The Poll: Is Wyc burning Brad- Should CBS be torched at season's end?

Should Brad be fired as Celtics HC?

  • Yes, no ifs and or buts

  • Yes, but only if they miss the post-season

  • Yes , and I'd fire Danny too

  • No

  • Other Yes-specify

  • Other No-specify

  • Other


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Auger34

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Shhh, you'll blow the "Spoelstra is a genius while Stevens is an amateur" narrative that this thread relies upon. If the Heat lose their series 4-0, it will be due to the talent discrepancy. If the Celtics lose this one in 5 or 6 or 7, it will be because Stevens was outcoached, despite the obviously flawed roster that was there for everyone to see all season.
Do you really think anyone would say that?

And I have to say that I think Brad has done a really
Good job this series. I still maintain that Spoelstra pretty thoroughly outcoached him in the playoffs last year and in their meeting this year
 

Jimbodandy

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Do you really think anyone would say that?

And I have to say that I think Brad has done a really
Good job this series. I still maintain that Spoelstra pretty thoroughly outcoached him in the playoffs last year and in their meeting this year
Stevens' team showed up at home down 0-2.
 

Tony C

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I dont see it.

My problem with this challenge is exactly the same issue I have with challenge mechanisms in all sports. The threshold to overturn is too high.

It seems like in each sport, if the replay shows the call more likely than not to be wrong...say 60-70%...they refuse to overturn it. I don't get that and never will.

Replay should be about getting every single call as right as can be. Instead it's about only overturning egregious errors and being perfectly fine with games being decided by more likely than not errors

I'm tired of seeing the technology wasted to benefit the officiating unions.
Isn't this a "don't let the perfect be the enemy of the good.." thing? Many egregious errors are overturned where previously they wouldn't have been. Some errors are overturned others aren't. And relatively few ticky-tack errors are overturned. That's far from perfect. But it's exponentially better than what pre-existed. Plenty of space to keep tinkering, but I also think the NBA is right to not make the goal perfection. If it was, frankly every game would be 4 hours in a sport where there is probably some level of uncalled foul on about 75% of plays. Important to not go too far down the path toward "getting every single call as right as can be."
 

TripleOT

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Miami swept, with almost the same rotation that got to the Finals last season. Is Spro Must Go the new slogan on South Beach.
 

bsj

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Isn't this a "don't let the perfect be the enemy of the good.." thing? Many egregious errors are overturned where previously they wouldn't have been. Some errors are overturned others aren't. And relatively few ticky-tack errors are overturned. That's far from perfect. But it's exponentially better than what pre-existed. Plenty of space to keep tinkering, but I also think the NBA is right to not make the goal perfection. If it was, frankly every game would be 4 hours in a sport where there is probably some level of uncalled foul on about 75% of plays. Important to not go too far down the path toward "getting every single call as right as can be."
i agree.Don’t let the perfect be the enemy of the good. If you are 75%sure a call is wrong, overturn it

it’s not going to make every game 4 hours of each team still gets 1 challenge and 51/49 is enough to overturn
 

mcpickl

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Do you really think anyone would say that?

And I have to say that I think Brad has done a really
Good job this series. I still maintain that Spoelstra pretty thoroughly outcoached him in the playoffs last year and in their meeting this year
You should read back through this thread.
 

Tony C

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i agree.Don’t let the perfect be the enemy of the good. If you are 75%sure a call is wrong, overturn it

it’s not going to make every game 4 hours of each team still gets 1 challenge and 51/49 is enough to overturn
Fair. "Preponderance of evidence" rather than "beyond a reasonable doubt" would seem to be a good tweak.
 

Cellar-Door

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Game result be damned.....Brad’s inability to properly utilize his challenges is maddening and could have cost us the game last night that would be 4 page thread by now if not for Tatum’s heroics. This continues to be an ongoing issue.

1. Didn’t challenge the goaltending call that would have been reversed.
2. Challenged the Smart foul when their was obvious lower body contact that can never be reversed.
3. Didn’t have challenge available (see #2) for Tatum foul that would have been overturned.
The goaltending one was simple... they didn't have time to see a replay before it was too late to challenge. As to the Smart one... I thought it was a good challenge, he got ball, the upside is big there, a jump ball vs. FTs, and the announcers thought he had a good shot, and that's the kind of play you should be challenging once you're that deep into the game, a foul on your best defender, that has the potential to be a 2 point and the ball swing.
As to 3... you can't save your challenges til the end every game in case the refs make a truly egregious call (also, replay has been a crap shoot, even clear calls don't get made correctly).

Overall I think there is no such thing as being good or bad at challenging at this point, given the quick window, lack of communication and just bad reffing in general it's 100% a crapshoot. I mean Nash made a "bad" challenge, a clear correct call... and he got rewarded because the refs are bad at this.