? Do those posters want to give the Pats 4 points back?
 

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The caterwauling over the "catch rule" is idiotic because nobody has been able to coherently explain what is wrong with the rule or what the alternative should be.

We all know what people want the rule to be: "It looked like a catch."
 

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The caterwauling over the "catch rule" is idiotic because nobody has been able to coherently explain what is wrong with the rule or what the alternative should be.

We all know what people want the rule to be: "It looked like a catch."

The league has to do better with this rule. This was an obvious call and I saw it straight away but I hate this rule. Surviving the ground is bullshit. The dude had the ball with a knee down. I'm way happier to make the rule be a catch doesnt have to survive the ground and ground cannot cause a fumble. Will controversial things happen? Sure, but I hate this current rule.
 

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The league has to do better with this rule. This was an obvious call and I saw it straight away but I hate this rule. Surviving the ground is bullshit. The dude had the ball with a knee down. I'm way happier to make the rule be a catch doesnt have to survive the ground and ground cannot cause a fumble. Will controversial things happen? Sure, but I hate this current rule.
Why?
 

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The league has to do better with this rule. This was an obvious call and I saw it straight away but I hate this rule. Surviving the ground is bullshit. The dude had the ball with a knee down. I'm way happier to make the rule be a catch doesnt have to survive the ground and ground cannot cause a fumble. Will controversial things happen? Sure, but I hate this current rule.
This is fine at the goal line and would certainly lead to more TDs, but would it not lead to many many more fumbles? Turnovers can be fun when there's a fantastic catch or a well-timed hit, but the ball bouncing out of the hands of a receiver as he hits the ground? More often than not, it seems that the rulebook is bent towards allowing the offense to keep the ball on these types of bang-bang plays. The flip-side of this of course (and for the sake of being somewhat consistent, ie not changing the rules for the goal line) is that we get what happened in Pittsburgh.
 

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I was at the game yesterday and I will say that the salty salty tears of the Pittsburgh fans were delicious. We were in the end zone right above the final plays. From behind you could see that INT coming with all of the traffic, it seemed to happen in slow motion. I went with a buddy of mine who is a huge Steeler fan, and after the INT all he could do was stare at the field. For the most part the Pittsburgh fans were great yesterday, lots of friendly smack talk. The only issues I had were with the guys next to us in the first half. They were just pricks about everything and when you'd call out there BS they just grumbled fired a few F bombs under their breath.

The walk to the car was as satisfying as any moment I've had at a pro game, The feeling I got from a lot of people yesterday is that they're almost like the Red Sox pre 2004, they feel like it will all go wrong vs NE.
 

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In the simulacrum
This is fine at the goal line and would certainly lead to more TDs, but would it not lead to many many more fumbles? Turnovers can be fun when there's a fantastic catch or a well-timed hit, but the ball bouncing out of the hands of a receiver as he hits the ground? More often than not, it seems that the rulebook is bent towards allowing the offense to keep the ball on these types of bang-bang plays. The flip-side of this of course (and for the sake of being somewhat consistent, ie not changing the rules for the goal line) is that we get what happened in Pittsburgh.
For all the ways in which I have been on the 'it looks like a catch, it should be a catch' side of things with these various calls, this post probably gets to the most important reason to maintain the all-the-way-to-the-ground reasoning. Without it, the number of fumbles after a catch is going to rise pretty dramatically. Maybe that will make the game better, or more exciting, but it will almost certainly create a similar sense that games are swung on BS 'rules' that don't match up with the eye -- fumbles where the ground contact appears to make it clear that the receiver never really had it anyway, but now it would be a reception and fumble instead of an incomplete.
 

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For the second half of that video i was thinking that the pile of crushed potato chips on the floor in front of the guy was the best part.

But then I saw the dollop of dip high up on the wall, and we had a new number one.

Also, note how the woman in the corner disappeared partway through, likely headed for safety somewhere
 

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The league has to do better with this rule. This was an obvious call and I saw it straight away but I hate this rule. Surviving the ground is bullshit. The dude had the ball with a knee down. I'm way happier to make the rule be a catch doesnt have to survive the ground and ground cannot cause a fumble. Will controversial things happen? Sure, but I hate this current rule.
Agreed. Dial back to a few years ago, when the received needed to "make a football move". The control to the ground rule has brought on tons of calls that allow for most to not even know what is a catch anymore. More fumbles? Fine....For a player to catch the ball, turn, go down, and have the ball wiggle or come out due to stretching the arm, is just dumb. Stretching the arm and not down? Fumble. Too many delays/replays/challenges/inconsistencies....
 
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