Trade Deadline Thread (Tomorrow 4PM)

[Phragle]

Everyone ready for the most exciting trade deadline in sports? 
 
One team I hoped would sell - the Bears - are not interested.
 
https://twitter.com/BradBiggs/status/526794417357602816

 

[soxfan121]

Moving the deadline back to this spot was good; I think they should move it back to Week 10-12 to coincide with PUP/short-term IR. 
 
But the Patriots are one of the few teams who do make trades at the deadline, so something could still happen for our favorite team.

 

[E5 Yaz]

Trade activity? The Patriots tend to be active around the trade deadline, though they already made one move to acquire Akeem Ayers. Belichick offered his take on trades at this time of year. 

Belichick: “Every team is dealing with some type of injury situation -- they have lost players since the beginning of the year one way or another. You see each injury report come out every week, I mean, every team has guys that are questionable or doubtful or out or whatever, so there are fewer guys. When you have fewer guys, I'd say it is harder to trade them. You are less inclined to give away guys that you have at this time of year than maybe what you are at the beginning of the year when you can’t keep them all. If the opportunity is right and there is some conversation at this time of year about the circumstances or especially if the team says let's add depth or there’s just another reason they think their team can make a move. I would say those situation are a lot fewer than they are at the beginning of the year. I wouldn’t say it’s all that hectic right now. We are focused on getting ready for Denver.”
 
http://espn.go.com/blog/boston/new-england-patriots/post/_/id/4771037/belichick-praises-prep-of-browner-ayers

 

[Stitch01]

More help on the lines (likely/particularly defensive) help seems like the way to go if the Pats want to make a meaningful move.
 
Problem this year is there aren't that many teams out of it.  Jets (not a likely partner), Jags, Raiders, Titans, Bucs, Skins, Rams maybe Vikings sell?

 

[Phragle]

More help on the lines (likely/particularly defensive) help seems like the way to go if the Pats want to make a meaningful move.
 
Problem this year is there aren't that many teams out of it.  Jets (not a likely partner), Jags, Raiders, Titans, Bucs, Skins, Rams maybe Vikings sell?

 
I want Justin Tuck.

 

[Stitch01]

That was the exact name that popped out to me as well, to maybe state the obvious.

 

[Ed Hillel]

Tuck would be perfect, and he comes reasonably priced with no future guaranteed money. He's still a very good player, especially against the run. What's the right price, a 4th for Tuck and a 6th? That's only a little more than a round apart, given where they'll be drafting.

 

[Morgan's Magic Snowplow]

That was the exact name that popped out to me as well, to maybe state the obvious.

 
I was thinking this too and just went to take a look at some PFF numbers.  He's only got the 2 sacks this year but he's their #3 3-4 end in pass rush productivity and #6 3-4 end in run stop percentage.  He also has been playing fewer and fewer snaps each week (23 and 14 last two weeks) so its hard to imagine that he's a big part of the Raiders' plans.  I wouldn't be surprised if he's a likely cut for them in the offseason anyway as he's on a 2-year deal with the second non-guaranteed and he's got a roster bonus in March that they might not want to pay.
 
I don't know.  It looks like a pretty good fit to me.  He also could play DE in 3-4 or 4-3 looks, which is helpful.

 

[dcmissle]

Tuck would be perfect, and he comes reasonably priced with no future guaranteed money. He's still a very good player, especially against the run. What's the right price, a 4th for Tuck and a 6th? That's only a little more than a round apart, given where they'll be drafting.

This is not one to lose by trying to get the best deal; get him for a fair price and move on. For the Pats, he might be one of the few difference makers available by this time tomorrow.

 

[Ed Hillel]

This is not one to lose by trying to get the best deal; get him for a fair price and move on. For the Pats, he might be one of the few difference makers available by this time tomorrow.

 
That was my question. What's a fair price for a guy who's a rental, is losing snaps with his team, and will probably get cut in the offseason anyway? A fifth round pick or so seems fair to me. It actually seems a bit high, but I'd pay it given the needs. Gun to my head, I may go a 4th, but I'd need to see the better offer in front of me before I did so.

 

[Mugsy's Walk-Off Bunt]

I'd give up a 4th for Tuck, no sweat, but it really shouldn't take more than a 5th. What's a little annoying about BB is that he too often seems willing to say, "Fuck it, sure, we'll give you the Tampa 4th rounder instead of our own..."

Get it done, Bill. Throw in Dobson and make it a 6th.

 

[RedOctober3829]

@Edwerderespn: With #NFL trade deadline looming tomorrow, #Bucs have received inquiries about WR Vincent Jackson, RB Doug Martin, S Mark Barron.

 

[lambeau]

http://q.usatoday.com/2014/10/27/nfl-trade-deadline-marshawn-lynch-vincent-jackson-andre-johnson/
 
USA Today advises Andre Johnson to Patriots; Vincent Jackson to Seattle.

 

[Mugsy's Walk-Off Bunt]

I'd take Mark Barron - decent young safety. Hey Revis - come here a sec.

 

[Dan to Theo to Ben]

 
I want Justin Tuck.

Darren McFadden I'd be interested in, similar SEC north-south back with fumble history (including last week) like Ridley.  Only signed through end of this year, 4 million, not sure we have cap space.

 

[gmogmo]

Ian Rapoport ‏@RapSheet  9m9 minutes ago
Names to watch at trade deadline: #Titans WR Nate Washington, CIN TE Jermaine Gresham, #Raiders DL Justin Tuck, #Rams DL Kendall Langford
 
 
Agree with others that would love to see Tuck to NE

 

[ShaneTrot]

Are the Raiders going to trade anyone? Reggie Mckenzie needs to win games. He has had two drafts, cleaned out the bad cap situation, and spent money on free agents this off-season. He needs a few wins by the end of the season.

 

[Dogman]

I think so.  He clearly needs to continue to build through the draft and the only way to really do that and see dividends is with extra picks.  Tuck is either cut or gone after next year and the Raiders aren't winning anything in that time frame so it makes much more sense to have a ton of picks. 
 
Winning now would actually hurt them.

 

[ivanvamp]

I've wanted Justin Tuck for a while now. If he truly is available, for a 4th round pick or less, then I think e Patriots need to jump on that. He's still a good player and he would fill an enormous need.

And while I love the offense right now, if they could get Vincent Jackson too, wow.

So...

Add: Tuck, Jackson
Lose: 4th round pick in 2015, 3rd round pick in 2015, 5th round pick in 2016

Where do I sign?

DL - Ninkovich, Wilfork, Easley, Tuck

Offense - Jackson, LaFell, Gronk, Edelman, Vereen

 

[bakahump]

Is  Gresham really in play? I can see Cinnci trading him at this point.
 
Killer Gs at TE?
 
Wont happen with Wright seemingly coming around...but interesting to think about.

 

[Dan to Theo to Ben]

I think so.  He clearly needs to continue to build through the draft and the only way to really do that and see dividends is with extra picks.  Tuck is either cut or gone after next year and the Raiders aren't winning anything in that time frame so it makes much more sense to have a ton of picks. 
 
Winning now would actually hurt them.

if they're scared of another JaMarcus Russell, then they should just trade the 0-16 pick. Still better to have the earlier pick.

 

[Devizier]

My big concern with Tuck is that his loss of playing time is attributable to injury. If he's able to play, there's no reason why he wouldn't.

 

[FL4WL3SS]

I'd be stunned if the Patriots traded any more draft picks for 1 year rentals this season. It may happen, but I'll be pretty surprised.

 

[ShaneTrot]

I'd be stunned if the Patriots traded any more draft picks for 1 year rentals this season. It may happen, but I'll be pretty surprised.

So would I, a 4th round pick is valuable. Stork is the 2014 4th rounder, he is already a starter and cost-controlled for 4 years, that is tremendous value.

 

[ShaneTrot]

I think so.  He clearly needs to continue to build through the draft and the only way to really do that and see dividends is with extra picks.  Tuck is either cut or gone after next year and the Raiders aren't winning anything in that time frame so it makes much more sense to have a ton of picks. 
 
Winning now would actually hurt them.

You are assuming the Raiders have a plan and the owner is rational. All data points to the contrary. The owner is a loon and why did they sign all the old guys if they did not want to win in 2014? As of August 30th, they had the oldest roster in the league. They are old and bad, not a good combo. 

 

[Rook05]

Couple of points: Don't forget that Sealver Siliga is on IR-DTR. He could be back by week 12 and would be a massive boost in the run game.

As for the Raiders, the rookie wage scale keeps them from getting burned on another Jamarcus Russell, so I'd think trading out of that pick is much less likely than it was a few years ago.

 

[soxfan121]

 
Ian Rapoport ‏@RapSheet  9m9 minutes ago
Names to watch at trade deadline: #Titans WR Nate Washington, CIN TE Jermaine Gresham, #Raiders DL Justin Tuck, #Rams DL Kendall Langford
 
 
Agree with others that would love to see Tuck to NE
 

 
Best name on that list is Langford - if he's healthy. Better than Tuck (lower Q rating) and at a position of need (3 down DT with some pass rush ability and stout against the run).

 

[Section15Box113]

@Edwerderespn: With #NFL trade deadline looming tomorrow, #Bucs have received inquiries about WR Vincent Jackson, RB Doug Martin, S Mark Barron.

 
Very surprised to see Barron's name on this list.  Have to wonder, at what cost?  Wouldn't go crazy, but definitely intriguing to consider.
 
With Chung a one-year deal, do you consider it?  Or have faith in Harmon, etc.?

 

[Ed Hillel]

MikeReiss Mike Reiss
Asked Bill Belichick if he had sense a trade might be made today, and he responded by saying he's been watching Denver film all morning.

 
https://twitter.com/intent/user?screen_name=MikeReiss&original_referer=http://espn.go.com/blog/boston/new-england-patriots/post/_/id/4771095/will-pats-make-move-at-trade-deadline
 
Classic.

 

[Tyrone Biggums]

 
Very surprised to see Barron's name on this list.  Have to wonder, at what cost?  Wouldn't go crazy, but definitely intriguing to consider.
 
With Chung a one-year deal, do you consider it?  Or have faith in Harmon, etc.?

Wouldn't be stunned to see him moved. Would be stunned to see the Pats in on him. I'm with everyone else here McFadden/Tuck would be a nice get. Bill needs to improve the roster before 4PM

 

[Cellar-Door]

You are assuming the Raiders have a plan and the owner is rational. All data points to the contrary. The owner is a loon and why did they sign all the old guys if they did not want to win in 2014? As of August 30th, they had the oldest roster in the league. They are old and bad, not a good combo. 

Old guys take short contracts take a look at their cap next year. It is impressive how few guys have significant dead money if cut. They knew they would suck so they filled out the roster with filler.

 

[Ed Hillel]

I'd be stunned if the Patriots traded any more draft picks for 1 year rentals this season. It may happen, but I'll be pretty surprised.

 
All they've really given up so far is like 10-15 spots from the end of the 6th round to the beginning of the 7th for Ayers, right? I don't think any of those pre-season deals cost them anything, since none of them made the roster.

 

[nazz45]

 
Best name on that list is Langford - if he's healthy. Better than Tuck (lower Q rating) and at a position of need (3 down DT with some pass rush ability and stout against the run).

Yes, a rich man's version of Alan Branch. Maybe why nothing has happened with Branch yet as the Patriots explore the trade market.

 

[Mugsy's Walk-Off Bunt]

I don't know why we wouldn't be in on Mark Barron. Other than McCourty, our safety situation is Offerman level JUNK.

 

[Stitch01]

I think its been shockingly passable given that Chung is getting the bulk of the PT, but we'll see how the position holds up against Denver this week.

 

[soxhop411]

I do not think this will be an active trade deadline for teams

 

[BoSoxFink]

I do not think this will be an active trade deadline for teams

When is it ever in the NFL?

 

[Dan to Theo to Ben]

I do not think this will be an active trade deadline for teams

I don't know Arizona's cap situation, but they must be in GFIN mode for RB/TE

 

[TSC]

I do not think this will be an active trade deadline for teams

 
Gee. What makes you think that?

 

[soxhop411]

 
Gee. What makes you think that?

Nvm.

 

[Ed Hillel]

I think its been shockingly passable given that Chung is getting the bulk of the PT, but we'll see how the position holds up against Denver this week.

 
And Barron's been a complete bust for the most part as well. I thought he was a sure-fire stud out of college.

 

[Tyrone Biggums]

I do not think this will be an active trade deadline for teams

Correct me if I'm wrong but hasn't it been active for the last two years?

 

[Section15Box113]

 
And Barron's been a complete bust for the most part as well. I thought he was a sure-fire stud out of college.

I did too.  That's why his name jumped out.
 
Think I read somewhere that his struggles have been in coverage, but he's been decent (or better) in run support.  Anyone paying more attention to TB than I have been?
 
Wouldn't give up much, but for the right price could be interested to see what BB could do with him.

 

[Ed Hillel]

I did too.  That's why his name jumped out.
 
Think I read somewhere that his struggles have been in coverage, but he's been decent (or better) in run support.  Anyone paying more attention to TB than I have been?
 
Wouldn't give up much, but for the right price could be interested to see what BB could do with him.

 
Usual caveats and all, but PFF really likes Chung against the run (+5 on the season) and has Barron at -3.5. In Pass coverage, they are both decent around -1.. At least in terms of Chung, that seems to match the eye-test. As a Strong Safety, Chung is actually pretty good. I actually kind of hope he comes back for cheap in a supporting role for (HURRY UP AND GET HIM EXTENDED) McCourty.

 

[Mugsy's Walk-Off Bunt]

Good insights, thanks, sosh-ers. So...3:52 pm...not a sniff on any trades, even on Florio. Hm...

 

[E5 Yaz]

Good insights, thanks, sosh-ers. So...3:52 pm...not a sniff on any trades, even on Florio. Hm...

 
Not surprising. NFL deadline is traditionally the slowest of the major sports

 

[DJnVa]

So, are we or are we not getting Fitzgerald????

 

[RedOctober3829]

So, are we or are we not getting Fitzgerald????

I thought it was Andre Johnson.  I can't keep up around here.

 

[Corsi]

 

Adam Schefter ‏@AdamSchefter  5s6 seconds ago
Bucs finalized a trade of S Mark Barron to Rams, per source.
 

 

[Corsi]

 

Albert Breer ‏@AlbertBreer  now
Per source, the Bucs are keeping RB Doug Martin and WR Vincent Jackson.