FWIW, this trade heavily favors the Twins according to the Baseball Trade Values site. But I get that Buxton is a volatile asset with somewhat depressed value right now.
The Red Sox ARE good. So now what?
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Damm what a idiotic trade that would be. Why would the Red Sox want to trade for Buxton when he is extremely injury prone and on the injured list right now? You know I like this pitcher on the Mets called DeGrom. Why don't we trade Dalbec Santana Richards and Workman for DeGrom? I mean my trade makes as much sense as your proposed trade. There's a reason a lot of talk show hosts have banned the discussion of fan purposed trades on their shows. Most of them are unrealistic
Why are you so high on Marquez? I'd be extremely wary of dealing for any Colorado pitchers. The home road splits make it hard to find any Colorado player's true talent level.
Anyone who proposes trades reminds me of the kids move themselves into the wellspring of a WEEI caller. As I've gotten older, I now finally understand what Dylan said when he sang, "I was so much older then; I'm younger than that now."
I hadn't seen that. Impressive. Do we know if momentum adds mph and if so, how much?
The video is on this page: Hernández nabs a speedy Brown | 07/02/2021 | Boston Red Sox (mlb.com)
Sure momentum adds velocity but I don't know how much. Also, from the video, it doesn't look like he got that much momentum into his throw but what do I know?
Here is an article about it. Fastest throw in Statcast era is Aaron Hicks at 105.5 mph. No study but consensus is outfielders generally average high 80s to low 90s.
https://baseballscouter.com/how-fast-do-mlb-outfielders-throw/
Trying to define the speed of a throw from the outfield opens a rather extensive kettle of fish. What do we mean by "speed of the throw?" There are a number of possibilities:
- speed of the ball relative to the air as it leaves the fielder's hand
- average speed of the ball relative to the air over its entire arched trajectory
- average speed based on the straight-line distance from the fielder to the catcher
Cardinals' pitcher-turned-outfielder Rich Ankiel was known for his strong arm. One of his throws, from a game in 2008, was estimated to travel at 123 mph relative to the ground when it left his hand (see article by Rhett Allain), or maybe 112 mph when it left his hand (article by me.)
This topic is a very good one for first-year physics classes
Sorry if I wasn't clear: I wasn't saying that knowing how many runs they needed to score was a new advantage, I was trying to say that with the new rule that's become a bigger advantage than it used to be. With a runner starting on second, it's a huge advantage to know whether you need to score just one run or multiple to win.
The only thing that changes there is that you're guaranteed to start the inning with a runner on second with no one out. The strategy in knowing how many runs you need doesn't change, it would be exactly the same in any other situation were you find yourself with a runner on second and no one out. The visiting team never knows what might be enough runs to win in extras, home team does. That's been a constant.
The only thing that changes there is that you're guaranteed to start the inning with a runner on second with no one out. The strategy in knowing how many runs you need doesn't change, it would be exactly the same in any other situation were you find yourself with a runner on second and no one out. The visiting team never knows what might be enough runs to win in extras, home team does. That's been a constant.
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I actually think the new rule advantages the visiting team, because: the home team is discouraged from intentionally walking the first batter in the top half an extra inning to create a force play at any base because it potentially puts on a second run scored (that is - they could do this, but risk putting on another run scored). Meanwhile, the visiting team, if they don't score in the top half of an extra inning and the score remains tied, can intentionally walk the first batter in the bottom half of an extra inning to create the force out with NO risk, since that potential run can't have any effect on the outcome of the game.
This is not a huge advantage, I know, but it is still an advantage. In this sense I don't like the new rule.
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I actually think the new rule advantages the visiting team, because: the home team is discouraged from intentionally walking the first batter in the top half an extra inning to create a force play at any base because it potentially puts on a second run scored (that is - they could do this, but risk putting on another run scored). Meanwhile, the visiting team, if they don't score in the top half of an extra inning and the score remains tied, can intentionally walk the first batter in the bottom half of an extra inning to create the force out with NO risk, since that potential run can't have any effect on the outcome of the game.
This is not a huge advantage, I know, but it is still an advantage. In this sense I don't like the new rule.
I’m high on Kike, so I’m thinking one of the better position player moves would be to land a good CF, which puts Hernandez back at his natural 2b position, maintains plenty of OF backup and keeps Marwan as the supersub he’s meant to be. If that makes sense, what CF options are there?
They could go with a four rather than a three player positional player bench and keep Arroyo ...
This is a recurring suggestion. Marwin has been dismal at the plate. But he has been great in the field at a variety of positions. There is a place for him on a championship contender.
His saving grace is he may be the backup 1B if we upgrade there and send Dalbec down.
Yeah Marwin slots in pretty nicely as the versatile defensive replacement guy you need for the playoffs. He certainly shouldn’t be starting any playoff games though - that should either be Arroyo, or Hernandez plays second and Duran/trade candidate is in center.
I don't think that trading for a centerfielder is, or should be on the radar. Between Kike and Duran, they should be fine there. And then Arroyo and Kike handle second, and Marwin plays everywhere.
I went looking for a 1B that’s left handed and decent defensively - so naturally went to check where Mitch Moreland ended up this year.
Turns out he just got out on the IL with the A’s for non-baseball reasons. I wonder, if whatever issue this is amounts only to a short leave, if Oakland would make him available for something, like a bunch of players crowding the 40 man roster or about to (parts like Chavis, Marcus Wilson, Hudson Potts, etc).
Moreland is old and on a 1 year deal, so he’s not a critical part of this years or the future of the A’s.
Turns out he just got out on the IL with the A’s for non-baseball reasons. I wonder, if whatever issue this is amounts only to a short leave, if Oakland would make him available for something, like a bunch of players crowding the 40 man roster or about to (parts like Chavis, Marcus Wilson, Hudson Potts, etc).
Moreland is old and on a 1 year deal, so he’s not a critical part of this years or the future of the A’s.
The Cubs have crashed and look like they may be heavy sellers again. Rizzo would be really ideal and probably wouldn’t break the bank.
I can live with Marwin as a 25th man jack of all trades as long as Arroyo takes Chavis's spot (and keeps hitting) and they find league average players to replace Dalbec and Santana.
The 6-9 spots with X out today were an abomination. That group cannot be played together.
And Chavis was brutal on defense today as well.
Regarding Moreland, the A's are not in sell mode and desperately need hitting, as today's game demonstrated. They're not trading him.
The 6-9 spots with X out today were an abomination. That group cannot be played together.
And Chavis was brutal on defense today as well.
Regarding Moreland, the A's are not in sell mode and desperately need hitting, as today's game demonstrated. They're not trading him.
In a vacuum yes, but he is on pace for roughly 450 PA which isn't normally the role of the last guy on the bench in the AL. Because he has to play so much, his presence in the lineup gives him far too many high leverage at bats by default. And he has been a rally killer to say the least (if I am fully understanding the statistic).
https://www.fangraphs.com/leaders.aspx?pos=all&stats=bat&lg=all&qual=200&type=3&season=2021&month=0&season1=2021&ind=0&team=0&rost=0&age=0&filter=&players=0&startdate=2021-01-01&enddate=2021-12-31&sort=11,a
WPA/LI is basically the WAR version of how much a player contributes to a win, weighted by the situations they are hitting in. The number isn't budging either way as a defensive replacement which is his ideal role. But as a pseudo regular it does.
His value is that he helps more regulars than average not die from exhaustion, because they need a 13 man pitching staff in this era and people have to play the field. They can do better there, though maybe finding that guy isn't as obvious as we think.
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Gonzalez by taking up 1 spot on the roster can fill in at 6 different positions and be serviceable, I think it's going to be difficult to find someone better than him that can do that. Ideally, he isn't the primary backup at any position but the 3rd string guy at almost every position.
W L ERA G GS SV IP H ER BB SO WHIP
| 0 | 0 | 1.29 | 7 | 0 | 0 | 7.0 | 8 | 1 | 5 | 2 | 1.86 |
OK, a bit of thinking out loud here, but here's what Brandon Workman's done in his last seven outings. A vast improvement over his brief stints with the Phillies and Cubs. SSS for sure, but though he's a base runner away from a 2.00 WHIP for that stretch IF he continues to pitch as he has his next 7 times out and gives up a few less base runners that number becomes more respectable. Does that and the fact that he's here on a minor league deal make him an attractive trading chip once again?
Funny you posted this right now. I just got around to reading the Sunday Glob baseball notes, which had the usual-for-this-time-of-year " deadline buyers and sellers" rundown. And while the column only speaks of the Sox in terms of their most glaring holes -- first base and an Andriese-type multi-inning pitcher -- it occurred to me that Bloom certinly seems like the type of GM that would move someone of actual (if not terribly large) value, maybe to sweeten a pot to get something slightly more than just the obvious target. And a move far enough in advance of the deadline gives the other team a chance to turn around and trade the chip it just received. At the same time, I'd be surprised if any GM sees Workman's results as indicative of some sort of resurgence. But regardless of who it is, I think were going to be surprised by the identity of at least one Sox player *going* in a deal. Bloom's not going to dismantle the team, but I still think he keeps an eye (or more than an eye) on the future at all times.
You're multi-inning type guy might be in the starting rotation ATM. About 6 weeks ago I wasn't completely convinced that most of our needs could be filled in house, but in those six weeks there have been some revelations. Sale seems to continue to impress as he works his way back. He and Houck will hopefully solidify the rotation with the odd man out filling the sixth starter/long relieve/bulk inning role.That hopefully provides three upgrades, so long Matt Andreiese. Arroyo likely replaces Chavis. That's most likely an upgrade. It would be pretty shocking not to see Duran hit the big leagues within the next month, so long Danny Santana. Kike and Arroyo platoon at second, with Hernandez gaining additional ABs while spelling guys in the OF. This leaves Chaim looking for an upgrade at first base and possibly a super sub but honestly I'm OK with Marwin being the guy at the END of the bench. His flexibility and ability to play good defense around the infield is going to be hard to improve upon. So with most of that handled in house, first base and perhaps a Yaksel upgrade are the only things that need to be filled from outside of the organisation and doing so should have minimal impact on the current roster and farm system while allowing the Sox to pursue a deep playoff run.
Edited to add that if the Franchy at first experiment has any legs, I'd still like to see another option brought in and Franchy takes Dalbec's slot on the big league roster.
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Especially with 26 man rosters. I wouldn't move on from Marwin when Danny Santana and Michael Chavis are on the roster. Plus Christian Arroyo isn't a sure thing.
Arroyo never has but he's played a bit of 3b. So maybe?
Too bad Pedro Castellanos isn't a little further along in his development because he'd be a dark horse option for 1b as well. He's still flying under the radar and people haven't really caught on to the power spike he's been on since the last 30 games of 2019. He was moved to LF to accommodate Casas. For whatever reason, he never hit for any in game power despite being a huge dude (6'3ish, 240ish). Kinda reminds me of Yandy Diaz in that way.
Last 30 of 2019: .295/.350/.580, .298 BAbip, 123 PA/112 AB, 8bb/21k, 8 HRs.
This year: .285/.363/.487, .303 BAbip, 179 PA/158 AB, 16bb/29k, 8 HR
Since June: .338/.413/.662, .333 BAbip, 80 PA/71 AB, 7bb/11k, 6 HR.
His minor league career is very interesting. I love outliers so he's always been a binky of mine. His first few seasons he barely walked or struck out and hit a bunch of singles. Much like Jarren Duran, I thought if he could add power to his game, he'd be a legit prospect. Dude had 7 HRs in his first 1209 PA/1109 AB. He has 16 in his last 270. He always had raw power and batting practice power, now it's showing up in games. I suggest looking at his career stats if anyone isn't familiar with him and are numbers and outlier nerds like myself. https://www.baseball-reference.com/register/player.fcgi?id=castel002ped Anyway, he might be someone we are talking about this time next year and maybe an option to bridge over to Casas if he takes a little longer to develop.
For fun, 91% postseason odds and 12% to win the WS.
https://www.fangraphs.com/standings/playoff-odds
https://www.fangraphs.com/standings/playoff-odds
Red Sox just opened a spot on the 40 man for a future roster move
View: https://twitter.com/BillKoch25/status/1412213334963798018
View: https://twitter.com/BillKoch25/status/1412213334963798018
I don't think the Bazardo move is an indication of anything imminent. It is more likely just a move of convenience. They needed to call up Bazardo and (briefly) have him on the 26-man roster before he could be placed on the 60-day IL, so they called him up in exchange for Chavis, then moved him to the IL to make room for Arroyo.
No pending move necessary.
Short of making an addition, an Arroyo/Dalbec combo with Arroyo being the main guy unless and until Bobby's plate discipline improves could work. If dude can play first (which is not a given)
Of course, this is all predicated on Duran being able to come up and be a solid contributor from the jump. There's a very real chance that he is not much of, if an improvement at all, over Dalbec at the plate. At least in the short term.
I mentioned up thread that I think Merrifield would be a huge get, but I think the price is going to be more than Chaim might be willing to deal. That said, he's a known commodity and IMO he would look great in Sox gear. Defensively he basically plays everywhere Kike does. Bringing in Merrifield doesn't seem to address the issue at 1B, BUT Whit and Kike both have some (though limited) experience at first. I wonder how willing either or both of them would be to don a first baseman's mitt on a more regular basis. I don't think KC would or should move him for anything less than what would be considered a haul, but if "getable" he's affordable and not UFA eligible until after the '23 season where he could be potentially flipped.
It seems unlikely to me that the Royals would be inclined to move Merrifield, who is one of their marquee players and signed to an incredibly team-friendly contract (he's making less than Kike and he's the better player). Like you say, it would take a haul and there's no chance that Bloom would pull the trigger.
Wonder if Joey Gallo is a fit for 1B. Rangers are last in the west and have the second worst record in the AL. Gallo has one more year of team control. He’s been an OF the last few years but has experience at 1B. He wouldn’t be cheap but cheaper than Whit Merrifield.
If first base would be in play for either player there would be plenty of ABs for Kike.
I largely agree. The only way I see it happening is if there were some sort of extension agreement in place, but would Merrifield be willing to do that?
I didn't realize how old he was. Unless he has a ridiculously successful season in '23 he's not likely to get a huge FA contract in this current climate. Maybe if you can find common ground that doesn't break the bank and affords Merrifield some security it's def worth discussing. Again I don't think it happens, I think the one position player brought in will be at first base.
Gallo would fit right in. He's struck out 105 times in 333 PA's. He's leading the American League in strike outs. You think Dalbec pisses you off? Just wait.
Also, he hasn't played 1st since 2018.
Not going to happen.
Gallo has an OPS of .879 and a wrc+ of 143. Dalbec isn’t anywhere near the player Gallo is. If you can get Gallo at a discount you make the deal and figure it out. If he can’t play first he can play center and move Hernandez to the infield.