Arizona is one I believe .. Dave Stewart has commented in the past on how he doesn't need new tangled stats to evaluate players. There are probably a few more. Jack Z. In Seatlle is another.shepard50 said:
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- Red Sox assistant GM Mike Hazen “is a stronger candidate than some realize” to be the team’s next general manager according to “rumors around the majors,” Peter Gammons writes in his latest entry on GammonsDaily.com. Hazen has been an assistant GM with the Sox since 2011 and he has interviewed for GM openings with the Padres and Dodgers in recent years.
I would be perfectly happy with this. It would ensure some continuity from the successful Theo/Ben FOs and keep a lot of the institutional knowledge on the kids in house.soxhop411 said:
I agree on Hazen. Him, O'Halloran, Tippett, and Sawdaye are all guys who would represent real brain drain if they ended up departing. This is not a broken front office. If you look at the 2011-2012 transition as a revised/new team starting from scratch with a 5-year plan, they just may have accomplished it. Look at this lineup - they may have nailed it, and almost accidentally won an early WS along the way. I subscribe to the notion that this recent change was more about getting Dombrowski as Henry's far and away #1 choice for a Lucchino, and Cherington being collateral damage due to Dombro being more of a directly baseball guy. As far as I'm concerned, there are some issues to be addressed around pro scouting and how prospects are introduced into the majors, but in general continuity is a plus.
But, if you favor an outside flavor, abs published on the .com a pitch for a dark horse candidate I haven't seen mentioned here, MLB's SVP of Baseball Operations Kim Ng:
http://sonsofsamhorn.com/baseball/teams/al-east/boston-red-sox/kim-ng-for-red-sox-gm/
Personally, the way I see the Sox new FO shaping up, I dunno if I see Ng as the best possible fit for GM. As President in a hypothetical where Dombroswki didn't take the job, she'd have my vote. But under a President with one foot firmly planted in baseball ops and one in business, and a 'traditional' development history, I want the GM to be the hard-core best cutting-edge analytics and development person I can find, and that hasn't been her primary focus in since working for the league office.
But, if you favor an outside flavor, abs published on the .com a pitch for a dark horse candidate I haven't seen mentioned here, MLB's SVP of Baseball Operations Kim Ng:
http://sonsofsamhorn.com/baseball/teams/al-east/boston-red-sox/kim-ng-for-red-sox-gm/
Personally, the way I see the Sox new FO shaping up, I dunno if I see Ng as the best possible fit for GM. As President in a hypothetical where Dombroswki didn't take the job, she'd have my vote. But under a President with one foot firmly planted in baseball ops and one in business, and a 'traditional' development history, I want the GM to be the hard-core best cutting-edge analytics and development person I can find, and that hasn't been her primary focus in since working for the league office.
JimBoSox9 said:
Wait, I thought the whole point of splitting Lucchino's job in two was that the guy-who-turned-out-to-be-Dombrowski would have both feet firmly planted in baseball ops, because Kennedy was taking care of the business side.
I certainly agree that we need a "hard-core best cutting edge analytics and development person" in a senior position under Dombrowski, whether or not it's the GM. But someone with Ng's resume--more of a business-of-baseball wonk and CBA wrangler--might be helpful too. I wonder if it really matters that much who has what title, as long as the team has complementary strengths and they're all listened to.
Biggs is big here...
#1... Highly likely .
#2...Iknow nothing.
# 3...An interesting choice...I'd buy him but long term friendship will out.
Dombrowski needs a factotum more than a traditional GM...
#1... Highly likely .
#2...Iknow nothing.
# 3...An interesting choice...I'd buy him but long term friendship will out.
Dombrowski needs a factotum more than a traditional GM...
I really think they need somebody who can appreciate both stats and scouting. Being able to speak Dombrowski's language would probably be much more effective than just dumping advanced metrics on him.
Bob Nightengale @BNightengale 37s37 seconds ago
Jerry Dipoto is expected to be the first candidate outside the Seattle organization to interview this week for the #Mariners GM position.
Jerry Dipoto is expected to be the first candidate outside the Seattle organization to interview this week for the #Mariners GM position.
Heyman: Watson, Hazen join Wren as candidates for Red Sox GM job
Brewers' Ray Montgomery also mentioned.
Brewers' Ray Montgomery also mentioned.
Savin Hillbilly said:
I believe Lucchino's job was divided into the roles DD has (baseball operations) and Sam Kennedy (business operations) with Kennedy's role focused on issues with marketing, the ballpark etc.
I think DD is loking exactly for someone like the "baseball wonk" that Kim Ng is to handle the paperwork that he chooses not to. I would hope he is smart and self-assured enough to hire someone well versed in analytics and in the "new school" of thinking to complement his own strengths and to groom as his successor. Because this role is a glorified Assistant GM role, i would find it hard to believe that anyone who is a current GM (or seriously being considered for open GM roles) such as DiPoto or Eppler would find this positon attractive. I would hope someone like Hazen might be attracted by the opportunity to be the GM-in-waiting with the opportunity to take the reins of a prestigous ball club in 3-6 years. What i woulnd't want to see is another old school/GM retread like Wren (who failed miserably in Atlanta amidst the rumors of cronyism).
From Kiley McDaniel's Fangraphs piece today:
Edit: typo
http://www.fangraphs.com/blogs/likely-scenarios-for-current-front-office-vacancies/
Edit: typo
Just to hear Kevin Towers mentioned as a consideration makes me shudder. Ugh. There has to be enough up and coming assistant GMs who'd fit better than KT here. Why would a veteran GM want this job anyway, it's DD's show.
Snoop Soxy Dogg said:
GM's on the outs like Wren and Towers might be interested in being part of the management group that "turns the Sox around" as a way to build their value and get hired for a job that has some real authority again, so I can see the appeal. That said, I want no part of Kevin "Throw at those fuckers" Towers or Wren or any other GM who has been fired recently. I'd much rather see them promote from within or go outside the box with Kim Ng.
Snoop Soxy Dogg said:
Every GM job comes with some serious issues - the only reason the jobs usually open up in the first place is because the previous guy made a mess of things. If a veteran GM is trying to hold out for the perfect opening, that doesn't really exist. There are far more candidates than positions. Same with manager jobs. I mean, how long has Dave Martinez been interviewing for something?
I'm not sure if it's a trend that will continue, but it does seem like there aren't as many 'traditional' GM jobs these days. With guys like Friedman, Beane, Epstein and Dombrowski all taking a more President/Executive role, it's a little unclear to me exactly what GMs do in those situations. Of the current GM openings, the Red Sox have Dombrowski, the Phillies have MacPhail, and the Angels have Moreno/Scioscia (not an executive, but maybe worse). Only the Mariners and the Brewers seem to be traditional GM-type positions. The Mariners job is probably the best one, since they've got some decent players - they just need their young pitching to develop and their old pitching to stay healthy, and figure out why so many of their good prospects disappoint. The Brewers job seems a lot tougher since that division is now crazy competitive and ownership doesn't look like they're going to spend serious money anytime soon. Braun is the obvious trade chip there, but he's probably too toxic to really get serious value for.
Dombrowski seems pretty widely respected throughout the league, so I imagine he creates a decent working environment. Plus the Red Sox are in about as good a position as a new GM is likely to find. Good young players, good farm system, an owner willing to spend - seems like it might be a way for a veteran GM to set themselves up for an executive position after winning a championship or two
Mike DiGiovanna @MikeDiGiovanna 10m10 minutes ago
Source: #Angels will interview #RedSox asst. GM Mike Hazen for GM job, probably today.
Source: #Angels will interview #RedSox asst. GM Mike Hazen for GM job, probably today.
Jeff Passan @JeffPassan 4s4 seconds ago
Sources: Red Sox starting official GM hiring process. Well-regarded Astros director of player development Quinton McCracken is interviewing.
Sources: Red Sox starting official GM hiring process. Well-regarded Astros director of player development Quinton McCracken is interviewing.
soxhop411 said:
Toolsy OF type
http://www.baseball-reference.com/players/m/mccraqu01.shtml
But, given the obvious success of Houston's development program what's not to like? (Unless he wants to draft a bunch of clones of himself of course)
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